Poland`s aid to Ukraine if Russia invades - part 10

Interesting that Russell has taken a brief diversion from ugly supermarkets selling horsemeat

youtube.com/watch?v=9kWmrz85CRw

Today's video is a parade of captured "NATO" vehicles and for once he alludes to "recent goings on". Other than that he adopts the most neutral tone possible, like he is in a hostage video.

All the other English language youtubers have also been dragged down to this shitfest where they also record these weird videos.

Except Sam's Russian Adventures - he gets out of it by selling crappy Chinese umbrellas in whatever toilet he lives in

youtube.com/watch?v=Caw6FzfjpoU

In thus case his handlers are literally walking behind him.

Hope these Lord Haw Haws are all too ashamed to move home after working for the murderders.

A neutral Ukraine wouldn't need nukes or even an army. Monte Carlo doesn't have either and it's fine.

That was the plan of the West.....till Putin thought otherwise and invaded!

Ukraine definitely needs an army...maybe even nukes....Putin wouldn't had invaded an Ukraine with nukes and/or in NATO, wanna bet?

Why would Putin invade a neutral and friendly country? He didn't invade Finland or the Baltics before they joined NATO.

Because he thinks the Sovietunion was better and wants to rebuild it....with all territories where ethnic Russians live!

A neutral Ukraine without an alliance, without an army to speak of, and most important without any nukes anymore was a good start....or so he thought....and told the world...that "special operation"...no longer than "six weeks", remember?

What do you think this "liberating oppressed Russians from those dastardly Nazis" was about?

And make no error....the moment he got what he wanted, plus a short break, he will start the next "special operation to liberate Russians"!

There are three possibilities to end that:

1.) Ukraine wins and shows Putin that this doesn't work

2.) Putin dies/gets removed from power (replaced by someone not that obsessed with the past)

3.) All countries with a sizable russian minority expell them to lower the danger of Putin's invasion

4.) Your ideas?

But he has invaded Ukraine. A peaceful country. Something to do with Nogbad the Bad in the 9th century according to his interview with Tucker.

@Crow


Of course. The EU repreents everything that is great about Europe.


You mean like China, that is investing more and more into reneweable energy? Yeah fossil fuels will be around 1-2 more decades, but their peak is clearly over. Besides, if Russia wants to supply other parts of the world, it will need to build infrastructure, with money it does not have.


Over the world? Yeah. But evidently Russia no longer has the power to dominate Eastern Europe.

Thanks to Russia many of its' neighbours are now looking to join our alliances. Those who do not are now seeking closer ties with China like Kazakhstan.

A country that plans to join NATO is as peaceful as Cuba was waiting for Soviet arms.


Z runs to the US
U gets Russia-friendly gov
U signs neutrality and non-aggression treaty with Russia
CDL referenda are binding and the territories are part of Russia under the UN self-determination rules.


No. They want the US military welfare. The rest of you are worth shyt.

As someone said, the UK army would barely fill a soccer stadium.

How many combat-ready men do you have today?

PS: Wiki says in Germany live about 3,5 million Russian speakers....I truly hope Putin won't get any ideas!

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russians_in_Germany


Question: How would that look like?

I mean....Ukraine did everything for peace BEFORE Putin invaded....what else could a gov in Kiew do to fall under "russian-friendly"?

Especially once Ukraine lost territory to Russia...I doubt that the remaining Ukraine will be very russian-friendly for a long time to come....

Not to mention that a non-aggression pact needs trust!

Belonging to NATO requires trust, too.
What guarantees does Poland have that the US would come to rescue under Article 5 and risk its very existence?

....good question! Only if that situation arrives that will be answered...

Too late...

twitter.com/MissionArtist/status/1785084685246501139

How would Ukraine "get" a North Nigeria friendly government ? It will be generations before the population has a positive image of the drunk rapists.

You mean have some thieving stooges imposed on them by murderers ?

Like all normal countries they elect their leaders, and without gunmen accompanying them to the polling booth.

You can as well blame Poles for not giving to Hitler demands.
If Russia truly wants peace the path towards it is clear: remove forces from whole territory of Ukraine, pay war reparations, deliver war criminals to the Hague.

Reward an agresor with spoils, be sure he will soon attack again. At least try to think two steps ahead.

We should trust only if it is the only option or if the potential aggressor has no means or reasons to invade.

@Novichok


1. Ukraine and Russia had a friendship and a border-treaty, signed by non other than Putin himself.

2. There were no "referenda" in CDL worthy of the name.

3. UN self-determination does not alllow a country to invade a peaceful neighbour and unilaterally annex territory against the wishes of its' people.

You want Putin to get away with his theft of Ukrainian land. Don't be a weasel, say it as it is.

Oh boy!

1. Ukraine and Russia had a friendship and a border-treaty, signed by non other than Putin himself.
Then U decided to talk shyt about NATO.

2. There were no "referenda" in CDL worthy of the name.
Prove that they were not "worthy". Or do you claim that only Western referenda are "worthy"? Like in Canada, Scotland, and Kosovo?

3. UN self-determination does not allow a country to invade a peaceful neighbor and unilaterally annex territory against the wishes of its people.
Referenda to separate were first
Once separate, CDLs asked the RF to make them part of the RF.

Russia has confirmed Ukraine's right to join NATO multiple times.


That has been explained to you numerous times.

There was a genuin referendum 30 years ago in which Ukrainians in every part of Ukraine, including Crimea, voted against staying part of Russia.


First came the Russian occupiers.

Do as you like, but repeating the same debunked arguments is getting you nowhere.

The issue is: Putin still wants USSR back in some form. At least USSR's level of influence on the world. And many Russians agree with Putin

Russia is going to be defeated, not rewarded for their transgressions.

Russia has more than shown they are more than willing to use force against their neighbors when it suits Russia. The harder and firmer the line is drawn against that behavior the better.

The only one who will decide what Ukraine is willing to give up for peace is Ukraine. And right now they are not willing to cede any territory. As long as they choose to continue to fight to liberate more of their land and stand up to Russia's aggression, we should offer them all the assistance we are able to.

Also, and separate from the resolution of the Ukrainian war, we need to continue to ramp up economic pressure and isolation on Russia until they give up their aggressive ways. That should never end until there is real political change and reform in Russia. The current government of Russia has shown itself to be an enemy to the rest of the world, and it should be treated as such until that changes.

If they are defeated who would then stop Vatican for pushing us all in mental slavery?

@Crow

The Serbs?

Please, don't be so ridiculous. The entire idea of abortion is based on the premise that a mother can kill her child if she really wants to. It's an ethical nonsense. Absurdity. You simply want children to be murdered in their mothers' wombs if the mothers wish to murder them (for whatever reason). Don't be a weasel, say it as it is.

And what's the obsession with the body ownership, the entire "her body" idiocy? Can I kill you, Tacitus, if you ever find yourself in my living room? Hey, it's my living room, I'm the owner and you're inside it. *sighs*


My priorities are absolutely spot on. It is neo-bolsheviks in the EU, wokist anti-culture preachers in the US, and putinist neo-imperialists in Russia who should sort out their priorities.

Well, we are willing but, you know, they here committed already multiple genocides on us and they are well organized. Maybe if Poland help?

So far our alliance with the US is bringing us benefits. How is friendship with Russia working out for ever tinier and tinier Serbia? Soon we will need a magnifying glass to locate you guys on the map.

Well, if trends continue as they are and more Poles become inactive in the Faith, that help may come. You must be patient though, it's going to take time to awake Poland from its Vatican-induced mind-controlled catatonic state.

Strjpljenje, brate!

you don`t understand. Ferdinand didn`t died because we are friends with Russian, to take just this example. He came as self declared master to us, he insulted us on the day dedicated to Svetovid. So he died like a pig, Russians are friends or not. Before him died Bayazit I. We didn`t call them. They come and die. Then comes the followers to avenge them.

How this will end? We shall extinct or we shall prevail. But, if we are to prevail, this is the only way. For what one achieved if he got all the world and lost his soul in the process.

Hear, hear! :)

@Torq


The premise is that a woman has controle over her body and that she can decide whether or not she'll keep the lumb of cell around until it may or may not become a person. Can't say that I morally approve of people using abortion as a contraception, but knowing the evil and tragedies an abortion ban will cause, I am in favour of allowing them under some conditions.


They really are not if you equate the EU and liberals in the US to Putin's imperialist Russia. Which is the topic of the thread.