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Poland`s aid to Ukraine if Russia invades - part 10



Torq
29 Apr 2024  #2101

The US is doing nothing if Russia nukes a European city. The US will not put its people at home at risk of nuclear war. Anyone thinking otherwise doesnt know $hit.

But... but... Article 5.... but... but... nuclear umbrella... but... but...

*rolls eyes*

Thank you for stating the obvious, PolAm. They don't listen when I say it, maybe they'll listen to you.

Crnogorac3
29 Apr 2024  #2102

Did you think they're the only free country

twitter.com/adamshivar68/status/1784856792545075455/

The First Amendment is dead when it comes to criticizing Israel. Universities and politicians are quick to silence anti-Israel protests. Is this what freedom looks like in America?

- Nick Fuentes

twitter.com/classicsgroyp/status/1716796213620605015/

twitter.com/scksgrypr/status/1778115326900904213/

America isn't really a free country. It is a plutocracy meaning rule of the rich.

Velund
29 Apr 2024  #2103

Another article by Tatiana Montyan on her Telegram channel. On the subject of stealing taxpayers' money at such a pace, as if tomorrow will never come. But... Maybe there's something we don't know about tomorrow?

A money grubber of universal proportions! 😱

(t.me/montyan2/7725)

The British government has come up with a solution to the migration crisis. They are going to send several planes to Rwanda (theguardian.com/uk-news/2024/apr/25/flights-deport-asylum-seekers-rwanda-indefinitely-james-cleverly) every month. Apparently, consent to be sent to Rwanda will be a prerequisite for asylum and residence permit seekers. That is, in order not to lose the chance to hang on to life in Britain, refugees will have to voluntarily agree to go to Rwanda while their cases are being processed by the migration service, and they can do so indefinitely. πŸ˜‚

But that's not what's most curious, it's the cost to the British budget of sending one refugee to Rwanda. So, the scheme would cost £1.8m per person. You're not imagining it: sending one refugee to Rwanda will cost the British budget £1.8 million. In total, the program will cost taxpayers many billions. Among other things, the sum includes accommodation for British refugees in Rwandan hotels at £140 per night with no associated costs. That's $175, and for that kind of money you can rent a room in a Hilton or Mariott hotel in Miami. In Moscow, you can also stay in a Hilton, Savoy or Radisson for that kind of money. πŸ€”

I am sure that if the Brits offered such conditions to their illegal immigrants, there would be an instant queue of those who would like to stay in beautiful hotels in Moscow, St. Petersburg, Miami, Milan, Amsterdam or Dubai.

I'm even more convinced that any refugee who received even 10% of the £1.8m in hand would be happy to go back to his homeland or some neighboring country with a culture close to theirs, rather than bumming around on welfare in Britain. ☝️

But why won't the British government take the easier and cheaper route, and persistently promote the project of resettling migrants in Rwanda at a cost of living there per day more than the average Rwandan earns in a month?I can't believe that in such a highly developed country as Britain - with such an independent journalism, a huge number of NGOs and a wonderful law enforcement and judicial system - one can so brazenly pilfer such money! There's no way that could happen! And the most ironic thing is that while the British government is not going to take the easier and cheaper route, it is persistently pushing the project of resettling migrants in Rwanda at a cost of living there per day more than the average Rwandan earns in a month?

And the most ironic thing is that while the Brits are making money to deport one migrant - a couple hundred more will come across the Channel.


PolAmKrakow
29 Apr 2024  #2104

@Torq
If it happened, Article 5 would be invoked. And if the US is still in NATO, they would elect to assist with aid, not military action. The only war the US is going to ever possibly see that risks US citizens on US soil will be a civil war. And if Putin does something, the city should be Brussels, namely right on top of the EU buildings. Imagine how quickly France says "ummmmm yeah, so about our nukes, yeah I think we have them in the shop under repair and we just cant use them right now".

@Crnogorac3
People are free to voice their First Amendement rights everywhere. But they are not free to riot, and set up tent cities on property they dont own. I say fvck Israel and Palestine. Let them and all the other towel heads in the middle east who want to kill each other do it. Their wars, are not our wars.

jon357
29 Apr 2024  #2105

The First Amendment is

First amendment to what?

America isn't really a free country. It is a plutocracy meaning rule of the rich.

On this we agree.

Another article by Tatiana Montyan

Someone writing rubbish.

Crnogorac3
29 Apr 2024  #2106

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Intel Slava Z
πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡¦πŸ‡΅πŸ‡± Ukraine has asked Poland for the possibility of stopping social payments to Ukrainian refugees in order to force them to leave Poland for the slaughterhouse.

It is quite obvious that due to the shortage of personnel and difficulties with mobilization, refugees in Europe are considered by the terrorist regime and its masters as a resource that can be thrown into the furnace.

Hence the forced mobilization, the new law on mobilization, the deprivation of Ukrainians' rights and freedoms, the creation of problems with paperwork, and now the cessation of payments.

Problems with documents + termination of payments is a way to force people to go to Ukraine to be killed there at the front.

jon357
29 Apr 2024  #2107

the deprivation of Ukrainians' rights and freedoms

By r*SSia who has done this.

Ukraine has asked Poland

Is this confirmed by Ukraine or Poland?

Crnogorac3
29 Apr 2024  #2108

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Intel Slava Z
πŸ‡΅πŸ‡±πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡¦βš‘οΈPoland is ready to help Ukraine return men of conscription age, - Minister of Defense and Deputy Prime Minister of Poland Wladyslaw Kosiniak-Kamisz.

Ironside
29 Apr 2024  #2109

Thank you for stating the obvious, PolAm.

IIs not that obvious. The US would lose all credibility and they are losing it with their weak help for Ukraine, they shouldn't have even started they made it worse.

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And if the US is still in NATO, they would elect to assist

In that case, they can roll up a carpet and forget about profits and their credibility in the region. Goodbye, the world domination, and hello the new world order.

Crow
29 Apr 2024  #2110

But you are incorrect about the US resources. The US has more than enough energy for itself and others

It does not have enough. Non have enough. Not even Russia. That is why we have these kinds of problems in the wake of the era of globalization. But the US has enough to sustain itself for some time. How long, we- the public, can`t be sure. The same is true with China, Russia, etc. That is why we got AUCUS, while Russia mentioned Belgrade as the Capital of the Eurasian Union. Clubs are being formed for distibution of limited resources. Outside of clubs is the oblivion.

The point is that the EU (read western Europe), does not have the bare minimum for itself while having no power to loot the world as it used to. So, western Europe (ie EU) does not have a future.

PolAmKrakow
29 Apr 2024  #2111

@Ironside
Really? The US is not going to lose anything if Europe is at war. New world order? With what? The EU? The EU cant even decide on fvcking immigration policies. You think the EU can lead anything? Thats hilarious.

@Crow
Oil is the second most plentiful liquid on the earth. The US has plenty and can add plenty more if regulations are changed.

gumishu
29 Apr 2024  #2112

The US is not going to lose anything if Europe is at war.

wrong: the US would lose billion in revenues from IT projects especially web based services like Google, Uber, all those Trivagos etc

Alien
29 Apr 2024  #2113

You think the EU can lead anything? Thats hilarious.

In the case of immigration policy, it is probably doing better than the USA.

Torq
29 Apr 2024  #2114

The US would lose all credibility

Well, maybe it's just me but don't you get this general impression that ever since the fall of Afghanistan, the US would seem to be giving significantly lesser amount of f*ck about their credibility than they did before?

Novichok
29 Apr 2024  #2115

Problems with documents + termination of payments is a way to force people to go to Ukraine to be killed there at the front.

It's OK if it is for "freedom and democracy" or to stick it to Putin.

PolAmKrakow
29 Apr 2024  #2116

@Alien
They cant get anyone to agree on immigration. Poland is the only smart country holding out.

@gumishu
The US can obviously survive billions in losses. 61 billion last week alone to Ukraine.

BTW, in Russia 400 people were arrested last year for saying things on social media the government said were illegal. 3300 were arrested in GB for speech determined to be illegal under GB laws. Interesting.

Crow
29 Apr 2024  #2117

Oil is the second most plentiful liquid on the earth. The US has plenty and can add plenty more if regulations are changed.

If you are right the USA would change regulations and replace former position of Russia on the world market, as the global oil station. Russia would then become isolated and sanctions to Russia would have sense.

In other words, you are not right. What reserves the USA has it keeps it to itself.

Novichok
29 Apr 2024  #2118



Putin's Mega Missile Barrage At A Freight Train Carrying Weapons Through Donetsk To Kyiv

Morons: Great! It's good for employment and the US economy!!!! Thank you, Vlad, for giving us an oppo to quickly replace what your guys busted. We liked it so much that we will let you know when the next transport is going to take place....

PolAmKrakow
29 Apr 2024  #2119

@Crow
I am right. Joe Biden has not allowed drilling to take place in the most oil rich areas. Everyone in oil has said this. Oil is created inside the earth every day. The myth of being a fossil fuel, is completely incorrect as oil comes mostly from decaying algee and other life along with chemical reactions within the earth. Running out of oil? Another myth. When politicians with comepletely fvcked up ideas about battery driven cars are in charge they will do everything to make their agenda come true. Russia doesnt need anyone else either, they only need computer chip supplies.

Crow
29 Apr 2024  #2120

One of these days Serbian president Vucic called Polish Tusk to visit Serbia. He have something to tell him. Serbian public speculate that eventual Tusk`s visit may represent turning point in Poland`s policy and Poland may tackle NATO and EU.

Novichok
29 Apr 2024  #2121

Ukraine's top general admits 'tactical' retreat underway
Aleksandr Syrsky has acknowledged battlefield setbacks after Moscow seized the initiative


Ukrainian military units have pulled back from three villages in Russia's Donetsk People's Republic as Moscow's forces continue to push westward from the regions' capital city, Kiev's top general has conceded.

Why are U troops in Russia? Hey, Z, bring them home and the war is over.

Velund
29 Apr 2024  #2122

Ukraine has asked Poland for the possibility of stopping social payments to Ukrainian refugees in order to force them to leave Poland for the slaughterhouse.

I think one of smartest things Putin can do now, it is issuing of executive order to allow consulates and embassies abroad to receive applications to obtain citiezenship of Russia for holders of ukrainian passports through simplified procedure.

johnny reb
29 Apr 2024  #2123

The US is doing nothing if Russia nukes a European city.

I would have to agree with you PolAm.
Here is the latest today on the subject.
Poland claims it would not be surprised by Russia's attack and explains why

msn.com/en-us/news/world/poland-claims-it-would-not-be-surprised-by-russia-s-attack-and-explains-why/ar-AA1nP7eS?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=ENTPSP&cvid=a73e8ed53e77412a96dd5a9be6f3e354&ei=11

What rally surprises me is that France, Sweden, Switzerland and Ireland have all pre distributed K1 to their citizens yet Poland being a primary target for a nuclear war has not, as cheap as it is.

Crow
29 Apr 2024  #2124

I am right.

If you are right then we have world government or at least world coordination body that falsely creates global crisis in order to create new geo-strategic architecture of the world, for all sorts of reasons.

jon357
29 Apr 2024  #2125

@Crnogorac3
Your crap from 'telegram' says nothing about cutting payments.

The myth of being a fossil fuel, is completely incorrect as oil

What a stupid thing to write. Oil is certainly a fossil fuel. The term fossil fuel doesn't actually mean dinosaurs you know.

johnny reb
29 Apr 2024  #2126

Poland Issues Grim Prediction for Russia if It Attacks

msn.com/en-us/news/world/poland-issues-grim-prediction-for-russia-if-it-attacks/ar-AA1nQDmZ?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=ENTPSP&cvid=a237f2b1dfcb4121bf35d59658057a40&ei=4

Ironside
29 Apr 2024  #2127

Really?

Really! The US today's main problem is hubris, but if you let it go in Europe that is the beginning of the end of PAX Americana.

Who said anything about the EU, some of you Yanks have a feeble grasp of what the EU is and what it isn't. It is not a copy of the USA in Europe and won't be.

The EU will do nothing and will lead nothing it is in decline. I'm talking about the new order without one dominating power but with few regional powers.

So, in that scenario, The US will be secure as a dominant power in the Americas but that is about it.
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jon357
29 Apr 2024  #2128

a dominant power in the Americas but that is about it.
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At most. Man made climate change and a third world everyone for themselves tendency which exists among some there will hit them hard.

Crow
29 Apr 2024  #2129

what the EU is and what it isn't. It is not a copy of the USA in Europe and won't be.

Yes. With every new day EU is more like a Reich or old Frankia.

The US will be secure as a dominant power in the Americas but that is about it.

Those are prospects, yes.

Bratwurst Boy
29 Apr 2024  #2130

Nah....we would have an army to speak of....


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