Poland`s aid to Ukraine if Russia invades - part 10

Yes, you once mentioned some family in Volhyn but without any details.


Ironside commented on it appropriately which gave me a big shock - they were Soviet accomplishments. So, the Baltics and Ukraine also contributed. Ukraine had a huge industry for space projects.

Funny you prefer not to see it and you call Ukrainians UPA worshippers etc etc And praise Russians instead.

If not my moratorium on using names in the forum, you know how I would call you now and which animal I would use in the calling??? hahahaha buhahaha

Of course. Giving any closer personal details on a public forum is unreasonable.


Well, I would probably be less inclined to call them so if they didn't have all those monuments, stadiums and streets named after UPA criminals. I might be less tempted to believe they are UPA worshippers if there weren't all those busts, plaques and museums of Banderas and other Shukhevyches all over the place. Alas, there are.


What can I say? I'm a Slav, through and through :) If you call yourself Slavic, and you don't see the pure f*cking poetry of Russia, then I have very little hope for you, guys. Very little.


Just a sec... *goes looking for a mirror*

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Right. Sorry - I just wanted to check if I really look like I give a f*ck what you call me. I don't. :)

I will shoot myself the day bikers will have faggot or trans colors on their helmets.

Russians have Lenin monuments all over Russian and worship Stalin. Yet, you have a visible problem with people who don`t worship Russia, like cms or me.


I once saw it but it was an illusion and I managed to come back to reality. :):):) Individual Russians can be decent people like in every country are some, but on the whole it is a rotten country inhabited by mental slaves to their regimes. Sth that disgusts me very seriously.


Today. You had another opinion two or three weeks ago. :):):) Never mind.

Wearing an SS helmet is not about being politically incorrect. It's like wearing a t-shirt with "I'm a paedophile" written on it. It's just being a sickf*ck and displaying it publicly.

The incident I described took place more or less around 2010, and the guy was about 30, so the helmet certainly wasn't a trophy.

It's about being an annoying azhole and not one damn bit different than double SSing Russia here.

I wouldn't say "a problem". Just a curious incomprehension.


Exactly. And annoying azholes shouldn't be surprised if their arses get kicked by annoyed people.

It is a clear mental problem of yours coz previously you tried to "educate" maf on the same matter, namely his anti Russian attitude. :):):)

As far as I can remember it wasn't about anti-Russian attitude but about the use of dehumanising language, more suitable for Der Sturmer than for a decent little forum like PF.

Wrong! The language is a direct product of sb`s anti-something attitude.


Wrong! Stop dehumanising maf! Did he call for killing all Russians like Nazis called for about Jews??? No, he didn`t. Stop catching nastily at a razor, please. You have a mental problem with Russia`s critics.

Show me where and when you bashed Novi for his antiUkrainian remarks??? You never did.

Do you know what a perfect balance in nature means????? :):):)

And you have a mental problem with Russophiles, even if they are staunch anti-Putinists like me.


But I bashed him for his anti-Polish remarks. :)

Exactly!!!!

Now you know what perfect balance in nature means. Novi`s and your Russophilia is kept in check by maf and cms`s Russodisgust. While I am somewhere in the middle. :):):)


Yes, I remember but it is irrelvant in our current exchange. :):):)

Exactly!!! Telling us what happened to your ancestors in today`s Ukraine 80 years ago may reveal so much personal info on you that we will all know who you are. :):):):)

Absolutely! Those bikers would have joined in kicking that dudes a$$.

When supporters of the war (and/or putain) read that someone is a russophile but doesn't like the war/putin they don't care. They think you'll come around sooner or later and realize what a glorious undertaking it was.....

I don't want to give them any such illusions.... the people and society that have produced the war are crap on a stick and I want none of them within a hundred miles of me.

I never thought much of russia one way or the other before the full-scale invasion.... now I despise anything and everything russian and I'm not going to pretend otherwise.

You were a bit slow.I have despised everything about Russia and Russians since I was a small child, because I knew what they did to my father's family.

Russians are nothing but wild animals.

Hm... Why you so hateful to United States of fcuking America? Yes, just few years without wars in a last century, and none of that wars to protect their land. But crap on a stick...

My apologies for making a few corrections...
Other than that, I couldn't say it any better.


Every country has its skeletons - including yours. Eventually, for our own sake, we have to forgive and move on.

From the world's best news source:

'Take no NATO prisoners' - Medvedev
All Western troops in Ukraine will be treated as enemies, the former Russian president has said

...and a reader's comment:

Medvedev is absolutely right! I hope the people in the Kremlin are not knuckleheaded enough to go easy on US/NATO forces in Ukraine out of long-game political calculation. But if they are, it will be Donbass civilians and Russian soldiers who will paid for that silly policy with their lives.

Kill them all. They should be at home shooting migrants, not Russians.

In a rather telling and funny side to this war, President Joe Biden told Ukraine to stop hitting Russian oil refineries because it will drive oil prices up. Those oil prices drive gas prices up, and sleepy Joe is trying to make low gas prices an election issue for November. IF that doesnt tell you everything you need to know about sleepy Joe and how he sees the war, then your eyes are closed.

Also a news report out of Ukraine now saying that the US and Germany do not support Ukraine joining NATO. pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2024/04/5/7449949/ Someone may actually be using their brain for a change.

No surprise the Germans don't want Ukraine in NATO - their elites have been so penetrated by North Nigerian spies and oil money that they may as well just parrot Putler's views straight from an earpiece

That will be fixed - I'm not shocked by the Wirecard story, but it at least shows the Hermans are getting to grips with the problem

Certainly not during the war.

I dunno....Ukraine NOT in NATO hasn't stopped Putin from invading....even Ukraine giving up their nukes for peace, trusting the West, had been an error in hindsight.

There is a case to be made that Putin was deadset on invading from the beginning, NATO etc. only a useful scapegoat and excuse.

The West, especially Germany, did everything Putin asked for....Merkel stopping an Ukraine membership in NATO already back in 2008 to favour Putin....and it was no use, because NATO was never the real problem!

spiegel.de/international/europe/ukraine-how-merkel-prevented-ukraine-s-nato-membership-a-der-spiegel-reconstruction-a-c7f03472-2a21-4e4e-b905-8e45f1fad542

"Using their brain" would today mean, with all the hindsight, that NATO should stop to try favoring, pleasing Putin....

Oh je! :(


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NATO is said to be considering the possibility of including Ukraine in the defense alliance in exchange for territories ceded to Russia.

The Italian newspaper "La Repubblica" reports on the "hypothesis that was officially discussed at the last alliance summit in Brussels" .

The transaction would mean that Ukraine would give up the territories currently occupied by the Russians, but with the guarantee that the remaining "Western Ukraine" would immediately join NATO. According to the report, Kremlin ruler Vladimir Putin (71) was offered to keep Crimea and all the territories conquered in the last two years in return.

Historical parallel: According to journalists, this scenario is reminiscent of the situation after the Second World War, when Germany was divided into East and West....

Not gonna happen. Remember, this war is all about NATO from the Russian side and not about commiting genocide and subjugating the entirety of Ukraine *sarcasm.

....and such a deal would need to be sweetened alot for the Ukrainians! Meaning of course admittance into NATO and EU, and LOTSA aid- and support money from the West for years to come for the non-russian leftover.

And such a deal will probably need another leadership in Moscow....Putin just isn't trustworthy anymore for such a "land for peace" - treaty!

It's really not.... that's just something they say to gullible westerners.... I've yet to read a cultural insider (that is someone born in the USSR or russia with insider knowledge of russian culture) whether pro- or anti- putin that really thinks of NATO as a factor....

Former putin-stan Karlin even dismissed NATO as a reason for the war.

Cultural insiders all talk about the ideology of russian superiority or the need for russian empire or total nonsense like the 'triune nation'....

russian government figures are all like cheap tv psychics doing cold readings.... they throw a lot of bait into the air to see which has traction with the marks....

for western marks (like novi) NATO works and so they emphasize that with them.

russian state media (government controlled) barely talks about NATO...

That is going to happen anyway, particulary from the EU. Provided of course, some countries won't block it.... .

@mafketis


I know, hence the *sarcasm.

Na ja....not if "such countries" gain the majority in the EU

@Bratwurst Boy


They don't need one, in many cases a qualified minority is enough to veto such cases. Sometimes even one country is enough to obstruct further aid, as we have seen with Hungary.

Mayhaps I am too pessimistic, but I do wonder how long the solidarity with Ukraine would last after the war is over. Quite a lot of countries (if not all of them) that are currently receiving structural aid from the EU would suddenly be expected to not only refuse further payments, but make payments themselves.ike they say, "Beim Geld hört die Freundschaft auf" (Friendship stops with money).