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Poland's aid to Ukraine if Russia invades - part 11



Korvinus
4 Jun 2024  #1201

The time to "support" Ukraine has passed.

Yes, yes, yes. Ukraine should have just surrendered like a good little slave because otherwise, Russia will be mad. That is nothing new.
The incredibly silly thing is that Russia used to be feared and respected. Now, it is nothing but a laughing stock, a paper tiger shown to be made of wet tissue paper.

As the saying goes: It is better to keep quite and be thought a fool than to open your mouth and remove all doubt. Russia certainly removed all doubt.

It is in best interest of both UKR and Europe that the aggressor, which is Russia gets punished for the attack and does not win any concessions from Ukraine, the invaded party. Only then may peace in Europe may be restored - for years and decades, not months.

Novichok
4 Jun 2024  #1202

Memo to pro-war morons:

When the US is about to bail, it's time to wise up and stop being more pro-war than the US MICC.

That inversion makes you look stupid.

Korvinus
4 Jun 2024  #1203

Memo to pro-war morons:

You kind of forgot that Russia started a war against Ukraine 10 years ago.
Let me educate you on the matter.

We, the Poles hate the Russian state in all its mutations (Imperial, Soviet, neo-Imperial caricature of today) and for good reasons. We hope to see it defeated in Ukraine. Wouldn't mind if Russia gets bankrupt and balkanized too.

The current policy of our government towards the war in Ukraine is supported by a huge majority of the population. Pro-Russian groups are tiny and irrelevant.

Once again, seethe and make impotent threats, dummy.

mafketis
4 Jun 2024  #1204

members of the russian death cult hate everyone... this guy especially wants to destroy the Netherlands..... huh?

x.com/Europa97531/status/1797983087424577616

If it weren't for terrible murderous ideas.... russia wouldn't have any ideas at all....

Bobko
4 Jun 2024  #1205

Nonsense. At which point from before 1945 do you look at Russia and think: That is a Superpower alright

You are a historical ignoramus.

1) Shortly after its creation in the 9th century, the Rus' state became the largest country in Europe by territory, if not by population. The Byzantine Empire found it necessary to ally us, to prevent our attacks on Constantinople. King Henry I of France married our princess Anna Yaroslavna, and the heirs of France thereafter had Russian blood in them. I could go on and on about this period. This is why I said Russia was a superpower from the moment of its creation.

2) Russia absorbed and pushed back the later Mongol yoke.

3) Kicked the ass of the Swedes, who were devastating Central Europe, and were widely regarded as a military superpower.

4) Took territory from the Ottoman Turks whenever we felt like it.

5) Occupied Paris during the Napoleonic Wars, and did more than any other country to stop Bonaparte. This victory made us the "Policeman of Europe" for monarchists and conservatives for the rest of the 19th century. In all events, including the Revolutions of 1848, nobody in Europe could fart without asking Russia for permission.

5) Pre-WWI Russia had the largest territory, largest land army, and one of the largest economies in the world.

If you think Russia emerged as a power only after 1945 - you are twice the idiot that I thought.

Korvinus
4 Jun 2024  #1206

Shortly after its creation in the 9th century

Moscow wasn't even a part of the old Rus state. The state formed by Moscow has no claim to that despite your handwaving.

You also ignore uprisings in 1773-1775 (Pugachevs Rebellion) and Kiev Cossack Insurrection of 1855 both fighting for the restoration of Ukrainian statehood.

Good job drawing a line from Muscowite swamp all the way to modern Russia but ignoring Kievan Rus -> Grand Duchy of Lithuania -> Cossacks -> Ukraine succession of state organizations in the area. There is more to state than licking its iron boot, but a mongol slave like you wouldn't understand.

Crow
4 Jun 2024  #1207

It glades me greatly when see how are Germans and other western Europeans stupid and how things so nicely goes in direction of Serbia`s involvement on the side of the righteous Russians. Morons very much tackling Serbian dic*s and at the right moment dic*s would fall on them. And when our dic*s move, Hungarian, Slovak and then also Polish dic*s would follow our example, in magnanimous orgies on deranged western Europe. Oh what a wild sex that would be.

Bobko
4 Jun 2024  #1208

follow our example, in magnanimous orgies

You are a genius, sir.

Tacitus
4 Jun 2024  #1209

@Bobko

9th century, the Rus' state

Was well below the Eastern Roman Empire and the Empire of Charlemagne in terms of prestige and power. Even the most generous estimates puts its' population in the Middle Ages behind Byzantium, Italy, France and what is now Germany.

And that does not go into the questionable claim of the Kiever Rus being a predecessor to Russia.

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medieval_demography

Kicked the ass of the Swedes

Together with several other allies who did a lot of the fighting. Which is really a historical rule for Russia. They tended to do well with allies, yet poorly when fighting alone. Which counts for a lot countries, but those have no pretentions of being a Super Power.

Took territory from the Ottoman Turks

You mean after they had been softened up by the Habsburgs?

Occupied Paris during the Napoleonic Wars

Together with several other allies. Which really goes to show which country was the superpower back then: The one all the other countries had to side against in order to beat it. And that was not Russia.

could fart without asking Russia for permission.

And then it got humiliated on its' own soil in the Crimean war by an expeditionary army.

Pre-WWI Russia

Russia was the most underdeveloped of all the Five Great Powers in Europe, had suffered an embarassing defeat against Japan and is in the in the running of poorest performance in WWI with Italy and Austria.

Novichok
4 Jun 2024  #1210

The most disgusting POS walking on this planet is a man who urges other men "to die for their country" from the safety of his mother's basement.

Bobko
4 Jun 2024  #1211

suffered an embarassing defeat against Japan

Yeah the same Japan that has an economy bigger than Eastern Europe (and also Germany), produces some of the most critical technologies needed in the modern world, and the same one that fought three superpowers simultaneously and got nuked.

We just fought them first.

Tell me, how Germany could have invaded Japan by sea from the ports of Hamburg and how well it would have gone.

I know you managed to defeat some eastern African tribes. I also know you don't collectively recognize the work of your Askaris once you got cucked by the West.

Source: amp.dw.com/en/how-german-schools-miss-out-countrys-colonial-history/a-55230081

Crow
4 Jun 2024  #1212

@Bobko

They confused and we fu*k them. Such a sex is always the best.

And if Duda just tries to prevent Poles from joining us in the orgies, we stub him on di*k, too. Duda would receive both, Polish and Serbian dic*s. Then he would calm.

Tacitus
4 Jun 2024  #1213

@Bobko

Japan that has an economy bigger than Eastern Europe

That was not the case in 1904. Back then Japan was not even amongst the Top ten economies of the world.

youtu.be/0EWWXQA9D48?si=S0O3u2KCjQONRUNb

We just fought them first

And poorly. With an incompetence that was repeated a few years later in WWI.

Germany could have invaded Japan by sea from the ports

Germany engaged the British fleet on equal terms. Russia could not even take on British fishing boats without suffering casualties.

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dogger_Bank_incident

Korvinus
4 Jun 2024  #1214

They confused and we fu*k them. Such a sex is always the best.

I know an edgy fu*ck like you used to love Nazis, just like you love Russians now. Every murderous animal gets a soft spot in your dark heart. This is just the way you are.

However you have to keep in mind most of us here aren't as deranged as you. We still are able to differentiate between right and wrong, ability that many of you irreversibly lost.

Strange. History teaches us one thing about Serbia: it's getting smaller, not larger, with passing time.

Bratwurst Boy
4 Jun 2024  #1215

That's new, right?

Deep in Russia: Ukraine strikes with US missiles

bild.de/politik/ausland-und-internationales/trotz-putins-warnung-ukraine-schlaegt-in-russland-mit-us-raketen-zu-665f28d4dce5a70d785285d6

Explosive turn of events in the Russia-Ukraine war.

Since last Friday's US permission to use Western weapons against targets on Russian soil, Kiev has radically changed its war tactics. Now Ukrainian observation drones are searching for high-value targets in the Belgorod and Kursk regions, which, once spotted, will be fired upon by Western high-tech weapons.


Is that the long awaited change?

"Since receiving permission from the United States, the Ukrainian army has been shelling the Belgorod region every day with guided munitions from the Himars multiple rocket launcher," complains the Russian war blogger "Military Informant" (600,000 followers on Telegram), showing propulsion elements of M30 rockets , which fell near the village of Maiski, 20 kilometers inside Russia.

The most spectacular target of the Ukrainian Himars attacks on Russian territory so far: A combined S-300/S-400 air defense system - Russia's most modern air defense system - more than 50 kilometers from the Ukrainian border!


That's interesting!

No reaction from Moscow

There has so far been no reaction from the Kremlin, which had threatened last week that the use of Western weapons on Russian soil would amount to an unprecedented escalation.


Miloslaw
4 Jun 2024  #1216

Russia used to be feared and respected. Now, it is nothing but a laughing stock, a paper tiger shown to be made of wet tissue paper.

It is now nothing more than a lapdog of China, totally dependent on their whims and opinions...... Russia is finished.

It is in best interest of both UKR and Europe that the aggressor, which is Russia gets punished

Without question!

Serbia`s involvement on the side of the righteous Russians.

Your words encapsulate the Serbian problem.You are cowards hiding behind what you think is your big brother, but your big brother is weak and corrupt even more so than your own country and now China controls them.......

Is that the long awaited change?

Yes!

There has so far been no reaction from the Kremlin,

Surprise,surprise......

Novichok
4 Jun 2024  #1217

It is now nothing more than a lapdog of China,

What are Poland and Germany?

Let me know when China has military bases in Russia.

Novichok
4 Jun 2024  #1218

Ukraine 'fires first US missile into Russia' just days after President Joe Biden gave permission for the High Mobility Rocket Artillery System to be used to strike inside Russia

Finally!!! Now the question what will Russia do:

1. Get scared, say oops, turn tail, leave CDL and apologize profusely. Or
2. Say, Fvck this bullshlt! Let's finish this damn war NOW!!!

I welcome your predictions...

Alien
5 Jun 2024  #1219

your predictions...

russia will do none of the above.

cms neuf
5 Jun 2024  #1220

They can only "finish this damn war now" by risking their air force - they don't seem willing to do that

Kharkiv offensive shows that ground troops alone can't move more than 10km

I imagine their immediate reaction will be to hit some civilian targets with drones and old missiles and to send a special elite force of trolls to say sanctions arent working.

mafketis
5 Jun 2024  #1221

their immediate reaction will be to hit some civilian targets with drones and old missiles and to send a special elite force of trolls to say sanctions arent working.

you sir, are a tactical..... GENIUS!!!!!!!!

Tacitus
5 Jun 2024  #1222

It is really amazing what the Ukrainians have achieved - having fought the Russians to nearly a standstill - despite the limited aid from the West and the many restrictions placed on top of this.

Meanwhile Russia is fighting a war under uniquely favourable conditions. Direct in its' neighborhour yet its' supply lines remained very safe until recently. Not because they protect them so well, but because the Ukrainians were not allowed to fire at them. Dito for their airports. Yet despite those advantages they are stuck in a war of attrition and their only hope for victory is a second Trump presidenc.

Ironside
5 Jun 2024  #1223

Congratulations.

Do you have dementia yes or no?
Do you take drugs that alter your mental capabilities yes or no?
Are you A Russian troll, yes or no?
If your answer to all those questions is no.
How will you explain your contradictory stances?
Palestinian citizens in Gaza are legitimate targets and should all be killed according to you.
Migrants crossing the US border in the south should be shot at according to you.
While You cry over the dead in the Russia-Ukrainian war like a baby?
Is that because you consider Ukrainians and Russians as white and others are just 'brown' people?
Are you a bona fide racist - yes or no?
That last question is rhetorical because if you are not a racist you are a criminally stupid moron and as such waste of time.
---

Thanks to that attitude Poland

Can you calm down a little/ What do you need all that exuberance for?
By the way, need to be reminded that Poland was attacked by Russia in 2021 with their hybrid tactic and migrant waves across the Belarusian border.

Crnogorac3
5 Jun 2024  #1224

Noctis Draven ✅
@DravenNoctis

Many Americans are surging to support Russia. It is becoming an epidemic for the US to be honest. Many can't understand why Americans are turning to Russia for inspiration.

The answer is clear, take me for example. I am an American veteran, Texan by the grace of God and I stand with Russia. I used to be a passionate conservative, Republican and I spent years of my life defending Trump.

Now, I couldn't care less what happens in American politics. Biden wins? I don't care, Trump wins? Doesn't matter, dog catcher or sandwich maker wins the election? Un-important. Hillary wins, or Washington rises from the grave to win the presidency? Couldn't care less. Trump goes to jail? Obama, Clinton? Really Doesn't matter.

The reason myself and so, so many Americans are disengaging from American matters and politics is multifaceted. To begin, we know the voting system is rigged, a complete and utter sham, we do not pick our leaders.

In addition, we know that whomever does get elected regardless if it's low office or president, they all pledge allegiance to Israel far above America. We know the face, name and letter next to the name has no importance over policy or the direction of America. It will still lead to wars, higher cost of living, open borders, higher taxes and more money flooded to other countries that are not the USA.

So we realize, if voting doesn't matter, if too many people are still asleep and can't see this, and if nothing will ever change, what's the point in caring or even following American politics? It's irrelevant, America is a fallen country.

So we look to Russia, a land that still matters, a true leader, a real election process, and a people and culture actually valued and protected by their leaders and by the grace of God not falling to a knee for Israel. We see a strong nation and people, traditional values promoted, family, work, culture, and willing to protect it at all cost.

The only thing America is willing to die for seems to be Israel and Ukraine, so what is there to follow or be passionate about here to be honest?

This is why so many of us flock to Russia, they still are alive, still not fallen, still have a fighting chance. It's really not hard to understand at all.

You call me traitor, I just smile as I watch you still fighting over gender, bathrooms, pronouns, you're president on trial, the police you back oppress you, putting on your masks, having your vote stolen, your borders flooded and your money sent away to other lands and your sons and daughters die in endless wars. Your inflation, dying economy, ever gay society, sick people and lowest academic scores on earth. You keep it up America, you're doing just great. Don't forget, vote Trump! Or Biden! Or whoever, who the hell cares 🤷‍♂️ meanwhile, Russia is thriving.
👌

x.com/DravenNoctis/status/1797930409776296394

Velund
5 Jun 2024  #1225

Poland was attacked by Russia in 2021 with their hybrid tactic and migrant waves across the Belarusian border.

It was China, through Russian territory and Belarussian border.

mafketis
5 Jun 2024  #1226

So... russia and belarus are so weak and pathetic they can't stop big bad China from using them..... noted.

Velund
5 Jun 2024  #1227

they can't stop

They can, but why? Anything that distract polish elites from regular morning blowjobs provided for their London masters - good, nervous sons of a brits may make mistakes that will be used. ;)

jon357
5 Jun 2024  #1228

russia and belarus are so weak and pathetic

Weak, pathetic and venal.

Velund
5 Jun 2024  #1229

It's finally happening! ✊

(t.me/montyan2/7895)

The first clashes between different groups of sorosites took place in the USA. June has traditionally become a "month of pride" for LGBT representatives in Western countries. It is unclear what they are proud of, because they have no significant scientific, sports or any other socially useful achievements. Faggots are proud of the mere fact of their existence, and at the same time obsessively demand from everyone else to be proud of living next to such wonderful, proud of themselves people. 🤡

But this is about something else. Right now there are just as many other actions - in support of Palestine - actively taking place in Western countries. Before LGBT pride month, all these gays, lesbians and trans people with non-binary and genderfluid "something" were actively going to all the pro-Palestinian rallies against the common Jewish enemy. But then their proud pride month rolled around - and the pro-Palestinian activists took offense at their gay comrades-in-arms of yesterday, engaging in mass beatings with them right in the middle of America's liberal metropolises. 😂

The essence of the claims is obvious: with their colorful carnivals, gays, first, distract the attention of the press and the people from the horrible genocide being carried out by the Jewish satraps in miserable Palestine; and second, how can one sing, dance and have fun at all, when such a horrible horror is happening to Palestinian children and old people every day? 🤬

And now the queers have to make a difficult decision: either to stop their carnival processions and instead continue protesting against the goddamn Jewish genocidaires, or to prepare for constant clashes with their yesterday's friends.

Agreed, the choice is categorically difficult, and in this battle between warriors of light and warriors of good, traditionally I wish victory to each side. 💪

jon357
5 Jun 2024  #1230

What a nutty rant.


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