Poland`s aid to Ukraine if Russia invades - part 10

We're discussing the biggest war in Europe since WWII.

No time for your trolling.

@jon357
You are meaningless faggot. Again you keep talking but you dont know anything. You cant even answer a simple hypothetic because you are pathetic and incapable of real intelligent thought. I really hope to run into you one day. Keyboard gangster you are. Oh so tough. Hysterical is you. Demean myself? I dont think so. I am simply sticking up for myself with you the online stalker.

Anyone else want to answer the question for the resident coxucker and groomer of young boys?

@PolAmKrakow
More ranting. If you keep wanting to make yourself look weak and hysterical, feel free.

And meanwhile Ukraine are still fighting and still strong. And they've just shot down a r*SSian missile attack.

The next large scale weapons delivery is due, as a society they're pulling together remarkably and of course they're now beginning to deal with draft dodgers.

I came to the same conclusion, too.

At least he didn't reproduce.

And you know that how?

Ok, since the resident coxucker doesnt want to answer. If action 1 happened to OJ and action 2 happened to OJ, then something happened in between those two instances. Multiple choice answer for in intellectually challenged. a.) OJ escaped from prison to do good deeds for the homeless in Las Vegas and the Police just didnt feel like sending him back, or b.) OJ won an appeal to a higher court having all his rights restored

Now, since the local know it all stalker, wont answer, I will let you guess.

In the mean time, a fresh news report out of Ukraine about how men are not surviving their planned illegal escapes from Ukraine through Moldova or Romania. Some are being killed by the elements and some by animals. Wonderful way to die. And yet these men would rather rick that fate than fight for Ukraine.

Where did you get this info?

Zelensky recently has proposed to allow jailed convicts to serve.

All the reports from a variety of sources indicate that Ukraine is having a major issue with getting men to fight.

The average age of a Uke soldier is early-40's and he hasn't been cycled out for R&R for over 2 years.

Is there a point where we in the West should demand Ukraine to revise its goal of pushing Russia completely out?

www-tagesspiegel-de.translate.goog/internationales/ich-werde-auch-diesen-krieg-uberleben-98-jahrige-ukrainerin-fluchtet-zehn-kilometer-zu-fuss-vor-der-russischen-armee-11595230.html?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en&_x_tr_pto=wapp

No water, no food, instead just two crutches and an iron will to survive: an almost 100-year-old Ukrainian woman reports on her escape in a video.

Wow.....tough girl! :)

You're being poetic but it's not aesthetic to act so pyretic with such exegetic. Maybe it's genetic but you sound frenetic so I suggest chill-outic. ;)


No wonder. There hasn't been such pointless (almost to the point of absurdity) conflict since the 1969 war between Salvador and Honduras.

We should make demands on Ukraine ?

Worked well with the Czechs in 1938.

How many Ukrainians should we demand to live under the rule of the drunk rapists ?

@Torq
I will "chill out" when the admin of this site who shared my identifying information with this POS appologizes, and then aformentioned POS stops stalking me. Maybe you would want your information given to people who have no business knowing who you are? Having dealt with a stalker before, the only way to deal with them if they wont identify themselves is to try to find out who they are by other means, and then ensure the authorities make them understand in a not so polite way that their actions are illegal.

Well, as BB usually says: who pays the piper calls the tune. At the moment Ukraine is completely reliant on the West both in economic and military terms, things do not look rosy on the frontline (to put it very mildly), but Mr Z still refuses to conduct proper mass mobilization. We are led to believe that Ukraine is at war against a strong, vicious, mortal enemy whom they want to totally push out of their borders, but at the same time they haven't conducted proper mobilization for two years.

Mr Zelensky likes to teach us about the duties we have towards Ukraine, so maybe - just maybe - someone should remind him that it's Ukrainians who have most duties towards Ukraine and, as someone rightly noticed, they somehow don't seem to be particularly willing to die in this war.


What?

Surely this can't be true! Jon can be an annoying son of a Brit sometimes but an internet stalker who illegally gathers personal information online? Surely not. :-/

Let's simplify things...This war was started by the US, it is funded by the US, the US is the only beneficiary, and it will end when the US decides to end it.

On the bright side, it's not the Americans who are dying in it. The useful tools are when Z ships them to the grinder zones.

The war will end when Z runs out of meat to grind, we will run out of ink, or when RINOs grow balls - whichever comes first.

I mentioned RINOs just for fun...RINOs and balls are mutually exclusive concepts.

I would say that the US playing games and providing only a limited amount of equipment during the first years of the conflict are at fault. Would they give enough of munitions that Ukrainians would have a chance to take Krym during their offensive?

Their problem is that F about because they think they can do it with impunity and that is not the case. Their internal strife is really getting on my nerves.

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What?Les petits ruisseaux font les grandes rivières.

Rich, get a patent for colorful clown/masquerade plastic balls with place for some fun insciption on a gift package. I think there will be some demand before election - when electorate will want to give some advices to their politicians. ;)

How come you talk about balls much more frequently than any faggot I know? Uncle Ruckus.

So what are you saying, Rich? The US is putting the safety of Europe at risk for its own benefit and won't move a finger in case the sh*t hits the fan (there are nuclear strikes on Europe)?


It looks like it. The question is: are they willing to play until the last Ukrainian? Or maybe even to the last Pole?

The problem with your excellent point is that you are not cynical enough.
The US warmongers know that Russia will win this one so they simply want to keep this war going until it's no longer of benefit to them.

Biden needs to look presidential to be re-elected. That's why he loves this war and the one in Gaza.

The bonus: The invasion in Texas is no longer the front-page news. In fact, the networks don't mention it at all...

Torq, now I am truly impressed by your way of seeing things...

YES! The US does not need Europe other than as a landing strip.

NO! The US and everybody else knows that Europe is safe because Russia has no means or desire to be a threat.

Here is the list of reasons why the US ruling class loves this war more than anything...

1. MICC rolls in the dough by the billions
2. Russia is getting weaker
3. Europe is more dependent on US energy
4. The Pentagon dumps old junk and gets newer toys.
5. NATO is needed more than ever
6. Biden looks presidential

Greed is the single best way to explain things. All that talk about "freedom and democracy" is an insult to anyone with an IQ of 80 and higher.

Indeed (however, I would bring that IQ cut off point to somewhere around 60).

I blame the feminisation of the discourse in politics (and on this board) when emotions take over logic. All this should be discussed in terms of balance of power which has been severely distorted, for many reasons, in recent decades.

Macron is planning to shield Europe with a 'nuclear umbrella' consisting of 300 missiles to deter Russia.
About time France did something for the E.U. and NATO.
Thank you France, we love you. 🥰

Fair.


Smart.


Why am I not surprised?

The two countries, which have come out strongly in support of shipping Ukrainians back to die, are Lithuania and Poland. The other countries have been much more circumspect in their statements.

It's clear as day, why it is Lithuania and Poland that support such measures. Both Lithuania and Poland have a large part of their population living abroad, just as Ukraine does. Perhaps they think that if Russia attacks them, they'll also need Germany or the UK to ship their Poles and Lithuanians back.

Fact of the matter is, it's not possible to ship any Ukrainians back for at least another year - that's when the EU-wide temporary protection of their status expires. It's a near certainty that the status will be extended, however.

Germany and Estonia have already said that they will not be sending people back to a country at war, and that Ukrainians with expired passports will be able to renew their immigration docs.

Furthermore, today Ukraine's minister for Euro-Atlantic integration, Olga Stefanishina, stated that Ukraine will not be seeking to forcibly return anyone - not least because it has no means available to it to do so. All Ukraine wants is for people abroad to register in the enlistment rolls, so it can have an accurate idea of what manpower potential exists.

So once again, in typical Polish fashion, defence minister Wladyslaw Kosiniak-Kamysz was running ahead of the train with his announcements last week about sending Ukrainians home. In fact, he really shot himself in the foot. Because he will not be able to send Ukrainian men home, but he has already raised the expectations of the far right - expectations which will now be hard to put back into the bottle. Thus, on flat ground, your defense minister has set up a new fake dilemma for Polish society to discuss: "Either we give them weapons, or we ship them back."

We already lost the domestic culture wars to the screaming girlie mobs with their "me too" and "women must be trusted" crap.

In fact, the opposite is true: Never, ever trust a woman. Lacking strength, they are master manipulators and liars.

Memo to touchy-feely broads: Stay in the kitchen! Men can't afford to lose control over weapons.

O...M...G...

Novichok was talking about IQ 80 cut-off point in relation to believing that freedom and democracy are a priority in world politics, but to believe in France firing a nuclear missile at Russia, in response to e.g. Russian attack on Poland, requires a negative IQ (if that's even possible).


I would extend this rule to 'never, ever trust anybody' (especially in politics).

Ehrm, France surrendered its own freedom when it became worried that the Louvre may be damaged.

@Torq
He did and he his. Gutless fvck who wont identify himself. POS

It gets better for my American friends. Z let it slip that he is negotiating with Biden on a ten year security package from the US. Can you believe this?

I know. You mentioned Kosiniak-Kamysz talking sh*t but Macron's statements about French nuclear umbrella for Europe are on a completely different level of nonsense. I don't think I'm ready to move to this level of absurd. WTF???


At this point I'm not sure what to believe - this war is f*cked up on waaaay too many levels.

This and the rest of the paragraph...

Great insight into the Polish way of "thinking" - emotional, illogical, tempestuous, knee-jerk, heroic,...Yikes...

The problem: You can't reason with people like this. They will drown you with metaphors and slogans.

It appears it's not a refusal but an impossibility. He doesn't have the men to mobilize.


Well put!


Nice analogy!


How many Ukrainians should we expect to die?

CMS, do you believe Ukraine can actually push Russia completely out? If so, how do you think that will occur when Ukraine is woefully short of manpower?