Poland`s aid to Ukraine if Russia invades - part 10

Hmm... good thinking, but they would probably also have to give up their Ukrainian passports to avoid conscription and as special laws regulate social benefits for people of Ukrainian citizenship residing in Poland, they might lose them anyways. But I suppose losing benefits is better than being sent to the frontline.

I'm thinking the exact same thing. So many of the Ukrainian comments I'm seeing under articles about the new mobilization laws are to the tune of "f*ck this country, I'm done with it."

We could add several million people, without firing a single round.

Happy, satisfied, patriotic new Russians???

They probably won't move to Russia, for the same reasons they don't want to go back to Ukraine. However, they could still make use of a Russian passport to stay compliant with all their local immigration requirements.

People feel betrayed by Ukraine's actions. Many of them left 10-20-30 years ago. Many still supported Ukraine with regular donations, and through public action. In thanks, the government brands them as a bunch of parasites, and suspends government services to these people. Because nobody but a tiny minority will actually go to die in Ukraine, what the government is doing is forcing people into a limbo of a legal status - which sooner or later they will resolve.

I'm confident people will figure it out, and the EU, Canada, US won't betray their own values and ship them out to die.

However, before they can figure it out, Russia needs to swoop in and at least provide them the option of getting a Russian passport. This could be useful for all sorts of reasons in the future.

So russia wouln't send them straight to the front? ha ha ha ha ha !!!!!!!!

meanwhile russian state media is telling people their desire to stay alive is wrong and they're ramping up for soviet style forced psychiatric treatment for those who don't like the government... (and people who like cats.... too apparently)

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What kind of mental defective wants to join such a pathetic loser culture?

@jon357
You are dumber than a fvcking rock. Go fvck off now.

The original story was that these "fossil fuels" were from dinosaurs. When they are 99% not from decaying animal matter, this material is largely from plant matter, and algee. This term is largely used to describe oil, though it should represent coal, natural gas and others. The US will not run out of this, and neither will Russia.

@Ironside
There wont be any regional powers. That is a pipe dream we are watching China blow up right now. Russia wont roll through the EU unless the EU becomes complacent again. The US will continue to dominate North and South America, and anyone who wants the business of the US. This would include the UK, Japan, South Korea, Australia, and others. The idea that the US is simply going to disappear from influencing Europe by not going all in on a nuclear war if Russia strikes is nonsensical. England wont be going all in either. France will sit and sh1t itself like it did in WW2. Israel? Those nukes are only going to Iran. Russia will be what it is, and the US will as well. The EU will buy gas from the US and/or Russia because it has to. The Middle East will continue to ride their fvcking donkeys while firing machine guns, and the Africans will fight over all the natural resources they sell for pennies on the dollar like they alwas have. In the end nothing will change.

Unlike Ukrainians, Russians are allowed to travel abroad.

The size of the annual wave of conscription is slightly larger now, but broadly in line with past years.

There is no "mobilization" in Russia, of the same flavor as in Ukraine, but rather a vigorous recruiting drive. If you don't want to fight, nobody will send you to Ukraine.

The days of "mobiks" and prisoners are in the past. Now most of Russia's fresh recruits are volunteers.

So as you can see, there's many advantages to having a Russian passport. Maybe the main one is that it actually allows you to escape the hell of the war. I think a lot of Ukrainians would take advantage of a Russian passport.

What army? All your gov does is clutch to the things they know and know to keep Poland down economically and are not that keen on Poland getting a stronger military, so where is the German army that will protect Poland and maybe even the Baltic states? Not even in the making. Wake up and smell the coffee.


I doubt their change of status would help them that much. I can't speak for Germany but they would not have a place in Poland. It would be easier for them to give up a Ukrainian passport and apply for residence in Poland.

Do you have a copyright for this? Or can I use it when appropriate?

Hey, Uncle Ruckus take a nap.
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Keep telling yourself that. Why don't you pat yourself on the shoulder while you are on it?
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Russia pays them good money, provides housing, and so on.

Russia also rotates its men. The guys that took Avdeevka, have had a month to rest and reconstitute. Now they have been redeployed to Ocheretyno.

Meanwhile, many Ukrainian units have not been rotated out since Feb 2022.

Can you imagine sitting in a trench for two years, without rest? Two years is enough time for some people to get a law degree. It's enough time for a child to make his first steps. Two years is a long time...

Russia trains its men. Not long enough, maybe, only 2-3 months sometimes... but Ukraine provides 2-3 weeks of training in most instances. Sending a person with 2-3 weeks of training to the front line is a goddamn crime. That's one reason they die like rabbits.

Russia conscripts much more youngsters than Ukraine despite having a bigger population : usnews.com/news/world/articles/2024-03-31/russias-putin-signs-decree-on-spring-military-conscription

And youngsters have priority for non combat roles in UA. Ukraine obviously seeks to protect the youngest men from the frontlines, while Russians send everyone they can grab.

Soldier claims 'nobody willing' to join Ukrainian army - media
Kiev has no spare troops to relieve those already engaged, an Azov regiment serviceman has reportedly told local

Hey, U guys, what's the matter? Are you "surrender boys"? Or did you find my Z-P=0 compelling?

r*SSia needs to stay the hell out of other countries. The sheer force of resistence against them should give a few clues about that.


So as I said, fossil fuels; biomass from distant history and very finite as well as dangerous to extract and refine, complex to transport and harmful to the environment. In wartime however, it's necessary and Putler's attempts to coerce certain countries to reduce production has failed. Despite r*SSia's pressure on Algeria and the west's pressure on Libya, both are producing at full capacity now.


I may be as thick as pigsh1t however I'm not a felon who bangs on about gun ownership and party politics while being unable to own guns or vote.

What resistance?


Big words. Big bla bla. Russia`s influence is welcome and vice versa, exchange of influences, economic cooperation, strengthening of mutual Slavic ties, etc..

Ukraine strongly disagrees with you and disagrees with their blood.

Do you mean a gang of banderite usurpers that McCain and Nuland managed to came to power in 2014 for $5+bn from US taxpayers?

@jon357

Out of Russian ethnic regions in Ukraine, Ukrainians are mostly Serbs and they are now drugged and don`t know what they do. So, as a Serbian I am competent to say that Russia have obligation to liberate all Slavs of Ukraine.

@jon357
Again dumb fvck, not only do I vote, but legally own guns. You dont know sh1t. You are the perfect example of why people cant trust what they read online. Now go diddle some little boy you POS.

Now, a large demonstration in Warsaw yesterday from Ukrainian men who are angry at the new Ukraine policy for consular services. They are objecting to not being able to renew passports, or receive other consular services if they are otherwise able to serve in the Ukraine military. Not only does this show that men are unwilling to fight for Ukraine, but it shows Z is not that popular anywhere with Ukraine people.

Gods mercy is upon us! Let us celebrate! Russians are coming!

That's democracy for you.


There are always draft dodgers in any war.


Multiple newspaper reports of court trials are generally considered credible, however yes, PF and other dark corners of the web are infested by right-wing fantasists

I love when people are not smart enough to do some simple math. Complete lack of intelligence on display. Must be busy counting c0cks of young boys.

Anyway, in the real war, Z is once again telling people that they "have to do their duty" and support Ukraine financially and militarily. So how the fvck is everyone else suppossed to have a duty to Ukraine when its own people dont want to do their duty? And now, because of Z's totaly retarded idea to display Russian tanks and other vehicles in Kiev as some fvcking trophy shop Vlad is doing the same with US and other NATO members captured ites in Moscow.

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Thats just brilliant. Hand Vlad a new PR tool to strengthen his image among Russian people. Re-energize Russians to sign up to kill not only Ukraine people but to rally against the west completely. Just what Russians needed, to go back to hating the west for killing Russians, not knowing what they will sacrifice in the future because of this.

And Poland has a duty to go out of NATO pact. Reasons are to many, beside safety of Polish civilians and Polish statehood. NATO is against Racowie (Serbians) and used depleted uranium on us. NATO is anti-Slavic because using Slavs for war among themselves. NATO is proven worldwide terrorist organization and neo-colonial instrument. Etc.

As do we all. No man is an island, we none of us live in isolation. What sets humans apart from other apes is that we are altruistic rather than purely selfish. There are those who shirk thgeir duty or put their own wellbeing above that of society as a whole, and it is every society's duty to ensure that they don't. Same in your country, same in mine and same in our shared one.


A strange thing to say and demeaning to people with learning disabilities, some of whom serve their countries and have lost their lives in both sides of this war.


An even stranger thing to say.

Sure, the way they tackle this little flood in their backyard simply screams "Russia stronk". No army comes to the rescue of the population that lost everything because it is used in meat assaults on the outskirts of Chasiv Yar.

@jon357
Ok little man, lets play a little math game. Lets say that in 2014 OJ Simpson went to prison for robbery set to serve 5.5 years. Yet in 2018 OJ receives a humanitarian of the year award for his charitable works with the homeless people in Las Vegas. Now if OJ is in prison, it would be impossible for him to receive that award in 2018, yet it happened. Lets guess how that happens, or does the math, and potential for other information impacting this scenario trouble you? You want to talk $hit about something you have zero knowledge of. Now once again go fvck off.

Germany stepped up for Ukraine today delivering more air defenses and ammunition among more armored vehicles. Poland is now saying they are willing to assist Ukraine in returning draft dodgers to Ukraine, but that Ukraine would have to initiate those actions. Lithuania saying they are on board with returning draft dodgers as well. The objecting to and avoiding the draft is still a crime in Ukraine. So go fight or do some time, you have a choice. Pretty fair choice really. Would definitely show Z and the world what Ukraine men wouold chose. My guess is that the jails would be over flowing. That would say everything the world needs to know.

I fully support sending Ukies back to fight, or alternatively a special tax they pay which Poland can then use to buy drones or ammo for Ukraine or our own army.

It's important to consider why those men left Ukraine in the first place. If they left before the war and never returned, they should be allowed to live their lives without any interference. However, if they left during the war, it raises questions about the situation in Ukraine. It's concerning that they now require help from other countries to return. As a community, we should be cautious about getting involved in matters that are not our own. The men's situation is unfortunate, but we must keep in mind that there are limits to the aid that we can provide.

To flee an invasion which isn't unusual. Most stayed though. In the first days of the war, Ukraine had other things to deal with than screening those who left via land borders.


This may yet happen. Ukraine are managing well with the resources they've got though and a priority is those with military experience.


That post is meaningless, crabbily bitter and hysterical. Try not to demean yourself further.

You have a way of doing that to people jon357.
You are a very nasty person.
Get a grip.