Brexit 2019 and Poland

I love England and I like the English people. Politics are a separate matter.

If you really think that there will be a hard border between Ireland and the rest of the EU, either you were trying to be annoying or you are genuinely an idiot. You choose :)

Rich, is that you posting as Atch ? lol

Oh the the mercury levels are going to burst on the irony meter.:) Immigrants to Britain always magically know what's best for the country, (as long as it involves a rabidly anti-immigration stance) and are quick to tell the indigenous population what the adopted policy should be - including one customs official (from somewhere on the Asian continent) asking me in broken English what the purpose of my visit to the UK was.

This is amusing at best, rather irritating at other times - so I guess we are all square on this topic.

You simply make no sense on many levels, You're inconsistent, incoherent and love your double standards. They invented that term a patchwork family but I came with better use for it - a patchwork brain to describe your condition Dougie.

Read your own post again and tell me what you wrote is wrong from the perspective of the ideological platform you claim to endorse. What more you call people names for diverting even an inch from its standard.

@Miloslaw

By the way. You view of the Brexit and NI border is simplified. That simple dichotomy of good and bad doesn't really help to find a viable solution for any problem.

there are complex issues involved.

I for one find is amusing that no one feel a need to address an 'immigration system'. Are people even aware that something like that exist.After all the main reason for Brexit was a freedom of movement i.e. immigration. Fine, Brexit will solve immigration from the EU countries but what about that areas that are outside the EU like 80% of the world?

Doing what it had been done for decades by the consecutive governments? Handling the issues from a one election to other? How has it worked for you so far, eh>?

I man loosing all that custom in the financial sector and some investments that choose Britain due to its participation in the EU project just to keep out a few EU migrants (that could have been achieved by other means) just to open the gates for more Nigerian, Bangladeshi and Indian immigrants seems like a lousy trade. Well, maybe it is not.

After all the EU without the Brits will move towards federalization with a further marginalization of the Easter Europe and Mediterranean countries.
Hell, all this could be academic as it seems that the era of globalization will come to an end with China's rise to prominence in the world in a decade or two.

Times when globalisation and American protection allowed some countries to thrive and build their own Ponzi schemas (like the NHS) supplemented by immigration system comes to an and.

Unfortunately Poland is embrancining that passing system as we speak.

NI is a burden on the uk economy. realistically it should be merged with Dublin. There is a problem of a large group of residents who find it impossible to accept that reality. Maybe semi-independence.

Anyhow, there are great changes ahead. Poland should be on its toes to be able to make the right decision on a go.

This was A reason for Brexit,but not the main one.

The main reason was that we no longer want to be ruled by unelected people in Brussels that we can't get rid of.
We want to be able to decide who runs our country.

Over time, GB was at war with France and Germany. Today, no bullets are flying. Cool. But why would you join a club where you would be outvoted by those two?

Exactly,but when we joined it was just an economic union.There was no talk of a "United States of Europe".

Na ja...they probably joined to have a say. After all GB got a big heap of influence (rebate anybody?) and not at least the right to veto anything they didn't like.

Now the club makes its decisions without british interference...is that better for the UK?


The funny thing is that as long the UK had a veto they could and did stop any moves in that direction...the Brexit leaves the way free for those who want that...is that better for the UK?

My point exactly.
EU resembles CCCP minus gulags. The difference: CCCP was decaying economically. EU decays morally.
Sometimes, people value more what's in their hearts than in the garage. But, as the prostitution industry shows, at least for a while, the garage will win.

To continue with my car analogy, how much money would you have to be offered to take a family of four Pakistanis into your house for ever? Simple question answerable with a number and no essays.

You are exaggerating Rich. I would not say that the EU is decaying morally, just because a few countries (e.g. Poland and Hungary) betrayed their christian values during the refugee crisis. On the other hand there have been some significant improvements for the rights of its' minorities during the last few years, so there is a clear improvement in several areas.

...minorities that you stupidly created.
What rights are those?
So, what's the amount?

Yes,because we want no part of that and I think it will either change direction or fail.

The EU as the biggest trading partner will continue to "run" our country - only now we wont have any say in the decision making process.

Well done for that.

Let's cut to the chase: unless whites stop immigration and start massive deportations we are f***ed.
All the talk about trading and rights is just noise to suppress the inconvenient truth above.

Is your problem that you're not being ****** Rich? Just wondering.......

I am by the illegal Latino garbage and what they are doing to this once-great and almost-white country.

It was pretty non-white pre 1610 wasn't it?

As I said...now the gloves are off! :)


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Nicht keine sprechen Deutsche. Rather, as illustrated, who can speak German? Poles easily learn the romantic languages, but German is a bridge too far (sorry for the war reference!)

No. we want to keep our Poles, and help our GDP. There's still time for the British nation to hit its' collective head again, and come to its' senses.

Maybe for you. The main reason pro-Brexit voters prevailed was due to the one factor only - people voted against immigration.


As understood by your average voter - those foreigners who stopped British gov from reducing or stopping the influx of immigrants from the EU countries. There are just too many of them, right?

I mean Brexit is a fact. No backing out of it is possible. The Eu as it is is just BS. So fair enough full speed ahead. There is no reason to tell fairy stories about what was the main reason that carried Brexit over the line.

Would you put the house on that Ironside? I am not convinced. There's still a 35 percent chance on my betting cards that Brexit won't happen. A 2-1 on. Care to lodge a sportsman's bet?

Agreed that Brexit is solely down to the British man's distrust of Johnny Foreigner. It wont alter the fact that many are too lazy to get up in the morning to do a days' graft.

It's Foreigner, all right, but ain't Johnny. It's Ahmed or something like that.

There was always more immigration to the UK from outside rather than from inside the EU anyway. If Brexiteers think that Britain leaving the EU is going to put an end to all those nasty foreigners arriving, they are living in fairyland. India already wants more Indians to come to the UK as part of a trade deal. and there will be strings attached for new deals with other countries too. The US wants employees of American companies in the UK to be able to use the NHS for example.


Really? I think perhaps you have blinkers on.

Rather worryingly, here is something else that could be in store for the UK in a post-Brexit deal........
Personally, I don't want to eat beef that is full of growth hormones, and currently banned throughout Europe and the UK. They can keep their chlorinated chicken too. All trade deals are going to come at a price..............

bbc.co.uk/news/business-47036119

You so miss the point....it's not about stopping them,it's about the quality of those allowed in.
I think you need to remove your blinkers and see reality.

How dare you! Don't you know we are all equal and there are no differences between races! None. Not even one. Including IQ.

That most of the workers in Scottish hospitality are Polish.....

We only allow in what we need.
What is so difficult or bad about that?

Only If there are going to be a second referendum. I doubt there will be one.

Otherwise establishment won't dare to go against public sentiment. Even thought like 90% of them politicians are anti-Brexit.

The EU doesn't want Britain to back off too. They would rather readmit the uk without its special status. If anything they see the uk as a major block to their federalization plans. Those pen-pushers in Brussels have done more to turn the British public against the EU than all the Farage-s combined.

Never a truer word spoken!

If that were true, the Leave Campaign should not have resorted to using blatant lies.