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TheOther
26 Aug 2018  #781

Two things:

First of all, the U.S. is not a democracy, but a republic. We have two main parties which have taken turns in ruling the country for approx. 160 years. Almost like an oligarchy; and a quite corrupt one I might add.

In this republic, the public vote doesn't count. The outcome of the presidential election is decided by electoral votes and by the so-called Electoral College. An antiquated system (even Trump called it "rigged" before the election) which was originally implemented (simplified) to avoid that the population centers on the coasts always rule the rest of the country. This system is indeed rigged and has been manipulated big time by both parties through gerrymandering of districts, voter suppression and various other means. With the outcome that a - let's say - questionable individual has now been elected president by a minority which represents about 46% of voters..

Now look at Trump's actions and the chaos that surrounds him, and then tell me why the majority shouldn't be upset about this administration and oppose it.

Joker
26 Aug 2018  #782

You answered you own question.

First of all, the U.S. is not a democracy, but a republic

Trump won fair and square no matter how lib snowflakes try to spin it. If there is a problem with the electoral college, change it now before the next election. Why arent the Dems crying to change it now?

I would like to see if the Dums can pull it off? I highly doubt it at all with the socialist, abolish ICE and radical ideology from Dums like Waters and Pelosi. All the msm polls will be inaccurate as well, because independents arent going to participate in any of these bogus polls for fear of retribution from crazy lefties.

The same msm pollsters that predicted crooked hillary would win by double digits, hahaha

6 more years , get ready:)

TheOther
26 Aug 2018  #783

Trump won fair and square

I never questioned that. But Trump was also right that the Electoral College system is rigged. High time to abandon it and let the true majority rule. Liberals ... ha ha ...

Why arent the Dems crying to change it now?

I wonder the same.

I would like to see if the Dums can pull it off? ... 6 more years , get ready

Doubt it. Their leadership sucks and they have no appropriate candidate. I still don't need another six years of the current chaos. The country will be damaged beyond repair if that happens. I'm not talking about the economy here by the way.

johnny reb
26 Aug 2018  #784

The country will be damaged beyond repair if that happens.

We said the same thing about Osama.
This is why we call it the BIAS Liberal media.

youtube.com/watch?v=G87UXIH8Lzo

delphiandomine
26 Aug 2018  #785

I would like to see if the Dums can pull it off?

Opinion polls are showing that the Democrats will win the House easily. Once they do that, the congressional investigations are going to tear Trump apart, and it's going to be one huge LOL watching you cry. Even the Senate is on the edge of returning to Democrat control, and well, if Congress is controlled by the Democrats, Trump might well just quit now.

jon357
26 Aug 2018  #786

Opinion polls are showing that the Democrats will win the House easily.

That's good news. If they're careful, they won't impreach the senile p*ssygrabber and let no-sense Pence in the by the back door, but instead let him finish his term as a lame duck president, the worst in their history, and be followed by a Democrat.

When one of his kids or that vacant-looking son-in-law are indicted, that will be a big watershed.

Rich Mazur
26 Aug 2018  #787

If they're careful, they won't impreach the senile p*ssygrabber .... and be followed by a Democrat.

Do you really hate the US so much that you wish for a communist in the WH?

Do you have any proof that Trump grabbed any pussy? A stupid question in response to a stupid accusation.

The reason why Trump is in trouble is that he didn't fire EVERY single Obongo's democrat from the executive branch the first day in office and that his sense of 'loyalty' won over logic and common sense. Hence, we have this weasel Sessions still hanging in there and that back stabbing b***h, Omarosa.

Another act of stupidity was bringing his family into the danger zone that the DC and the WH are. I wonder if that snake, Mueller, already considered dragging Melania in front of a grand jury.

jon357
26 Aug 2018  #788

communist

You think Democrats are 'communist?

Do you have any proof that Trump grabbed any pussy?

He admitted it on film.

Rich Mazur
26 Aug 2018  #789

A proof is in the court of law upon conviction or a statement under oath. Anything else is just bragging and a guy s*** talk.

You think Democrats are 'communist?

Today? Yes. They are worse than communists. They are traitors who don't mind hurting the US and the legal Americans for the future democrat votes. If you can explain their 'open border' anti-US position in any other way, go for it. Just don't tell me that they feel sorry for the poor and the oppressed Latinos. That kind of stupidity is done in Europe.

jon357
26 Aug 2018  #790

A proof is

On film.

Today? Yes. They are worse than communists. They are traitors

You clearly have no idea what you're talking about.

I expect it will all come out in court anyway when the Mango Mussolini is indicted.

Rich Mazur
26 Aug 2018  #791

On film.

Nonsense. The exact pussy quote: If you are a star, they will let you do anything. Grab them by the pussy.
How is that equal to: I grabbed her by the pussy? It isn't but to a typical moron who hates Trump, such things don't matter. Wishful thinking = proof. Sure.

Please, don't ever be a juror.

I see you conveniently forgot to explain that 'open borders' little thingy.

jon357
26 Aug 2018  #792

Grab them by the pussy.

Exactly. A foul individual.

His incoherent ranting tweets show he's clearly terrified of what's facing him. Hopefully the sentence will be so long he'll die in prison.

Rich Mazur
26 Aug 2018  #793

Exactly. A foul individual.

Exactly what? You never met a man who talks s***? Linguistic virgin?

jon357
26 Aug 2018  #794

A 'president' who "talks sh1t".......

At least you're truthful about the senile fraud.

johnny reb
26 Aug 2018  #795

Opinion polls are showing that the Democrats will win the House easily.

The bias Liberal opinion polls showed that Crooked Hillary was a shoe in for the 2016 presidency at 20% too.......so much for the bias Liberal opinion polls.

Exactly. A foul individual. Hopefully the sentence will be so long he'll die in prison.

What Trump did in his personal life BEFORE he was a politician between two consenting adults is one thing however when you have a President Bill Clinton do it right in the Oval Office during his presidency and also be recorded taking 29 trips to a island of under aged sex slaves during his presidency is quite another matter.

Why doesn't your theory of "so long in prison he will die" not hold true there ?
Justice ? What justice !
IS that because of the same double standard of Crooked Hillary being exonerated for Destroying States Evidence, Treason, Collusion and Espionage BEFORE she was even investigated ?

Justice ? What justice !
Crooked Hillary jeopardized the security of the United States and Bill Clinton was accused of several rapes yet you want to burn Trump at the stake with your, "I HATE TRUMP" no matter what circus.

I am afraid Nutter Snowflakes are going to have a major meltdown when Trump gets re-elected 2020.

Joker
26 Aug 2018  #796

Opinion polls are showing that the Democrats will win the House easily.

Dont pop the champagne open yet, those opinion polls are a total joke! Many ppl that are going to vote for Trump are too afraid to admit it out of fear of violence or harassment from the extreme lefturds. They will make their voices heard at the ballot box and then we will be laughing at the subsequent snowflake meltdown! lol

I see you conveniently forgot to explain that 'open borders' little thingy.

Antifa Jon loves to deflect and spin the topic and it is very reflective towards his hatred of America.

same double standard of Crooked Hillary being exonerated

If the Dems are allowed go on a witch hunt for things Trump did before he was President, then they certainly should go after crimes crooked hillary committed in office.

TheOther
26 Aug 2018  #797

...out of fear of violence or harassment from the extreme lefturds

"Jews will not replace us" is more acceptable, I suppose?

Rich Mazur
26 Aug 2018  #798

At least you're truthful about the senile fraud.

As truthful as I am about 2 billion other men who talk s***.
Did you ever say, 'f***'?

johnny reb
27 Aug 2018  #799

Wouldn't it be great if all the Socialist in America went and lived in Socialist countries.

Joker
27 Aug 2018  #800

Ive noticed Michael Mooore and Sean Penn along with some other Dums stopped promoting Venezuela as thier shining example of socialism. lol

pjmedia.com/rogerlsimon/the-democrats-go-full-venezuela/

Little miss socialist cant seem to grasp it either.

I cant wait to see them lose by a huge landslide, only idiots could vote for Dems at this point in time.

Rich Mazur
27 Aug 2018  #801

Last time, they just couldn't find voting places by googling "free phone". This time, they will be guided or dragged.

TheOther
27 Aug 2018  #802

only idiots could vote for Dems at this point in time

"It just seems that the economy does better under the Democrats than the Republicans. Now, it shouldn't be that way. But if you go back, I mean it just seems that the economy does better under the Democrats [...] But certainly we had some very good economies under Democrats, as well as Republicans. But we've had some pretty bad disaster under the Republicans."

Donald Trump, 2004
Party affiliation: Democratic

johnny reb
27 Aug 2018  #803

Like Dirk and myself previously said, we have made more in the stock market since Trump has been president for a year and a half then we made in the entire eight years while obama was president.

Bottom line is Trump knows how to stimulate an economy and Obama didn't.

Rich Mazur
27 Aug 2018  #804

Trump has one big problem and it's his political naivete. It was so predictable that the swamp will try everything to derail him. A normal and sane guy would handle this by firing every single fireable person in every single department, starting with Justice, FBI, CIA, and the State, the day after being sworn in. Comey should have been emailed 'you are fired' the second after the 'I do". Now, it's too late. Firing Rosens*** would immediately be 'obstruction of justice'. Which, of course, it wouldn't but that is how the deep state would sell it through the subversive outlets like CNN.

And, then, that twitter. I mean, how stupid can a president be to publicly moan, whine, and complain about his own Justice department, for example. They are slow releasing docs to a congressional committee? Call Sessions in and give him an ultimatum. So, what does Trump do? He whines.

The more I see this circus the more I am convinced that the China and the Russia models are sane and sustainable. Can anyone imagine FSB investigating Putin by dredging irrelevant bs from a distant past to flip the little fish to get Putin? How about Xi?

Economy does not need to be stimulated. Economy is not a woman. What economy needs is a government that obeys the Constitution. It's really that simple.

johnny reb
27 Aug 2018  #805

I just remembered;

Donald Trump, 2004 Party affiliation: Democratic

Correct, Trump was a Democrat back in 2004 but then saw the light and became a Republican of sorts to save America from Crooked Hillary.

Rich Mazur
27 Aug 2018  #806

Trump, like everybody else, was and is what he needs to be at the moment. Only the religious zealots would rather die than switch.

TheOther
27 Aug 2018  #807

Switch? They are already in Trump's cult. All of them.

Economy does not need to be stimulated.

Not right now, that's for sure. The GOP "Tax Cut for the Rich" is overheating the economy and increasing our trade and budget deficits. The numbers are out there for everyone to see, but instead they stare at the Dow Jones like a deer in the headlights. Oh look ... shiny lights ... clunk ...

johnny reb
27 Aug 2018  #808

You bet ya Pal.
I am surprised you haven't given obama the credit for jump starting the economy instead of Trump.
Trump just settled with Mexico and the market jumped over 200 points as we speak.
That just put another $2000 plus in my portfolio today so far........ thank you President Trump !
Here, read it for yourself:

ibankcoin.com/flyblog/2018/08/27/nasdaq-8000-new-nafta-deal-winning-continues/#sthash.5sdMVIws.dpbs

I love Trump.
Why do you Hate him for Making America Great Again ?
I think because he is making the Democrats look bad, very bad.

TheOther
27 Aug 2018  #809

You forgot to quote the "clunk" part ... :)

I am surprised you haven't given obama the credit

I don't have to. You only have to look at the numbers how the economy developed over the past 10 years. There's no denying that Trump is riding a wave from the past. Yes, he drove the Dow Jones up and the corporations report record profits, but at what cost? Record budget deficit, increasing trade deficit, growing inflation and thus stagnant wages - just to name a few. In my eyes, Trump voters are lemmings marching towards a cliff shouting MAGA while shooting themselves in the foot.

Making America Great Again

That's an empty slogan. When was America great the last time? Answer that and then we'll talk.

cms neuf
27 Aug 2018  #810

Don't get too excited - a big correction is coming. It will start with either consumer debt or the Amazon bubble bursting, don't know when but definitely before the next pres election.

Stock markets have been strongly up since 2010 in pretty much every Western country - does not matter who is in charge, left, right or middle. There are lots of reasons for that - low interest rates, tech boom, low transaction costs and taxes, high entry costs for real estate etc.

One notable exception is Poland of course - mainly because of the govt interfering in the mgmt of some of the biggest companies.

Stock market growth does not always make voters happy - in both Brexit and the Trump quake then they ignored stock market results and rather thought they felt poor themselves - from rising costs, stagnant wages, inequality, resentment against immigrants lowering wages etc.


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