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Poland's aid to Ukraine if Russia invades - part 16



Crow
25 Nov 2024  #841

@Miloslaw

Good morning.

Good riddance to Nazi loving scum!

Why do you shame yourself and our common ancestors with childish comments?

Reprimand yourself with a few prayers.

Here is the morning song for you... compilation of two.. the second one is from around 4:30... `I was born at Easter and baptized at the day of St. George`



Find peace. Then enlighten your soul even more with this song of Racowice girls..



jon357
25 Nov 2024  #842

If you support Putin now, you would have supported Hitler in the thirties

Without a doubt, and some harbour morbid fantasies of authoritarian governments, ethnocentrism and lack of democracy even now.

Usually very weak individuals in real life.

Bobko
25 Nov 2024  #843

If you support Putin now, you would have supported Hitler in the thirties...

Thirties, schmirties...

People may have been on the fence about Hitler in the 30s, but once things got into full swing it was quite hard to find a Hitler supporter.

Maybe somewhere in Indonesia, or in India you had massive Hitler support - but that's because they were angling for independence from the Dutch and the British (these ended up being pretty well placed hopes).

Also, Hitler had popular support in the Middle East - but again this was largely a product of local Anglophobia.

I think that's it.

By year three of WW2, I don't think there were very many people left in Russia, US, France, or Britain that were big fans of Hitler.

Why then, is it year three of our war in Ukraine, and every day we gain more and more supporters - exactly from the West (the East and South supported us from the beginning)?

Polls show that more than half of the American electorate wants nothing more to do with Ukraine.

This is probably because Putin is not Hitler, and enough time has gone by for everyone to realize that the charges of genocide are fake news. That, or we're taking a REALLY long break after Bucha, before plunging back into the murder business.

It's clear that r*SSia is a clear and present danger to anywhere within missile reach of its borders.

Do you smoke crack? Your country has literally just fired cruise missiles into my country.

Every expert says that you cannot fire a Storm Shadow, a SCALP, or an ATACMS without input from the manufacturer country. This means, somewhere, in some room, some Brit is punching in targeting data into a datalink, and those coordinates are located in Russia.

F*cking breathtaking hypocrisy hearing from a Brit about who is a clear and present danger.

BTW Jon, did you notice that for some extremely strange reason Russia stopped shelling Donetsk with artillery once the frontlines had been moved some dozens of kilometers away from the city?

It's ok though, because we're still shelling our own soldiers stationed at the Zaporozhye Nuclear Power Plant on a daily basis.

*Ultra Sarcasm*

jon357
25 Nov 2024  #844

Your country has literally just fired cruise missiles into my country.

It hasn't...

we're still shelling our own soldiers

The more orc casualties the better.

Are you still using North Koreans? Perhaps you should join up, given that you're of military age.

Bobko
25 Nov 2024  #845

It hasn't...

Yes it has.

That's why Scholz doesn't wanna give the Taurus, because he's a square German who likes to play fair... and isn't quite as demented as you are.

What would you call it, when someone:

1) Builds a missile

2) Provides it to your enemy

3) Provides them with satellite reconnaissance, aiding in the selection of targets (Ukraine cannot do this herself)

4) Sends their technicians to assist in integrating the missiles onto legacy Soviet airframes

5) Physically inputs the targeting data into a secure data link available for NATO forces only, as well as highly classified terrain contour maps, which are necessary for the real time adjustments to the missiles flight path.

What do you call that? Mailing someone a Christmas card? You wouldn't mind then if we start helping your enemies in the same way?

All you need to do to understand why Britain and France are behaving extremely recklessly, is look at the much more sober behavior of Scholz. He has already spelled everything out - down to why the missiles cannot be fired by the Ukrainians without aid from outside.

Bobko
25 Nov 2024  #846

Honestly gonna miss Scholz when he goes.

He seems uniquely unpopular. Everyone hates him - left, right, and center.

Maybe he did something terrible in Germany, and so deserves all this hate... But on Russia I think he has been head and shoulders above the rest in Europe.

With his mad decisions post election, Biden is joining the Starmer and Macron club.

Novichok
25 Nov 2024  #847

Yes it has.

This is where I would have stopped except that my version would be even shorter...Like "FY".

You already know how much I enjoy your posts so take mine as a compliment, not criticism.

Bobko
25 Nov 2024  #848

Like "FY".

Jon's got Ukrainian family apparently, so I don't mind him as much as the other tourists.

That France and Britain have been running an undeclared war on Russia is a fact.

America isn't even worth discussing. Biden's actions are so ridiculous, that he's managed a rare feat - uniting both the left and right in condemnation.

This is why I'm not harping on America so much - even though it's the conductor of this whole war orchestra. For the longest time Biden seemed to be careful and calculating - despite hate from his own camp on the left, and Ukraine cheerleaders here on PF.

Now grandpa is mentally checked out, except for his commitment to serving Trump a turd sandwich of an international situation on January 20th.

Just have to grit our teeth and wait for him to leave. Then we can deal with the French and English.

cms neuf
25 Nov 2024  #849

Will it take 3 days to deal with the French and English ?

Just like the dipsomaniac invasion of Ukraine

A surprise attack might be difficult. There are a few North Nigerian bossmen who will give advance warning to their kids and accountants in London or their mistresses in Paris.

Bobko
25 Nov 2024  #850

Will it take 3 days to deal with the French and English ?

Putin said we will target their military facilities only - and with advance warning.

I would love to see the "expression of grave concern" that would follow out of the Foreign Office.

Hitting them while Biden is in power is probably not the best idea. A lot of damage could be done before January 20th.

I expect they will moderate their own approach the closer it is to Trump's inauguration, and all this business can be avoided.

But if they decide to ignore Putin's warnings, and disregard the incoming Trump administration - they will only have themselves to blame for everything that would happen after.

cms neuf
25 Nov 2024  #851

Ah right

With your outer space missiles ?

It's a wonder that with this awesome capability, your troops are all stuck drinking bimber in a freezing ditch 7km outside Pokrovsk

Bobko
25 Nov 2024  #852

It's a wonder that with this awesome capability

It's enough to destroy some warehouse building several thousand kilometers away, within approximately 8-10 minutes.

It's not quite suited to work against enemy personnel, unless tipped with a different warhead than TNT.

Crow
25 Nov 2024  #853

I contemplated.

We Serbians are also very happy people. Only we Serbians can say we are loved by both, Poles and Russians. The feeling? Very deep. Deeply penetrating. Exciting, to say the least.

PolAmKrakow
25 Nov 2024  #854

I wonder if all of the Z supporters and name callers here would agree to leave PF forever if when peace is made that Russia not only keeps Crimea, but most if not all of the other territory they have taken. I wonder if the war mongers here on PF will admit that all these men died for nothing once peace is made. Given all the technical information available to the public now regarding all the targeting and programing being done by NATO for Ukraine it is a huge lesson in self control that Putin has not turned a Ukranian or European city to glass. All the keyboard tough guys here calling country's and people names have yet to run to Ukraine and join the legion. Hilarious to read some real pussies here who would never fight anything continue to support men being killed for nothing.

Bobko
25 Nov 2024  #855

not all of the other territory they have taken. I wonder if the war mongers here on PF will admit that all these men died for nothing

They won't admit sh*t - they'll start telling you about how Russians are doing a poor job at reconstruction, and how "Ukraine is now a dump".

They will not connect this in their brain to their actions from the recent past.

Instead, they will all say - "You brake it - you own it".

Nobody will stop to think who aided in the "breaking".

PAK - you can never win against these people. They will always come up with cleverly balanced notions of why it's you that's the orc.

Crow
25 Nov 2024  #856

I want that Zelenski stop with assimilation of the Serbians of Ukraine. I want that he just fu*k off and go in some other place and form his Ukrainian nation from some other people.

jon357
25 Nov 2024  #857

Yes it has.

No it hasn't. The only belligerents in this illegal and unprovoked invasion are r*SSia, Noth Korea and the defenders, Ukraine.

What do you call that?

Arms sales, something that r*SSia does (or did until other countries saw how ineffective their weaponry is).

Will it take 3 days to deal with the French and English ?

I suspect you mean British, however they'd be very well advised not to mess with either Britain, or France or any other nuclear state. Even in their 'five days to the Rhine' pr whatever it was called, the Soviet plans were to nuke West Germany but not the U.K. or France since they know very well that every missile will be fired back and that there are no missile silos for the, to destroy.

Especially one that has tens of thousands of the kids of their elite attending private schools and universities. Basically a human shield whose parents have happily paid for them to be there.

Bobko
25 Nov 2024  #858

since they know very well that every missile will be fired back and that there are no missile silos

Jon - for the tenth time - only military facilities will be hit.... AND WITH NON-NUCLEAR MISSILES.

If you decide to plunge us all into Hades afterwards - that's on you completely, and we will bear no culpability.

Russia - to this point - has never said we will hit your cities with nuclear weapons.

Crow
25 Nov 2024  #859

People, prepare plan B. This is it.

Serbia on High Alert: Vucic Reinforces Shelters as Ukraine War Threatens to Spill Over | TN World



Novichok
25 Nov 2024  #860

If you decide to plunge us all into Hades afterwards -

Let's recall that US would rather lose a war and bury 58,000 men than use a nuke that would end that war in 24 hours and save 58,000 men.

But, hey,...good relations with the world's worst shitholes was more important than 58,000 of America's best...

only military facilities will be hit

They already hate you, Russians...Bomb everything taller than 6 feet...

Bobko
25 Nov 2024  #861

But, hey,..

You may be in a nuclear war soon courtesy of Jon from Yorkshire.

Novichok
25 Nov 2024  #862

Jon from Yorkshire.

Send him an email that he is urgently needed in Yorkshire and when he gets there bomb Yorkshire.

Paint "From Novi" on the bomb.

mafketis
25 Nov 2024  #863

You may be in a nuclear war soon courtesy of Jon from Yorkshire

mafketis: Jon! What did we tell you about starting nuclear wars???!??!

jon: don't start nuclear wars...

mafketis: And what did you just do?

jon: ...... (looking down).... tried to start a nuclear war....

mafketis: And who did you try to start a nuclear war with?

jon: ....... russia.....

mafketis: Oh... that's okay.... carry on!

Crow
25 Nov 2024  #864

People.

What would you when nuke fall somewhere in Europe?

Bobko
25 Nov 2024  #865

@mafketis

Maf you know perfectly well how your strategy has bankrupted itself.

You should have been with us.

mafketis
25 Nov 2024  #866

What would you when nuke fall somewhere in Europe?

Kiss Srbija Goodbye! and Good Riddance!

And duck and roll.... cause russia would cease to exist in about a half an hour.....

Novichok
25 Nov 2024  #867

jon: ....... russia.....

There is no such thing as a nuke war with Russia.

We can smell it when they fart in China.

jon357
25 Nov 2024  #868

only military facilities will be hit.... AND WITH NON-NUCLEAR MISSILES.

They won't, and it would be an act of war against a nuclear state. You have no grounds to attack the U.K. or any other western country.

Doing so would be the biggest escalation since 1939 and the end result would be no r*SSia at all.

And who did you try to start a nuclear war with

At home in Warsaw, I've got a Geiger Counter and a wind up radio/charger/light both in a Faraday cage. That and iodine pills. We live near a former military airfield and although there's a hill in between, it's practical with a pariah state like r*SSia constantly sabre-rattling.

Seriously, even Vladolf Putler and his drunken 'generals' aren't stupid enough to directly target a major western country.

Bobko
25 Nov 2024  #869

You have no grounds to attack the U.K. or any other western country.

How can you be serious?

Russia has already represented that if we attack the UK practically nobody will die.

jon357
25 Nov 2024  #870

As I say, you have no grounds to.

And haven't done so since the orc 'generals' know that such a ridiculous decision would be fatal for them and their families. NATO is stronger than d*SSia and its axis of evil.


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