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Poland's aid to Ukraine if Russia invades - part 29



cms neuf
9 Jun 2026  #241

You talk bollox as usual.It's not about how much you spend but what percentage of GDP you spent.

What buys more ammo ? 47 million or 38 million ?

You can't put a percentage in the bank

Paulina
10 Jun 2026  #242

Maybe compare Poland to its potato head neighbor in Belarus - next door, similar levels of development and GDP in 1989

Yes, exactly :)))))

And it's not just about economy/being rich anyway.

Btw, I haven't heard about Poles mass migrating to Morocco or Kazakhstan. It's usually the other way around, if anything.

But I'll deal with Bobko later, I have no time now :)

Velund
10 Jun 2026  #243

compare Poland to its potato head neighbor in Belarus

You forget to deduct a lot of money got from EU (mostly from Germany to be frank), and effects of sanctions.

Ironside
10 Jun 2026  #244

You forget to deduct a lot of money got from EU (mostly from Germany to be frank), and effects of sanctions.

It is not a charity. No matter how much money you put in to a country it doesn't make it grow it economy , it makes few people grow their accounts. So no, that not analyse that jealousy talking.
Sanctions are the recent thing, just give up!

cms neuf
10 Jun 2026  #245

You forget to deduct a lot of money got from EU (mostly from Germany to be frank), and effects of sanctions.

The EU money came because we are a democracy. Investment came because we are a democracy and investors know we have functioning courts and financial markets.

Potato head decided his path was to follow the North Nigerian model. The result - poverty and misery

Velund
10 Jun 2026  #246

The EU money came because we are a democracy.

If EU money for Poland came because you are a democracy, why (for example) Bulgaria didn't get such rich donations?

Alien
10 Jun 2026  #247

you are a democracy, why (for example) Bulgaria didn't get such rich donations

Bulgaria has much fewer inhabitants.

Torq
10 Jun 2026  #248

why (for example) Bulgaria didn't get such rich donations?

If by "rich donations" you mean EU budget transfers, cohesion funds, structural funds, and related support received as EU members, then Bulgaria has received more EU funding per capita than Poland. Poland has about 38 million people, Bulgaria has about 6-7 million population, so even though we got more money overall, per capita Bulgaria received more. Slovakia, Hungary and Romania also received more money per capita than Poland.

If you give three guys 1000 bucks, and then you give 10 guys 1500 bucks, then you gave the 10 guys more but the three guys are generally happier with your gift. :)

Why is Bulgaria in such an abysmal state economically compared to Poland, despite receiving more money per capita? We are a Latin civilisation country, Bulgaria is Byzantine - they will always steal considerably more than us. Theft is inherent in Byzantine and Turanian civilisations.

Bratwurst Boy
10 Jun 2026  #249

.....since alot of that is/was german money I wonder why Poland never puts all that into the "already-paid-reparations by Germany" drawer....

Germany is broke now, we might ask for rescue as Greece once did...from Poland too!

*ducks and runs*

Velund
10 Jun 2026  #250

Bulgaria has much fewer inhabitants.

I asked about "per capita" amounts, not total... And information I seen before does not show that Bulgaria got more than Poland.

Torq
10 Jun 2026  #251

I asked about "per capita" amounts

Here's how it more or less looks like (per capita and overall)...

Germany is broke now

No worries, if you're out of money, we will also take...

- tanks
- cars
- chosen football players

... we can surely come to some sort of agreement. ;)


  • 1.webp

Torq
10 Jun 2026  #252

As for estimate numbers - see below...


  • Numbers.webp

Bratwurst Boy
10 Jun 2026  #253

- chosen football players

😅

Torq
10 Jun 2026  #254

why Poland never puts all that into the "already-paid-reparations by Germany" drawer

Because you gave more per capita to your former Slovak, Bulgarian, Romanian and Hungarian allies! So these are certainly not war reparations. ;)

😅

Don't laugh - you did this to Poland for years, now it's revenge time!

such rich donations

Also, the reason why the EU gave Poland so much money is because of the size and material of our balls (they are huge and made of iron). We were sort of Ukraine before Ukraine - a shield to guard the Union from the eastern Mongol-hordes' invasions. It is obvious that you pay your bodyguards well, isn't it? Luckily, Ukraine took over the role of the shield from us but we still get to keep the money. Sweet! :)

Miloslaw
10 Jun 2026  #255

Russia is fvcked part 180.......



Some activity tonight at r*SSian petrochemicals facilities in Dagestan.

Even less fuel for the invader who nowadays has to focus on defending.

Russia is fvcked part 181.....Ukraine is winning this war!!!! Have you noticed how the Russians and pro Russians have stopped posting? They know it is the end too.....



Russia is fvcked part 182.......where are the Russians and Russophiles?



Russia is fvcked part 183........ wake up Russians! The Ukrainians are cleverer than you and are winning this war.



jon357
11 Jun 2026  #256

where are the Russians

Waiting for the usual instructions from Glavset about what to post next. Unfortunately Glavset have to deal now with all the internal dissent as the regime there slowly crumbles.

Russophiles?

Hiding in shame because they backed the wrong horse.

cms neuf
12 Jun 2026  #257

They haven't got internet - even in North Lagos the service is patchy; plus the paid trolls haven't been paid for some months and some are calling in sick (they know if they go in to the office to complain they might be on the first bus to Pokrovsk)

In case you are wondering how the war is going - the NNs are losing ground, the Ukrainians are attacking NN oil facilities at will, Crimea is increasingly cut off, and Putler has refused peace negotiations because presumably he thinks he can still throw another 100.000 bodies at this before the serfs complain

Ironside
12 Jun 2026  #258

@Miloslaw
Shove your YouTube vids up your arse you f senile retard. Spamming PF with it all the time,
Anyone who really watches them all, you can vote red here, and those who do not watch it vote green.

Torq
12 Jun 2026  #259

horse

Talking about horses...



wrong horse

Well, don't sell the horse's hide before you've caught the horse, don't count the foals before they're born, and all that sort of thing.

cms neuf
12 Jun 2026  #260

The traditional North Nigeria Day concert on Red Square has been cancelled LOL - scared of Ukrainian drones. They have moved it but suddenly many artists are no longer interested in performing (they know regime change is coming and are hedging their bets)

Bratwurst Boy
12 Jun 2026  #261

Wow! I am amazed!

aol.com/articles/panicking-putin-cancels-russia-day-120400000.html

These Ukrainians are incredible!!!

Are they the best warriors in Europe? Nobody truly had thought they could not only withstand the Red Army for so long but now force Putin to make some truly embarrassing decisions...

(relativizes the experiences of the german Wehrmacht in these lands quite abit)

jon357
12 Jun 2026  #262

don't count the foals before they're born, and all that sort of thing.

And Putler is very long in the tooth now.

And a nod's as good as a wink to a blind horse.

Torq
12 Jun 2026  #263

the experiences of the german Wehrmacht in these lands quite abit

Different times, different war.

Russia lost about 350,000 soldiers (killed) in four years of the war in Ukraine. More or less what they lost in the Battle of Kursk in 1943 (not to mention Stalingrad or the Rhzev "meat grinder"). This war is very different. The tactical fight is fragmented into very small-unit actions - platoons, companies, and battalions (at most). That's why the losses in 4 years of thr war are similar to those in a single big WW2 battle.

Putler

... a hopeless leader. Dragged Russia into this nonsensical war and can't see a sensible way out of it.

Putin is merely a passing figure in Russia's long history though. Russia endured before him, and it will endure long after his name is forgotten.

Bratwurst Boy
12 Jun 2026  #264

Russia endured before him,

.....anything other than a victory against Kiew will destroy the after-WWII-Image Russia lives on till even today....

That image/self-perception loss has the possibility to change the russian society in a ground breaking way (take it from a German)....because of that Putin will become more than just a side note in the russian history!

Torq
12 Jun 2026  #265

That image/self-perception loss

I wouldn't count on that.

Russia lost in Afghanistan and it didn't change their perception of themselves as a superpower. Any territorial gains as a result of the Ukrainian war will be seen as a victory - and a victory against the entire NATO at that!

Bratwurst Boy
12 Jun 2026  #266

Russia lost in Afghanistan and it didn't change their perception of themselves as a superpower.

This loss is seen as the eclipse and the END of the Soviet Union and with that as global super power...and the russian losses back than had been alot less, not to mention that this war had been alot more "far away"!

A revanchist Putin came to power with the promise to bring all that back...pride...power....land....people....in a way like Hitler did after the loss of WW1.....the second loss of a big follow-up war is much worse...nothing to rescue here, just to build up new from the ground!

....just saying....

Torq
12 Jun 2026  #267

build up new from the ground!

Well, it worked out rather well for Germany, so perhaps a new, non-imperialist, Russia will be a much better version of herself too?

Here's hoping.

Bratwurst Boy
12 Jun 2026  #268

so perhaps a new, non-imperialist, Russia will be a much better version of herself too?

....I guess the Russians will be very much self centered and being preoccupied with themselves in the next years, after this war is over...

And I wonder if we should employ the Ukrainians as a foundation for an EU-army, huh? :)

jon357
12 Jun 2026  #269

perhaps a new, non-imperialist, Russia will be a much better version of herself too?

That's what people said and hoped in 1918 and 1990.

DefangingTheBear
12 Jun 2026  #270

Putin is merely a passing figure in Russia's long history though. Russia endured before him,..

True, but he's been in power for a very, very long time now. And who would replace him? We were very lucky with the drunk Yeltsin, the big bear of Europe was very manageable until the KGB and gangsters got their claws back into it.

I really wish the balkanisation of Russia was realistic. Unfortunately, the ethnic Russian majority is just too strong, and there is no real path that would bring us to such a conclusion anyway. But a Russia de-fanged and fragmented would be absolutely excellent for everyone save the CCP, Iran and North Korea.


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