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Poland's aid to Ukraine if Russia invades - part 16



Tacitus
24 Nov 2024  #811

@cms neuf

Ah yes, the NKs and the Chinese and NNs and Iranians don't want freedom

Yeah. Don't know how anyone can claim this with a straight face when the last noteworthy protest movement in Iran happened only 2 years ago. Sadly the Iranian regime has become very proficient in brutally crushing any opposition and is now busy murdering anyone even remotely connected (or not) to the protests as a warning.

Besides, no matter what the Russian people may want or not, they have no right to prevent other people from living as they want. If Russians want to live in a poor dystopia, that is up to them. Just don't drag others with you.

pawian
24 Nov 2024  #812

If Russians want to live in a poor dystopia, that is up to them. Just don't drag others with you.

Yes, but Russians are clever and they know they have to attack and occupy other countries so that they can move there and live a better life than in their Russian shythole. Best seen in the Baltics of 20th century or Poland in 19th.

PolAmKrakow
24 Nov 2024  #813

@Tacitus
The US definition of freedom is different than the UK definition. The Turkish definition is different than Polish. The last Iran protest two years ago clearly was not supported by a majority of Iranian people. There is a large minority that support their fight, but not a majority. Since all the talk of democracy here, why doesnt the majority of Iranian people count?

A new report today in USA today shows a poll of 52% Ukranian people support negotiations with a loss of territory. So why doesnt their voice count in this? Not listening to the majority is certainly not "democratic". Why dont people outside of Ukraine listen to the majority of Ukraine people? Because it doesnt fit their agenda.

jon357
24 Nov 2024  #814

Because

But, but, but.....

It's clear that r*SSia is a clear and present danger to anywhere within missile reach of its borders.

They have threatened to attack countries (I'm thinking of the U.K.) among the most stable and prosperous in the world.

They have cut communications cables in the Baltic. This is an act of war.

They have sent explosive packages in the mail in Poland and Germany. This is an act of war.

They have paid people to burn down Ukrainian owned warehouses in London. This is an act of war.

They have burnt down a shopping mall in Warsaw. This is an act of war.

And of course they carried out a chemical weapons attack in the U.K.

They must lose and be seen to lose. If not, they will be emboldened. This no longer concerns only Ukraine or only countries unfortunate enough to border r*SSia.

As I say, this is a clear and present danger.

mafketis
24 Nov 2024  #815

a poll of 52% Ukranian people support negotiations with a loss of territory. So why doesnt their voice count in this

Why negotiate when you know the other party won't honor their commitments?

What guarantees can anyone give in the face of the next russian invasion?

Velund
24 Nov 2024  #816

Ah yes, the NKs and the Chinese and NNs and Iranians don't want freedom

They (vast majority) definitely do NOT want freedom in the perverted form you believe it should be. They have their own understanding of freedom, and trying to deny them the right to choose their own definition of freedom is reason enough to knock the teeth out of anyone who tries to force them to accept someone else's definition of freedom by violence.

Velund
24 Nov 2024  #817

But, but, but.....

Long list, but zero proofs. Litvinenko case - zero verifiable proofs, unpublished coroner inquest and "secret" witnesses in court. Skripals case - zero verifiable proofs. Cables in Baltic - zero proofs.

And "countries, most stable and prosperous in the world" - it was in the past....

cms neuf
24 Nov 2024  #818

I am talking about the freedom to say what you want, read what you want, work in a job you like, take your kids for a hamburger at the weekend

Might be perverted to a North Nigerian, but for us in Poland it's called every day life.

More news about these Yemenis BTW, turns out they were forced to sign R*****n language contracts at gunpoint, then sent off with no training, no equipment, to face the best western weapons. The North Nigerians contempt for all human life is sick.

jon357
24 Nov 2024  #819

Long list, but zero

A long list and all proven to the satisfaction of the countries involved.

Stop trying to deny things Orc Troll. Nobody believes you...

most stable and prosperous in the world" - it was in the past....

All statistics about the economy and crime levels prove you wrong. Some countries have queues to get in, others have to prevent people leaving.

Now remind us what percentage of r*SSians don't have indoor toilets, and how many have been sent to die in a fruitless invasion of Ukraine.

PolAmKrakow
24 Nov 2024  #820

freedom to say what you want, read what you want, work in a job you like, take your kids for a hamburger

These are the freedoms the US Democratic party was trying to take away. Freedom of speech, freedom of the press, and mass regulation of business including burger places. Freedom of speech was censored with the Biden admin, so was freedom of the press. Yet those here who support the war continuing in Ukraine largely hoped that the Biden policies would be carried on by a Kumala win. I am not saying you're wrong in your opinion, all I am saying is that we collectively do not know what other people may or may not want. And we dont have the right to force our opinion on them.

Crow
24 Nov 2024  #821

It is the last hour for us Slavs ie Sarmatians, to unite, because only together can we survive the attack of the army of darkness!

Degenerates, mental mutants, heretics, cannibalistic nazis, satanists, people with evil fathers and even worse mothers, failed states that propagate gender change and human behavior like animals, promote eating bugs, propose mustachioed women and bald men, false spiritual leaders that want to destroy our children and turn them into shameless faggots and lesbians as if it were something completely normal, that passionately desire to separate us from our own ancestors, to make us forget our native language and suggest other sickening malformations.

cms neuf
24 Nov 2024  #822

Shut up about Kumala, The Democrats and the rest of this gowno. We don't care - you just had an election so you should be happy

This thread is about North Nigerias illegal invasion of it's peaceful democratic neighbors

Novichok
24 Nov 2024  #823

Long list, but zero proofs.

When the accused is Russia, no proof is required.

When the accuser is Russia, no proof is good enough.

FY, Russia haters...

pawian
24 Nov 2024  #824

Russia haters...

Rejecting imperial Russia is the symbol of utter decency among humans and apes. Simple.

Novichok
24 Nov 2024  #825

Memo to Putin:

I forgive you, my friend, in advance you if you drop one on PF Russia haters in Warsaw - with special emphasis on LGBTs. I know you don't like them.

The rest will be classified as collateral damage...oops, sorry...

The US and its best friend, Israel, did it many times so it's OK for Russia to do the same.

Best wishes,

Novi

pawian
24 Nov 2024  #826

in Warsaw

Why only in Warsaw?? They can be anywhere.....

Best wishes,

Don`t forget to lick the balls! hahaha buhahaha

mafketis
24 Nov 2024  #827

trying to deny them the right to choose their own definition of freedom is reason enough to knock the teeth out of anyone

I agree! So why does russia want to deny Ukrainians the right to choose their own kind of freedom? At least you recognize that other countries have reason to knock russia's fangs out.
I don't care what happens inside russia at all... I just don't want russian imperial expansion beyond its internationally recognized borders.

Crow
24 Nov 2024  #828

Dear God, help my Slavic brethren notice their error in front of our common ancestors and start talk seriously about united Slavic State or Slavic Commonwealth or Alliance at least. Or we should all join in Eurasian Union. Whatever.

Help us God because we are obviously very stupid and manipulative beings. Enlighten us with Your wisdom. Oh Dear Lord.

Amen

Velund
24 Nov 2024  #829

So why does russia want to deny Ukrainians the right to choose their own kind of freedom?

Because one of their publicly declared "freedom ingridients" is "Russians to the knives". We cannot allow biological carriers of such kind of freedom definition to exist, regardless of their nationality.

Crow
24 Nov 2024  #830

Because one of their publicly declared "freedom ingridients" is "Russians to the knives".

See. That is what Rome did to them side by side with Germanics.

For the same reason they created Croats out from Catholic Serbs.

And now, Constantinople support all that. Same as Constantinople never condemned Greek genocide on Serbs after ww1 and Rome never condemned Croat genocide on Serbs during ww2.

Fortunately they didn`t manage to poison relationship between Catholic and Orthodox Poles. Neither they made Poles hate Serbians.

Rome and Constantinople, they are all the same. As Italians say to Greeks, `Una faca, una rasa.`

What we need is Slavic Orthodox Church or just Slavic Christian Church. So, we part our path with hostile, non-Slavs, heretics and degenerates.

Novichok
24 Nov 2024  #831

So why does russia want to deny Ukrainians the right to choose their own kind of freedom?

Russia is liberating Russia from the aggressor, the UA, because NATO is still sullivating after Crimea and Donbass.

Would you like to see the map of NATO bases as it changed between 1990 and now?

BTW, take your "sovereign and independent" and shove it up your behind.

Now you know so don't ask again...

Alien
24 Nov 2024  #832

Russia is liberating Russia

Let russia first free itself from its regime.

Crow
24 Nov 2024  #833

Russia is fine and will be fine. Same as Poland.

We Serbians will make sure of it. Our common enemies will fall.

Miloslaw
24 Nov 2024  #834

@Crow
@Velund
@Novichok

It is clear to me that there is very little difference between Putin and Hitler.
Both are authoritarian rulers with a grudge for what they perceive as historical crimes against their countries.
Both share a twisted view of history.
Both claim that "Outsiders" are threatening their nation.Both Hitler and Putin pointed to "The West".Hitler targeted Jews and Slavs.Putin is targeting supposed Nazis in Ukraine.... Zelensky is a Jew.....
Both want to invade and take over land that they claim was theirs, but in reality, never really was.
Both are completely brutal and care nothing for innocent lives lost.
Both are prepared to send their troops into "Meat Grinder" situations "For the greater good!".
Both are blinded by their ideology and can't see their own stupidity.

If you support Putin now, you would have supported Hitler in the thirties......you three are guilty as charged.... Putin lovers = Hitler lovers.

Crow
24 Nov 2024  #835

@Miloslaw

Good night.

Miloslaw
24 Nov 2024  #836

Good night.

Good riddance to Nazi loving scum!

Novichok
24 Nov 2024  #837


That was very nice of you, dear Russia...

See you soon...

Novichok
24 Nov 2024  #838

France greenlights Ukrainian strikes deep inside Russia
Paris places no "red lines" on its support for Kiev, Foreign Minister Jean-Noel Barrot has said


Putin thanks you, Jean, for this attempt to jack up his popularity and help him win this war sooner.

Only a Western mancunt can think that a couple of rockets going boom in Russia will make Russians fall to their knees and beg for forgiveness.

I am not Russian but my money is on the exact opposite.

FYI, Eiffel Tower coordinates: 48.8584° N, 2.2945° E

Velund
25 Nov 2024  #839

Zelensky is a Jew.....

Tell us, who was members of Judenrats of jewish ghettos in Europe during WWII, who between other tasks prepared groups of Jews for transportation to death camps by order of german comendatures?

Novichok
25 Nov 2024  #840

ell us, who was members of Judenrats of jewish ghettos i

This reminds me about Lenin and the rope...


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