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American Political News in relation to Poland


cms neuf
27 Aug 2018  #811

Don't get too excited - a big correction is coming. It will start with either consumer debt or the Amazon bubble bursting, don't know when but definitely before the next pres election.

Stock markets have been strongly up since 2010 in pretty much every Western country - does not matter who is in charge, left, right or middle. There are lots of reasons for that - low interest rates, tech boom, low transaction costs and taxes, high entry costs for real estate etc.

One notable exception is Poland of course - mainly because of the govt interfering in the mgmt of some of the biggest companies.

Stock market growth does not always make voters happy - in both Brexit and the Trump quake then they ignored stock market results and rather thought they felt poor themselves - from rising costs, stagnant wages, inequality, resentment against immigrants lowering wages etc.
Rich Mazur
27 Aug 2018  #812

Yes, he drove the Dow Jones up and the corporations report record profits, but at what cost?

It's not often that we agree but I do this time. Stock market and wages are two and the opposite things. When a company fires people and moves to Mexico, the stock goes up. Good for the stockholders, bad for the employees.

Unemployment figures are fake or at least meaningless. When a guy, with a stay-at-home wife and two college kids, making 100 gees gets dumped and gets a job as a greeter at Walmart, the unemployment needle does not move one bit while the family is going through hell. To keep the roof, the kids drop out and, along with mom, go to work at Home Depot, if they are lucky. Now, the unemployment needle is very happy.

Bottom line: what counts in the economy are two things: how many full time jobs with benefits are there that pay enough to support a suburban family of 4, plus a dog. I will settle for Peoria, Illinois. All the rest is pure bulls***. Stock market included since your typical stock portfolio matters only when you are on your death bed or when you want to feel good looking at the monthly statement.

The second thing is what the Labor Department calls: inflation adjusted, non-farm payroll hourly wage. This one is good because it ignores the bs the wh****s in the DC like so much - the "family income".
jon357
27 Aug 2018  #813

The important thing is that they don't rush to imoeach it, no matter how much evidence there is against it. Better to let it finish its term as a lame duck 'president' and arrest it afterwards.

Did you ever say, 'f***'?

Very rarely. Then again, I'm not a 'president' who is sh*tting on its own country's flag.
TheOther
28 Aug 2018  #814

@Rich
Your post is pretty much spot on. Nothing to add.

Better to let it finish its term

I would go even further and say that the GOP should win the midterm elections in November. They shouldn't have the slightest chance to blame the Dems after the proverbial hits the fan. These so-called conservatives need to be finished off once and for all.
Joker
28 Aug 2018  #815

When was America great the last time? Answer that and then we'll talk.

It must be greater than Australia? Why else did you move here, just to bash us? Hop on your kangaroo and get the F out of here, expat scum!
TheOther
28 Aug 2018  #816

It must be greater than Australia?

Nah, it's about the same size. :)

You cultists scream "Make America Great Again" at every freakin' Trump rally in Flyover Country, but you are intellectually so challenged that you can't even answer a simple question? What does that 'AGAIN' refer to, Amanda?

expat scum

Really cute, but don't try to distract from the fact that you are incapable of giving an answer and that you are actually a little anchor baby. Not a real American according to the crowd you're hanging out with.
Rich Mazur
28 Aug 2018  #817

These so-called conservatives need to be finished off once and for all

The key word in the quoted sentence is 'so-called' since there are no true conservatives in the American politics. Only the fakes. Like the 43.
Anyone one who is stupid enough to declare himself to be a true conservative is instantly a political leper and unelectable. Dumping debt on our kids is just too irresistible.
Joker
28 Aug 2018  #818

but don't try to distract from the fact that you are incapable of giving an answer

Here one of many facts that makes America and Americans great! Whenever there is a catastrophe who is the first country to help?

Since you hate it here so much, go home.

Your penal colony is waiting!

Not a real American according to the crowd you're hanging out with.

I can trace my ancestors all the way back to Virginia 1800`s, but really dont have to explain anything to a two bit expat leaching off California citizens.

' Trump rally in Flyover Country,

And more ppl to that are going to out vote you Libtards by an even larger margin in 2020. I hope your hate burns you up inside fool!

MAGA!

P.S. I can tell you are getting very desperate, typical "Trump Derangement Syndrome" and its getting worse, seek professional help!
johnny reb
28 Aug 2018  #819

These so-called conservatives need to be finished off once and for all.

Be less blood shed if you Saul Alinski Socialist just moved to Socialist countries if you like them so much.
Notice how none of you Lefty Socialists have moved to Mexico or Venizuala that you want to turn America into.
Capitalism built America and capitalism rules America.
You don't like that then get he hell out of here.
Socialism works great until the other guys money runs out and we ain't gonna let that happen.
TheOther
28 Aug 2018  #820

Anyone one who is stupid enough to declare himself to be a true conservative is instantly a political leper and unelectable

You see, and that's why the whole Republican Party needs to be thrown into the dustbin of history. Each and everyone of them, starting with Ryan and McConnell.

Your penal colony is waiting!

You still didn't answer. Try it - it doesn't hurt, I promise.

Be less blood shed

Why do you Trumpsters always think of violence and guns? We get rid of you the legal and clean way - through elections and evolution.
johnny reb
28 Aug 2018  #821

Naw if nothing else we love getting under your skin to watch you have another meltdown.
TheOther
28 Aug 2018  #822

we love getting under your skin

I know. That's the only reason why you constantly vote against your own interest and why you elected Trump. To stick it to the libruls.

I can trace my ancestors all the way back to Virginia 1800`s

Last time you said you can trace your earliest ancestors back to California. What is it then?
Joker
28 Aug 2018  #823

That's the only reason why you constantly vote against your own interest and elected Trump

Hillary Clinton would be better? I see, tow the Democrat line. Did you vote for Pelosi? Probably cant anyhow, its Malcom Turnbulls son! lol
TheOther
28 Aug 2018  #824

Hillary Clinton would be better?

I told you several times already that I didn't vote in 2016 because I couldn't stand any of the candidates. Big mistake. Won't happen again.

Malcom Turnbull

He will resign on Friday, so no prob... :)
Joker
28 Aug 2018  #825

I told you several times already that I didn't vote in 2016

I used to be a dem and even voted for Bill Clinton. They have gone way too far to the radical left and dont make sense anymore.

Socialism are you kidding, you would vote for that? Look at a recent example: Venezuela
johnny reb
28 Aug 2018  #826

I didn't vote in 2016 Big mistake

Yeah right, like your one vote would have changed the outcome of the election. lol
Kids today, I'm tellin' ya.
TheOther
28 Aug 2018  #827

Socialism are you kidding, you would vote for that?

Nah, of course not. Otherwise I would've chosen nut job Sanders in 2016.

like your one vote would have changed the outcome

Remember that Trump only won by 77,000 votes.
Joker
28 Aug 2018  #828

Who do the Dems have?

Only the little socialist girl so far......

They better hurry before Crooked Hillary sees this as another opportunity......lol

Get the popcorn out!
johnny reb
28 Aug 2018  #829

Remember that Trump only won by 77,000 votes.

You forgot to subtract the 15 million illegals that voted for Crooked Hillary.
And you still are having a meltdown about it.
That's how you Snowflakes got your name.
No losers, everyone got a participation trophy, then came the real world and you can't handle being a loser.
Now go to your safe room if you want to keep crying about it.
Rich Mazur
28 Aug 2018  #830

If you guys talked issues you might discover how much in common you have. To me, it's not democrats vs republicans. Overspending is moronic regardless if it's for the DoD or 'social programs'.
TheOther
28 Aug 2018  #831

Who do the Dems have?

No one. As I told you before, I expect another Republican president in the WH in 2020 if the Dems won't get their act together soon. It won't be Trump though.

You forgot to subtract the 15 million illegals that voted

Conspiracy theory. Irrelevant.
Rich Mazur
28 Aug 2018  #832

How would you explain why democrats love illegals and hate free, state-provided voter ID's?
johnny reb
28 Aug 2018  #833

Then again, I'm not a 'president' who is sh*tting on its own country's flag.

Trump is doing just the opposite of what your propaganda insinuates.
I understand your frustrations with him however, as he stands for everything your kind stands against.
Take the trade tariffs for example.
Europe, one of America's allies, has handed America a trade deficit ever since WW2.
Trump gets elected, (the new Sheriff in town) and says ENOUGH, game over, America is done being used and mooched off from.
Time to balance things out here.
So of course you Europeans are going to stomp your feet and have a hissy fit over it.
It's no surprise to the U.S. why Europe doesn't like Trump or America.
Well put the shoe on the other foot because when you hit Trump he is going to hit back.
You Europeans belittle and name call America (who you have had an unfair trade deficit in your favor for 75 years) non stop so guess what.

And here you are as a Brit promoting propaganda that is totally just the opposite of the truth.
Come on jon, you know we are protégé's of Trump and not going to tolerate such nasty hateful lies about our President..
Rich Mazur
28 Aug 2018  #834

So of course you Europeans are going to stomp your feet and have a hissy fit over it.

That wouldn't be so bad. What is really bad is that they have the balls to tell us how bad tariffs are. And, then, with straight face and that fake concern, these a-holes tell us that Trump's tariffs are bad not for them but for "America".

To them, the US as the ATM for the entitled parasite world was a normal and - brace yourself - good for the US. So, how dare we disturb this happy state of things.
TheOther
28 Aug 2018  #835

these a-holes tell us that Trump's tariffs are bad not for them but for "America".

That's not true. The European press was full of reports how damaging tariffs would be for the EU members. And let's face it: when they tell us that tariffs are bad for the US, they are absolutely right. Tariffs are like any other tax. The money collected is government revenue. I suspect they'll try to use it to fill the crater that the tax cut blew into the budget.
Dirk diggler
28 Aug 2018  #836

All that freeloading coming to an end. Eu has more problems and division than ever in it's history and its starting to have funding problems plus the dollar is standing a lot better than the euro and has been since late 2014, 2015. All the cracks starting becoming evident, the migrant crisis ravaged Europe and more and more countries going to the right and asserting their independence and sovereignty to the eus dismay. Mant feel the eu needs reforn, some even want to leave or atleast gain greater independence. Now Italy doesn't even want to pay 18 bil into the eu budget because it feels like it's getting ripped off and they have enough of their own problems to deal with. And a lot of Americans are sick of protecting a continent who can do it on its own. You want protection you gotta pay. Every president talked about the NATO freerider issue including Obama and bush and finally Trump has enough balls to do something about it.

And despite all the msm bullshit and polls about Trump and leftist whining dont change the fact that he's way more popular than anyone the left is thinking about fielding. Chelsea Clinton? Michael Obama? Rofl... even the pencil neck liberal suburbanites with Bernie stickers on their cars who claim to love diversity yet complain when there's section 8 housing on their block along with anyone who has a few bucks in the market, any employer will tell you the economy is doing greater - better than ever under Obama. There's a reason why trump supporters and conservatives are called the silent majority. Despite all the tens of millions spent on the msm polls not one of them predicted Trump would win. And there's a lot more people that are seeing how biased and out of touch msm is with Americans and don't report how things actually are. It's the dumbest bullsh1t from trumps hair to why melania wore heels and this Russia hoax to cover up the dems especially Clinton. Over 1.5 years, millions of wasted tax payer dollars and still nothing with Trump. I could've told Mueller what he would find a year ago in fact I even wrote on here a long time ago if they're gonna find any sort of Russia connection it'll be Manafort since he lobbied on behalf of yanukovych. ***** ******* obvious. And besides does it even really matter even if Russians were involved? Countries lobby politicians constantly. Why is no one looking into Clinton's ties with Morocco and other middle eastern states? Why no mention of how deeply Israel influences us policy? But no a few hundred grand spent on social media to buy some bots and pay people to comment and advertise and suddenly Donald trump colluded with Russia to steal election? Lol please. And even if he did so what America has influenced and other countries no doubt contributed to us campaigns. America and others have sewn countless elections and sewn division and even civil war. Americans even heavily influenced late prl early Democratic Poland. And still thats nothing compared to what us did in nicaragua iraq and all the other elections theyve actually meddled in. But yeah putin helped trump steal a us election and Now the msm wants Americans to panic because the leftists they support might be exposed for actual corruption, collusion and treason. **** is ******* retarded. It's like the movie idiocracy but even worse bc it's reality.
johnny reb
28 Aug 2018  #837

Excellent post Dirk as you nailed it perfectly.

I suspect they'll try to use it to fill the crater that the tax cut blew into the budget.

Better then just printing trillions of more fake money like obama did to cover his budget.
We saw what that did to our National Debt didn't we.
How about giving the tax cut a chance to work.
It wasn't designed to work overnight.

Now for the Trump news you Europeans don't hear about.
Trump comes through with a new DEAL with the Mexicans !
Sending the market into new Highs !
Now Prime Minister Trudeau of Canada is flying in to D.C. today to see if he can get into the Deal also.
AND TO TOP IT ALL OFF....... Trumps POLL NUMBERS are at an all time high at 46% .
Meaning all this crap about his lawyer rolling over is NOT affecting his base (his popularity).
This has GOTTA make the Dumbo' Crats CRAZY !
Oh Trumps gonna win in 2020 alright.
Rich Mazur
28 Aug 2018  #838

Tariffs are like any other tax.

No, they are not because tariffs, like crimes by illegal scum, are 100% preventable. Make it in the US - no tariffs. See how simple it is?

Tariff is what governments collect, including EU, to pay the unemployment benefits or to equalize the wage differences between their countries and the slave labor paradise like China or sweat shops in Nicaragua. The idea that a private company can escape to one of those hellholes and bring the goodies back home to sell to their ex-employees now on welfare is too idiotic to debate.
TheOther
28 Aug 2018  #839

Make it in the US - no tariffs. See how simple it is?

On paper, sure, but no industrialized country on Earth can manufacture everything domestically anymore. Now let's talk about wages and production costs in the USA...

Half of the Trump voters would starve if you would move production entirely to the US, the other half would have to move into a cave (if they don't live there already) because everything becomes unaffordable for them at our current wage levels. It's already ridiculous that so many families have to work two or three jobs, and still can't make ends meet. What do you think will happen if prices all of a sudden increase tenfold or more?

Trump comes through with a new DEAL with the Mexicans !

You know how the US trade representative's office officially described the agreement, don't you? "A preliminary agreement in principle"... . In other words: hot air like the North Korea "deal". It has to go through Congress first anyway and Mexico insists that Canada has to be part of the deal, too.
Rich Mazur
28 Aug 2018  #840

On paper, sure, but no industrialized country on Earth can manufacture everything domestically anymore.

What you wrote sounds reasonable but only if you ignore the fact that others love their tariffs. It's only the American tariffs that are evil and harmful to the Americans, goes the story. The EU tariffs, on the other hand, are good for the EU. Chinese tariffs - good for China. US tariffs - bad for US.

Did I get it right?

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