Poland`s aid to Ukraine if Russia invades - part 10

@cms neuf
I dont adopt sh!t. Any defector giving up his protection and going to Barcelona is a fvcking idiot. And no Putin doesnt care about collateral damage because he knows every fvcking country in the world is lead by pu$$ies who wont send a kill team to take him out. All the bull$hit tough talk from Europe and the US is just that, bull$hit. Vlad just called all of us out on all of our leaders, and our leaders did nothing. The fvcked Ukraine into a proxy war, and left them with a leader who used to be a comedian and is now just a punch line for a bad joke.

All the leftists here refuse to even listen to what the west is saying and that there is no fvcking way Ukraine can push Russia out. It is over. And if Ukraine doesnt negotiate and Russia breaks through the lines, all of Ukraine could be lost this summer. What happens then? Negotiate for Vlad to just leave and allow Ukraine to exist? Some good jokes being told on PF.

That's when we really up the stakes and go all in; by calling russia North Congo.


They're not exclusively leftists, neocons like general hodges even worse, just people that need their two minutes of hate, combined with a sense of naivity about the situation on the ground in Ukraine as well as some misconceptions about history and russia weaknesses. .

At least the two minute hate people here have transferred their venom from Poland B to Russia, which is definitely a good thing.

I think you will struggle to find a post from me critical of Polska B as you call it - I don't think I've used that term myself for maybe 15 years.

One reason is because that's where I live. Where as you like to pontificate from your bedroom in New South Wales.

You seem to be fantasizing that PIS still have a stranglehold on those regions, which they don't. My own gmina has gone from being circa 70% PIS in 2015 to the low 40s now.

As for calling people naïve about Ukrainian chances, there is nothing more naïve them thinking that Putler is a person that you can negotiate with and trust. May be a settlement with North Nigeria is possible, but not as long as he is in power, and even after he's gone any settlement will need western peacekeepers and the dismantling of weapons

Very interesting interview by Sarah C.M. Paine. Professor of History and Strategy at the Naval War College....

She talks about WWII and the impending WWIII

Very fresh perspectives on russia, China and even WWII

some important takeaways:

putain's big mistake is he had no plan B (aka back down plan) and still doesn' thave one, all he can do is double down

russia has put Ukraine on 'death ground' (where people have no expectation of surviving a defeat).

russia is still stuck in a pre-industrial revoltuion view of political power as a zero-sum game and is not interested in prosperity or peace....

Lots more.

Long but you don't need to watch, just listen while doing other stuff

youtube.com/watch?v=YcVSgYz5SJ8

I wondered about that from the beginning....hence my conclusion that is a matter of the heart for him. Even leaders aren't safe from making irrational decisions, and they have lotsa more means to implement them! Especially dangerous in an autocracy without the "check and balances" available in a democracy....

In May 1945, Stalin didn't have Plan B, either.
In August 1945, Truman didn't have Plan B as well.

Losers have Plan B.


Please do not tell me that Ukraine is a democracy. Neither is the US, btw. Both are assholecracies. Our azhole is known as Biden.

News from russia on the ground. Wonder what's going on in Orsk?

Well Artur Rehi has the lodown:

tldr: russia happened, the money for the dam was mostly stolen and they just piled up a bunch of dirt rather than build a dam, now the kremlin is trying to ignore the problem or blame locals and the locals are reduced to begging (aka 'appealing' to putin to fix their problems).

The myth of the 'good tsar' (as primimtive and backward as it is, is till alive and going strong in provincial russia).

twitter.com/ArturRehi/status/1777401800628240887

The US gov stole 100B from the US taxpayers and gave it to Z. That's my problem, not a damn dam in Russia.

A thought occurred to me today.

I grew up hearing - "Russia has no allies", "Nobody wants anything Russia has to sell", and so on... and so forth.

In this war, a critical role was played by the Democratic People's Republic of Korea and the Islamic Republic of Iran. Now, increasingly, China is beginning to play a very important role as well.

Though I was not his fan, for a long period of time, this makes me somewhat appreciate Putin's genius more. When everybody on the Russian liberal opposition side was cracking wise jokes about Putin and his little fan club of dictators, the common sense proposition seemed to be that we should be friends with rich and pluralistic societies. However, Putin's actions did in fact prepare us for the type of existential war we are in now.

Where are Ukraine's friends? What are they saying now?

Meanwhile, Russia lost its currency reserves, was disconnected from the international financial system, and is burdened by the heaviest sanctions regime in world history - yet we still carry on. In many ways, thanks to these "friends", that did not abandon us.

Ukraine gets all the help in the world, isn't sanctioned by anyone, and yet seems utterly f*cked.

Putin, while not always the most clear-thinking person, had definitely correctly read the map of the world. It's astounding, also, how Iran and Korea are willing to recognize their share of the burden and repay past kindness. For a long time after this war, we will owe these people.

Just think about it - Ukraine had the pick of the litter with its friends, and now they are all abandoning them one by one. Putin seemed to relish collecting different freaks, and now they are actually standing by our side through thick and thin. Some lesson about life is hiding in there, somewhere.

He won't rule very much longer....what then?

Sh1tholes all of them....

China is still run by the same party that caused the worst famine in human history and is running its economy into the ground because it wants to maintain total control over citizens' lives

North Korea starved about 10% of its population to death in the 1990s and things are not much better now

In Iran police beat young women to death if they show their hair in public.....

If all your friends seem like sewer denizens... then.... maybe your country is a sh1thole too....

A problem for another day. In the meantime, this is what the international press writes about:

Interfax quoted Lavrov as saying relations between Russia and China had reached an "unprecedented level" and that President Vladimir Putin's re-election in March offered "additional guarantees" for the strengthening of ties.

Wang assured his counterpart that China would "continue to support Russia's development and revitalisation under the leadership of President Putin", the Chinese foreign ministry said."

Source: ft.com/content/272e71e6-a355-4099-9640-3c7694316722

This was a big middle finger to America, by China. Janet Yellen left just a few days before Lavrov arrived, and sternly warned China of "significant consequences" if it continued to aid in rebuilding the Russian industrial base.

China probably didn't like to be spoken to in this way. It probably also didn't like that while being asked for favors by Janet Yellen, with its other hand the West maneuvered Japan to join the AUKUS alliance and further prodded the Philippines into standing firm on its territorial claims.

Finally, Xi likes Putin and models his rule on Putin's. Putin just got reelected. You could say, in a way, that the Russian people have confirmed in Xi's eyes the reasons for why it's necessary to align with Russia.

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I ain't going anywhere.

When this war is over, the truly fun times on PF will begin.

We both will celebrate. You will celebrate your country's victory. I will celebrate NATO's loss.

Did I say I hate NATO? A bunch of parasites riding on my taxpaying back with ZERO benefits to me and the rest of Americans.

How we got conned into this "mutual defense" crap is still a mystery...Mutual my ass...I remember how the French wouldn't let the US fly over France on the way to Africa.


You are still not Americanized enough...

I ain't going nowhere...Double negatives sound so cool and manly...

North Nigeria has lots of other friends that you haven't even mentioned

Belarus, Algeria, Syria, Eritrea....the list is endless, and they all have two things in common,

The regime all live in splendor surrounded by yesmen

you can be killed for questioning the regime.

True! It will be glorious! :)

In Canada, they will seize your bank account for questioning the regime and throw a book at you if you use the wrong pronoun. Or at least will get you fired. See Jordan Peterson.

You love that! It's what you want to do...... what a narcissistic weirdo..... loves russia for crushing dissent and despises Canada for the same....

hypocrisy much?

In North Nigeria you get killed for opposing the regime

Not fired, book thrown at you, bank account stopped

You get killed, by Putler.

One day he will kill some people at the troll farm, just because.

@cms neuf

A periodic culling of the herd, leads to an overall healthier constitution for the whole.

russian priorities....

near Smolensk a bridge had been listed as being in 'emergency' condition for 8 years.... guess what was done....

if you said 'nothing' then you win! (unlike the poor idiots who were on the bridge when it collapsed this morning)

twitter.com/MyLordBebo/status/1777389125030539408


russian 'culture' degrades human beings to the level of livestock....

The evening ceases to be languid.

A completely unexpected turn in the investigation of the terrorist attack at the Crocus City Hall. The Investigative Committee of the Russian Federation has opened a criminal case (t.me/sledcom_press/12642) on the financing of terrorism by officials from the United States and NATO countries.According to the investigators, money for terrorist attacks in Russia and beyond came through commercial organizations, including the Ukrainian oil and gas company Burisma Holdings. The aim was to eliminate prominent political and public figures, as well as to cause economic damage.

For those not in the know, Burisma Holdings is owned by the former Minister of Ecology and Natural Resources of Ukraine during the Yanukovych era. But Zlochevsky and his company became famous for having hired Hunter Biden to the board of directors of Burisma Holdings to protect them from the Maidan authorities, when his father Joe Biden was vice president of the United States. It was for his accusation attempts to Burisma, that incomprehensive Prosecutor General Shokin lost his position. Biden explicitly stated that the US would not give a billion dollars to Ukraine unless Poroshenko and his parliament fired "that son of a *****." For that, and for Hunter Biden receiving millions of dollars in Burisma Holdings just to cover the company from investigations, Republicans are now trying to impeach Joe Biden.

And now Burisma Holdings turns out to be implicated in funding the terrorist attack at Crocus! A statement from the Russian Investigative Committee said:

"The Main Investigative Directorate of the Investigative Committee of the Russian Federation has conducted a check on the appeal of a group of deputies of the State Duma of the Federal Assembly of the Russian Federation and other persons about the financing of terrorist activities by senior officials of the United States and NATO countries. As a result, a criminal case has been opened on the grounds of a crime under Part 4 of Article 205.1 of the Russian Criminal Code ("Financing of terrorism")."

Very intriguing statement. Curious how these high-profile criminal charges against the most senior politicians of the United States and NATO countries will end?

For idiots.... isn't it amazing how right I was! russia was warned something could happen (why warn them?) and then the decision was made to just let it happen and perform a lot of mental gymnastics to 'prove' it was Ukraine.....

How many people with three digit IQs believe that? Even Bobko admitted he only believe about 5% of what the russian government says.....


nothing....

Sounds like the Biden White House.

I think, approximately the same percentage as beleved in british Skripals case. But, neverteless, it was used to cause billions of dollars of damages to Russia using various sanctions, linked to Skripals case.

Let's see what will grow from this case...

@Velund

That the company, where Biden's son was on the board, financed terrorist activity in Russia... I simply cannot subscribe to.

Too convenient and too transparent an attempt at manipulating the elections in the United States. Purely intended for a domestic Russian audience, and the less intelligent in America.

The world is not some version of House of Cards. It's quite a bit more complicated, with many actors involved.

I wish my government the best of luck in propagating this narrative, however I cannot help but feel that valuable time and opportunities are being lost elsewhere.

I think it is not for any audience at all, but for formal reason to something that investigators may use to get court orders during ongoing investigation, like freezing some assets. And investigation may last loooong...

No further comments, though.

According to PF bootlickers, Canada is supposed to be much much much much better than Russia.

It is not...Canada wants to criminalize using wrong pronouns because using the wrong pronoun would hurt the feeeeeelings of some fvcking weirdo.
In fact, Western systems everywhere are based on the rule that nobody - including illegal scum - should have his feeling hurt, even if 99.9% have to adjust to 0.1%. See trans morons.

Logic, facts, numbers, and consequences don't matter anymore in this hell created by women and for women.
That's why I like Nazis more...Under Nazis, nobody was talking about "toxic masculinity" or claimed that men can get pregnant. Women were simply women, not "menstruating persons'.

I believe it, as well as the fact that Burisma used traffic to block the special forces from arriving for 90 minutes, disabled all their helicopters and Burisma employees locked all the fire exits at Crocus