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Poland`s aid to Ukraine if Russia invades - part 10



Ironside
3 May 2024  #2431

A woman has control over her body

Is the wording around which that phrase is formed weird, what is she paralyzed is she possessed by an evil spirit otherwise? What the hell is that neo-Marxist

freak language used by pedophilia apologists and other lefties freaks under the guise of freedom and rights?
She has no right to kill her baby, simple.

the EU and liberals in the US to Putin's imperialist Russia.

Sure you can all of them are totalitarians.

Novichok
3 May 2024  #2432

Russia has confirmed Ukraine's right to join NATO multiple times.

What was Russia's position on this subject in Feb 2022? This is the ONLY thing that matters.

Putin asked if NATO would accept Russia as a member. He was told to get lost.

At that moment, Russia was declared an enemy and a justification for NATO and the MICC ripping off American taxpayers. So much for history lessons.

She has no right to kill her baby, simple.

Actually, she has the right to do what she wants to her body including the unborn baby and we have a right to tell her to fvck off and to do herself.

She controls her body. We control our doctors.

Lenka
3 May 2024  #2433

she has the right to do what she wants to her body including the unborn baby

Great, there is plenty of medication there.

mafketis
3 May 2024  #2434

NATO

russia doesn't care about NATO... it stresses it in English because that's what western rubes responded to.. they got played by the oldest trick in the book and now they're too embarrassed to admit they were conned....

what a bunch of dopes

Novichok
3 May 2024  #2435

What was that trick? 500,000 dead Ukrainians and 20% of Ukraine in Russian hands?
Those dead Zmen...what a bunch of dopes...dying for a couple of used-up slogans and that "freedom and democracy"...hahahahahahaha...

mafketis
3 May 2024  #2436

What was that trick?

Making gullible west-hating westerners think it was about NATO... russia was going to invade regardless of what Ukraine did or didn't do.

The entire purpose is to kill Ukrainians who don't want to call themselves russian.... all the rest is post hoc (after the fact) rationalization.

Human life has no real value to russians and so they don't care how many russians get killed as long as their army is killing/invading others. It's how they block out the cognitive dissonance of thinking they're this wonderful great country (while they live in garbage and everybody with any power steals from them).

Novichok
3 May 2024  #2437

The entire purpose is to kill Ukrainians who don't want to call themselves Russian....

Another Polish moron who overlooked the fact that Russia would be doing it in Russia already.

Hey, moron, name one Ukrainian in Crimea who was executed by Russia because he didn't want to call himself Russian.

Dealing with morons is so exasperating...Hey, Bobko and Velund, I need relief to have lunch.

Lenka
3 May 2024  #2438

Another Polish

Not Polish you 'genius'.

Tacitus
3 May 2024  #2439

@Ironside

She has no right to kill her baby, simple.

Sure. But she has the right to abort a lumb of cells.

Ironside
3 May 2024  #2440

But she has the right to abort a lump of cells.

It doesn't matter what words you use to dehumanize a baby she still has no right to kill it!+

Alien
3 May 2024  #2441

has no right to kill it!+

It depends on where, e.g. in Germany you can terminate a pregnancy within 3 months after medical advice, then it is not legally prosecuted. Many Polish women take advantage of this opportunity.

Novichok
3 May 2024  #2442

you can terminate a pregnancy

You don't terminate "pregnancy". You terminate human life.

The only difference between "abortion" and premeditated murder is the location of the victim and legality.
Morally, abortions are worse since there are no mitigating factors except the mother's physical life being at risk. The baby being unable to live once born is a separate issue.

But she has the right to abort a lumb of cells.

Dear Dr. Mengele, inside a pregnant woman is a live human being.

Alien
3 May 2024  #2443

Morally

We are not talking about morality, but about the applicable law which is being liberalized all over the world, despite resistance. Ireland is a beautiful example of this.

Novichok
3 May 2024  #2444

but about the applicable law which is being liberalized all over the world, despite resistance. Ireland is a beautiful example of this.

...said an a-hole who escaped the abortionist's knife.

Applicable laws don't come from clouds like rain. They come from what the majority says is moral or immoral. Duh!

Ironside
3 May 2024  #2445

We are not talking about morality,

Who is WE? You and your fleas?
--#

is a beautiful example of this.

No, you are a beautiful example of a scoundrel rotten to the core.

Alien
3 May 2024  #2446

what the majority says is moral or immoral. Duh!

This is not how applicable law is created. Do you need a lesson on the legislature? Take Iron to the lecture.

AntV
3 May 2024  #2447

@Alien

But, does it being a law in and of itself make it right and just?

Novichok
3 May 2024  #2448

you are a beautiful example of a scoundrel rotten to the core.

..who is stupid enough to ignore that for every aborted child, he will get some foreign scum migrant.
You know..." we don't have enough people for our economy ".

The US aborted 60 million live human beings and guess what...it now has 40 million illegals, 10 million just in the last three years...

This is not how applicable law is created. Do you need a lesson on the legislature?

Please tell me...

Alien
3 May 2024  #2449

for every aborted child, he will get some foreign scum migrant.

This is a big and still unresolved problem.

Novichok
3 May 2024  #2450

Resolve it.

Alien
3 May 2024  #2451

@Novichok
Close the border and leave the abortion law as it is. This is the solution to the problem in 5 words.

Bratwurst Boy
3 May 2024  #2452

Na ja....all western govs should do more to sweeten the deal for the women....guarantee for free medicine and education and such. Maybe even pay out a hefty bonus for every child. I'm sure alot more women would chose the baby over abortion if they knew they would have strong support the whole way!

I guess it will even come to that if the birth numbers get lower even more in the West...there is no way the foreigners will make up for that!

AntV
3 May 2024  #2453

@Bratwurst Boy

Western govs haven't?

Tacitus
3 May 2024  #2454

@Bratwurst Boy

.all western govs should do more to sweeten the deal for the women

A child is a responsibility not everyone wants, no matter the incentive. And that is under ideal circumstances when the conception is was consensual.

You can end up with scenarios like this

Brazil: Raped girl, 11, gets abortion after initial refusal

apnews.com/article/abortion-caribbean-brazil-thiago-f24f85f46ccf2f5ffd5bf2e87c57234f

Or what happens if a country has strict anti-abortion laws

spiegel.de/international/world/a-new-right-test-laboratory-the-onerous-abortion-laws-of-paraguay-a-aea3621a-de7e-483f-b6c2-4ec36d2d42e9

Makes for an incredibly depressing read.

jon357
3 May 2024  #2455

guarantee for free medicine and education and such. Maybe even pay out a hefty bonus for every child

Most developed countries do.

Velund
3 May 2024  #2456

Ukraine did everything for peace BEFORE Putin invaded....

I still cannot understand what you mean under "did everything for peace"? How many articles from Minsk II accords was implemented by Ukraine? Or you mean that shelling Donetsk and Luhansk leaving 14000+ dead, vast majority of which was civilians, in 2014-2022 was "everything for peace"?

Or Putin should wait for Gaza scenario in Donetsk before real military invasion using regular army?

Novichok
3 May 2024  #2457

This is the solution to the problem in 5 words.

Them are stupid words. These are smart words:

Close the border and copy Polish abortion laws.

leaving 14000+ dead, vast majority of which was civilians, in 2014-2022 was "everything for peace"?

Those were OK...You know..."freedom and democracy"...

Korvinus
3 May 2024  #2458

theguardian.com/world/article/2024/may/03/ukraine-war-briefing-ukrainians-have-the-right-to-strike-inside-russia-says-david-cameron

Ukraine war briefing: Ukrainians 'have the right to strike inside Russia', says David Cameron​
France's Macron stands firm on potentially sending troops; sanctions on Russian gas leave Gazprom with record annual loss. What we know on day 800

As if Ukraine needed Cameron's permission.

Russia crying about it as usual.
usnews.com/news/world/articles/2024-05-03/kremlin-calls-cameron-statement-on-uk-arms-for-ukraine-a-direct-escalation

Novichok
3 May 2024  #2459

Memo to France: Go for it. Just don't call us when you realize that you fvcked up big time..

Velund
3 May 2024  #2460

Go for it

A return visit to Paris after Napoleon's campaign enriched the French language with the word "Bistro". What and who might another visit enrich?


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