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Poland`s aid to Ukraine if Russia invades - part 10



Korvinus
28 Apr 2024  #2071

This is all Luka's fault.

No. This is all the toxic Russian influence. That is why association with the West is so much better. Just look at the Estonia.

Bobko
28 Apr 2024  #2072

Just look at the Estonia

A rapidly depopulating country, that will likely not exist on the map in 50 years.

This is what you want for Belarus?

Korvinus
28 Apr 2024  #2073

I cannot care less about Belarus. But If choosing the place where to live, my preference would be Estonia.

Bobko
28 Apr 2024  #2074

I cannot care less about Belarus

Be careful that life does not make you care very much about Belarus at some point in the not so distant future.

Korvinus
28 Apr 2024  #2075

Because no one fells safe with Russia nearby.

And if Poland was not allowed into NATO, I'm sure that Poland would be a nuclear state by now.

cms neuf
28 Apr 2024  #2076

North Nigeria is also experiencing some rapid population loss - even according to your own drunk statisticians at Rossstat is will reduce by 8 to 16 million over the next 20 years - a decline of circa 700k per annum.

Throwing all your virile young men into a senseless war with no clear aims and no possibility of victory doesn't help but the main reasons apparently are alcohol abuse, poor health and high abortions. Good news is that the ethnic minorities are maintaining healthy birth rates however, especially the muslims.

johnny reb
28 Apr 2024  #2077

Poland claims it would not be surprised by Russia's attack and explains why

msn.com/en-us/news/world/poland-claims-it-would-not-be-surprised-by-russia-s-attack-and-explains-why/ar-AA1nP7eS?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=ENTPSP&cvid=a73e8ed53e77412a96dd5a9be6f3e354&ei=11

Miloslaw
28 Apr 2024  #2078

@johnny reb

Blimey! a useful and interesting post from you for a change.Though not exactly earth shattering news!We all knew this already.

But hey, the more time you spend making sensible posts, the less time you can spend stalking and abusing other posters on PF.

So, I look at your post as a positive!

Novichok
28 Apr 2024  #2079

From:

msn.com/en-us/news/world/poland-claims-it-would-not-be-surprised-by-russia-s-attack-and-explains-why/ar-AA1nP7eS?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=ENTPSP&cvid=a73e8ed53e77412a96dd5a9be6f3e354&ei=11

A Russian attack would not come as a surprise to Poland, as the Russians have done this many times in Polish history, states Radoslaw Sikorski, Minister of Foreign Affairs of Poland.

He said this because the US warmongers told him to do it to justify NATO, the US presence in Poland, and the insane amount of money Poland wastes on its military.

Since 1990, two mega events have taken place:

1. The USSR and communism are gone
2. Russia is much smaller than the USSR
3. Poland is in NATO
4. NATO's military budget is 20 times greater than Russia's

So the Western azholes need a boogeyman. China is too far, so it's Russia. Last step: Let's provoke Russia into action. Hey, Zhole, we need you...and 500,000 dead Ukrainians...

What a bunch of morons....

Crow
28 Apr 2024  #2080

He said this because the US warmongers told him

I nicely say that Russia needs to nuke some western European country for every BS of Polish politician.

Let them beg Polish politicians to stop to BS.

jon357
28 Apr 2024  #2081

Russia needs

r*SSia knows very well that their major cities would be under a metre of glass were they to try that.

Novichok
29 Apr 2024  #2082

I nicely say that Russia needs to nuke some western European country for every BS of Polish politician.

...and to end all speculations if Russia means what it says.

Crow, I am glad to see you back. The balance is now shifted further away from insanity here.

r*SSia knows very well that their major cities would be under a metre of glass were they to try that.

Before this happens, major US cities will be covered with homeless tents, bums, shyt, and needles...

johnny reb
29 Apr 2024  #2083

major US cities will be covered with homeless tents, bums, shyt, and needles...

Like Nikita Khrushchev said 60 years ago, "We will take America without firing a shot, we will bury you."

johnny reb
29 Apr 2024  #2084

Blimey!

Your angry outbursts are most comical really.
Go look at your last ten posts and tell us who the stalking troll is. lol
Look at your last twenty posts and not one thing about Poland and only insults towards other members in them.
You are the Troll of Trolls here you Głupi tyłek.

https://polishforums.com/index.php?action=userposts&user=57564

NOW do you see why you got the nickname MR. Angry ! Hoot !
You just don't seem to be a very happy camper here. 👺

Novichok
29 Apr 2024  #2085

"We will take America without firing a shot, we will bury you."

The American drama is that it's self-inflicted by our own leftists who aid and abet in the downfall.
Something has to give and fast...

PolAmKrakow
29 Apr 2024  #2086

@Bobko
There are so many Ukrainian men un Krakow of fighting age that it makes a statement in my opinion. If they dont want to fight for their country, why should we continue to supply and fund the war? Hiding and avoiding conscription is nothing new. The volume of the numbers of men hiding and avoiding is in the millions. And here they are driving Uber, making a living and living a normal life. There is a Ukraine version of a Carefour Express around the corner from me, and the whole family is there operating a business and doing quite well. Not that people shouldnt have choices, but if people are moving on and settling in elsewhere, its clear they are either not going back to Ukraine or they are fine just waiting things out.

A lot of news outlets are now talking about Russian gains on the eastern front. Almost all mentioning manpower shortages. I cant help but think the narrative is being set up here for no real big Ukraine moves on the battlefield because of the lack of men. This steers the blame away from weapons shortages, and creates a new excuse at the same time. CNN saying;

"Without (its) manpower advantage, Russia's artillery and airpower advantage would not be sufficient for Russia to make gains on the battlefield. The relative manpower situation is likely the most important factor that will determine the war's trajectory, particularly if Russia can sustain recruiting 20-30k a month,"

There is simply no way Ukraine can keep up with that kind of manpower advantage. None. It is mathematically impossible. No amount of weapons from the west will be able to defeet 20 to 30 thousand men per month heading to the front lines for Russia. Z needs to STFU and sit down with negotiators.

Torq
29 Apr 2024  #2087

There are so many Ukrainian men un Krakow of fighting age

There are two full infantry divisions (at least) in Tricity and probably as many in Wrocław and Warsaw.

But it's as you say PolAm - if Ukrainians themselves are not so eager to fight for their land, then what's the point? Maybe that would be a good idea to end all wars, if civilians simply refused to fight. Let the professionals do the job, and when they die it's time for politicians to march to the frontlines. :) I bet gold toilet sh*tters on all sides would be much less eager to start wars then.

Torq
29 Apr 2024  #2088

Anyways, this war shows exactly what's wrong with white man's civilisation: demographics. In past wars young people constituted the bulk of fighting forces. Today both Ukraine and Russia are trying to save this age group and 30-40 year olds are sent to slaughter simply because their generation is more numerous. Unfortunately, it won't help much because today's 18-28 year olds are not exactly willing to start families and have children, so the future is muslim anyway.

Who gives a f*ck if neo-banderists or neo-sovietists win if both groups are dying out? The entire world will pray to Allah (subhanahu wa ta'ala) eventually and nobody will give a toss (or even put it in history books) if it was Ukraine or Russia who won the gray-haired soldiers' war.

Velund
29 Apr 2024  #2089

if Ukrainians themselves are not so eager to fight for their land

Kanja... There is too many people who does not want to go to war singing "Our father is Bandera, Ukraine is mother"... Looks like rape...

And we also do not like to fight with sons of OTHER faters... ;)

mafketis
29 Apr 2024  #2090

The entire world will pray to Allah

despite his phoney christian veneer.... putain loves muslims and has a history of deferring to their wishes

that's one of the thing that real russian nationalists didn't like but if they spoke publicly about that..... goodbye7th floor window.... hello street!

Torq
29 Apr 2024  #2091

we also do not like to fight with sons of OTHER faters

Or OTHER sons of b*tches. ;)

It's a pathetic gray-haired soldiers' war, Veli. A war between two dying out countries, ruled by equally corrupt gold toilet sh*tters. Cheering for either side is like cheering for either side in a Rapists FC vs Paedophile United football game.

putain loves muslims

Well, the man is smart - he knows that the future belongs to them, because they follow God's commmands.

jon357
29 Apr 2024  #2092

Before this happens, major US cities will be covered with homeless tents, bums, shyt, and needles...

They are anyway.

that's one of the thing that real russian nationalists didn't like but if they spoke publicly about tha

The inherent hypocrisy of the right-wing.

Some nice news from the front. A £21,000 Ukrainian drone took out a £6,000,000 Orc defence system. More of the same please!
metro.co.uk/2024/04/29/epic-moment-21-000-ukrainian-drone-takes-6-000-000-russian-radar-system-20735270/?ico=top-stories_home_top

Lenka
29 Apr 2024  #2093

A war between two dying out countries, ruled by equally corrupt gold toilet sh*tters.

Besides that little fact that one is the invader and one is...not.

because they follow God's commmands.

If that is how people should be to please god then I'm happier than ever to be an atheist.

Velund
29 Apr 2024  #2094

between two dying out countries

I do not see any signs that I live in a dying country. Maybe it was like that in a beginning of 2000's, but situation is changed drastically now. Thank you for sanctions, billions "invested" in the past in destroying Russia's industrial infrastructure and making internal production of almost anything incompetitive is finally trashed. ;)

Torq
29 Apr 2024  #2095

I do not see any signs that I live in a dying country.

Q: What's the average age of a frontline soldier in Ukrainian-Russian war.
A: About 43, on both sides.

... no further questions, Your Honour.

1

When this war ends, I hope there won't be any next - because it will have to be fought on wheelchairs. *rolls eyes*

cms neuf
29 Apr 2024  #2096

I don't understand this "no amount of weapons can overcome the manpower" - that has been untrue since 1945 and of course drones, missiles and air cover can eliminate lots of North Nigerian farm boys

I agree that Ukrainians should go home to fight but to press the buttons on drones, not to engage in suicidal human waves.

The North Nigerians need more men because they are trying to capture and then occupy territory (and occupation will never be viable as the local population now hate them)

mafketis
29 Apr 2024  #2097

I do not see any signs that I live in a dying country

uranium in the tobol river?

twitter.com/kardinal691/status/1782400568855535673

twitter.com/Franzedd15/status/1784796463383617545

twitter.com/ChrisO_wiki/status/1657410601725882370

twitter.com/mila__alien/status/1782787785620877481

none of the above are signs of a healthy society....

Crow
29 Apr 2024  #2098

r*SSia knows very well that their major cities would be under a metre of glass were they to try that.

This comment of yours proves that you talk about politics and absolutely know nothing of it.

Let me tell you. The USA wouldn`t do a thing if Russia glass entire western Europe. It would feel uncomfortable only for Britain. But not enough uncomfortable, if you understand me.

And you know why? Because the USA considers western Europe a, to tell that way, for the energy and resource vampires. Meaning, that the USA does not have enough energy and resources to sustain its own populace and economy, let alone bail out western Europe. Also, if fully functional and let alone, western Europe would always tend to turn to Russia for cooperation. In any case western Europe is tgreat to the USA. The USA tires itself in constant occupation of western Europe. So, the best use of western Europe for the USA is to use western Europe against Russia. First to create crisis to give enough time to money transfer from western Europe to the USA and then to lure western Europe into a suicidal war against Russia, hoping complete destruction of western Europe and at least some harm to Russia.

That is a reserve plan for the USA if money transfers from western Europe (read shot down of western European economy- so goes that talk of green...) isn`t enough for the US economy to secure the position of the USA as the dominant or at least equal power in multi-polar world.

If the US manages to consolidate itself, the USA will let western Europe talk to Russia and eventually find a solution, no matter if it joins in Eurasian Union or vegetates as the EU dependent on all other major players.

...and to end all speculations if Russia means what it says.

Exactly.

Plus, we who love Poland have Poland saved. Because we all know Poland is under occupation. So, let real perpetrators suffer, not Poland.

jon357
29 Apr 2024  #2099

Let me tell you. The USA

Did you think they're the only free country with nukes?

we all know Poland is under occupation

By whom?

PolAmKrakow
29 Apr 2024  #2100

@cms neuf
WW2 was won because the Nazis were divided across too many fronts, and the Allies overwhelmed them with men and technology in Europe. Ukraine simply has technology, and not enough men to take back what they have lost. This is simple battlefield recognition. Russia can and will continue to send tend of thousands to Ukraine to fight, and eventually if peace isnt negotiated, all of Ukraine will fall. The US wont be sending more after this aid package.

@Crow
You are absolutely correct. The US is doing nothing if Russia nukes a European city. The US will not put its people at home at risk of nuclear war. Anyone thinking otherwise doesnt know $hit. But you are incorrect about the US resources. The US has more than enough energy for itself and others if it is allowed to be taken out of the ground. There will be no multi polar world, thats just delusional talk. China is about to enter a recession more like the great depression. Its housing market is in complete collapse, and the population is shrinking at record pace. Russia will survive, but recovering from this war will take many years.


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