Poland's aid to Ukraine if Russia invades - part 16

You are killing my citizens. That's ground enough.

In addition, as in the post above, we have represented that no innocent British will suffer.

If you reply with nukes - it's all on you.

You invaded a sovereign country so stop your b|tch whining and sack up.

russia had it made... and it threw it away to try to be an 'empire' or 'great power' or some such other retarded idea.... you made your bed, now lie in it.

That is legitimate opinion. Moronic but, legitimate. Thank you.

As a free person - how did I "make my bed"?

You made it for me.

Call it what it is, maf. It's a proxy war, and you desperately want us to lose.

All your Kabuki theater, it was all for show.

Don't be silly. Ukraine are defending themselves. Rather well too. The only country killing r*SSian 'citizens' is r*Ssia itself.

No western country is a belligerent in your invasion and it would be highly unwise for you to provoke any country into becoming one.


Since all are innocent and are not part of this war, none will 'suffer'. r*SSia, however, would have the full force of NATO against them, were they to attack a member state.

a russian pretending to care about russian lives lost due to the russian government.... rich!


russians are such crybullies..... russia invaded and you support it

it's not a proxy war, it's a war between freedom and tyranny (the battle ground of WWIII which russia started)

I'm on the side of freedom. You're not.

Since we WILL warn you, you could hypothetically bring the number of casualties down to zero - all the way down to telling the security guard to take a night off.

Our aim is stop you from making weapons which you send to our Ukranian friends.

Also, it is to scare you a little bit, so maybe you decide it's not worth getting involved in our fight.

Meanwhile, you are crawling out of your own skin, hatching plans how to destroy us.

WTF.

Mind your own business.

It WILL do you no good. Not even r*SSia is stupid enough to attack a NATO state that isn't a belligerent in this war.


It doesn't work. You should know that by now...


Orc paranoia.


Perhaps you r*SSians should and get out of Ukraine: it is a sovereign state and not yours, something you should have long ago realised. The age of empires is dead. Get over that.

It is objectively not when you lot are planning seaborne attacks and missile strikes.

F*ck off Jon. You know you're doing wrong.

No, we don`t. We are doing the right thing in promoting 10 Russistans instead of 1 now. hahaha

Ukraine may well be doing that, however the only parties to your illegal and unprovoked invasion are the invaders, r*SSia, their co-belligerent, North Korea and the innocent defenders, Ukraine.


Don't be daft.

Meanwhile, the r*SSian economy is tanking, butter is kept under lock and key in supermarkets, the male life expectancy is plummeting and you've killed a whole generation of young men.

And all those pathetic little acts of hybrid warfare against the free world have been discovered and publicised.

WTF????

WHY?????

Ach ja.....just got that in my feed:


Seriously? What did I miss???

I need a coffee.....

The usual orcery.


Nicer than vodka...

*phew*

and

...definitely!

Yep - the North Nigerians are about to make the leap from paying hobos to torch derelict shopping malls and on to more ambitious stuff - precision missiles that come from outer space and will wipe out French factories at the touch of a button

Do you love Siberia?

Every society has its dark corners. You would get yourself in Siberia man. The seals, penguins and polar wolves will fock you.

Penguins ?

Oh.

A cargo plane of the German company DHL crashed in Lithuania.


Pray for them. They have small penises.

But how you provoke, and considering rumors about locals, well.... ask kindly for the oil

Sabotage

Russians are not "Free People".... oh I see, you live in the USA......


And who do you think caused that to happen, for no reason?


Bobko is indeed, being very silly to the point of being obnoxious.


That is rather pathetic, isn't it?


Agreed, and they will be destroyed if they do.And they know it.So they are bluffing.


Sounds like Serbia to me, neither are places I would visit.


Probably.

We will see what happens when Trump takes over.A strong world leader at last.

Quoting the best news source ever - RT.com:

The idea that the West should not rule out sending troops to Ukraine has been floated by French President Emmanuel Macron on several occasions this year.

Hey, azhole, you either fight or STFU. Look up "Napoleon" before you make the final decision. Or call Trump.

Continuing...

He also suggested that this could only happen if the Ukrainian frontline completely collapsed and Kiev made such a request, while framing his statements as part of a "strategic ambiguity" approach needed to keep Russia at bay.

That was clever, azhole...When it's "completely collapsed", you will see this flag over Kiev...almost like French...

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To announce end of Germanic dominance in Lithuania?


Come. Test your nerves.

With all targeting of ATCMS, Storm Shadow and other western missiles coming directly from and through the US and UK military, this is in my opinion direct involvement. And that seems to be the opinion of a lot of experts. At the very minimum it is a confirmation that this is simply a proxy war, and Ukraine is only a tool for its implementation. Anyone arguing otherwise is simply a fvcking moron. So moronic they would probably argue that Manson was innocent because he wasnt there at the Tate murder even though he directed it and pulled all the strings.

@Bobko
Its disappointing to see some otherwise intelligent people get carried away with their emotional karen trapped inside them while communicating on this forum. I know nothing will change, and my participation here now is really about irritating them and entertaining myself now. Once the war is over this board will slowly whither away.

They know it very well, and get subtle reminders all the time that the free world is ahead of them in everything.

They also know that mutually assured destruction means exactly that.

Ukraine outlasts Russia as long as they don't waiver and western support doesn't waiver. Russia has not been able to really advance in a strategically meaningful way. Many of Russia's critical military resources will be running out in 2026, with several of those effects to be seen in 2025. Especially as Russia has increased the pace of attacks and resource usage since September and is burning through them faster than ever.

That is why Russia's entire theory of victory is to try to convince the west to stop supporting Ukraine by trying to use the dual narratives of "inevitable Russian victory" and "Escalation to WW3". Neither of which are accurate narratives by the way.

The only way, if China chooses to really heavily back Russia, they can keep Russia in the war. And also there is a small, but still possible, chance that Russia will succeed with their efforts to significantly reduce western support for Ukraine. So I would give Russia a small chance of victory at this point rather than no chance.

Very clear Korvinus - the most sensible thing on this forum since Atch's Christmas thread

North Nigerians have spent 18 months to conquer 3 market towns - Bakhmut,Adviika and Pokrovsk. While I don't believe they are losing 1000 troops a day, I do know their economy can't withstand another 18 months of sanctions and waste.

Let's assume that's true.... did it start as that and do you regret your earlier support for Ukraine?

Or did it turn into that? And in which case, why do you want the west to lose?

@mafketis
I still support Ukraine. Supporting Ukraine is about its survival and people surviving. I dont GAF about some imaginary territorial lines on a map. I am a realist. And the reality is that Ukraine cannot push Russia out of the territory it has claimed. The reality is that Ukraine has already lost 40% of the territory it took in Kursk. The reality is that Russia is advancing on every inch of the front lines. Thats it, just facts. So why have more men die needlessly now?

@Korvinus
The war will end in 2025. It wont make it to 2026, and once US support is pulled or lowered gradually, the war is over. Putin simply needs to be patient for another 7 weeks.

What makes you think russia will accept Ukrainian survival? russia doesn't want a country called 'Ukraine' to exist, it doesn't want people who call themselves 'Ukrainians' to exist and it doesn't want a language called 'Ukrainian' to exist.

How do you negotiate with that?

What is the answer when russia invades again? Give away more land?

Taking into account that Ukraine has only received about half of what has been promised, what kind of security guarantees is the US prepared to live up to?

I have seen estimates that one fifth of the Ukrainian soldiers have fled the frontline - I think it is possible that the Ukrainian frontline collapses soon - how in this circumstances do you envision beating Russia in this war and preventing it from ever invading Ukraine again?