Brexit 2019 and Poland

Yes,probably.
It shows that you have absolutley no understanding of the problem.

Do catch up Miloslaw. The President of the European commission said all that was needed to be said today. It was the 17 million who wanted to leave who didn't think, it was Gove and Boris who didn't think. Varadker and Juncker are right. The UK government wants the divorce - they have to think of the solution - it is not for Ireland (or the EU) to do or think anything.

"I want a divorce, because you are foreign to me - and I want to be alone - oh, and here are my conditions for leaving....":) :)

And you talk about "intelligence"..................Doh!

That moron said other stupid things too,which have gone ballistic here in The UK,even more people switching to leave,....where did he learn his skills of diplomacy?

Ireland and everyone else have agreed we will not have a hard border with NI.
Stop ignoring the elephant in the room!
What is your solution to this dilemma?

But why would the Irish accept that ? Just because its suits Britain ?

Do you realise Ireland has its own govt and voters and they dont want a border with France ?

Figures? And which moron are you speaking of? That moron has rung rings round the British establishment and if we had someone with his brains we wouldn't be deep in the brown stuff right now.

As with all things EU,it's not up to The Irish.
If The EU does not want illegal drugs from The UK getting into France via The ROI,they will have to impose a hard border.

Brussels decides,not Dublin.
Their unelected beauracrats have more power than elected governments.
Dontcha love The EU?

I already said, if you want Brexit, the government will ultimately have to accept a customs union. You talk as if Ireland can be invaded and we have British troops behind the barricades on the Liffey.

Total nonsense - of course the EU can not decide that. Do you think the other 26 countries would vote or even suggest such a measure knowing that in future it might happen to them ?

Miloslaw, go away and read about the history, and please stop spouting rubbish.
Good night:)

Why?
And it's not British troops invading Ireland......they have already been taken over by Brussels....

No - they voted to join the EU. In 1973 and it still is one of the best decisions in their history

They voted to leave the UK - cant remember when but around 1920. I dont think rejoining would be a popular option

I don't know why any of you are bothering to listen to Miloslaw's nonsense and wasting your time discussing it ; he's just trying to be annoying. Ignore him.

A united Ireland will only come about through an all-island referendum and now is not the right time for it. We'll only have one if the Irish government feels that there's a very good chance that NI will vote to join up with us and that's by no means certain at this stage. Also nobody in the Republic wants the hardline Unionists like the DUP, they're just so tiresome and troublesome. Some academics published a paper recently outlining what a united Ireland might look like and there were appalling suggestions in it such as changing our flag and national anthem to embrace and recognize the Unionist culture - it's enough to send me out on the street with a petrol bomb! Our flag already represents them, which is more than they deserve, the green for the Catholics, the orange for the Protestants and the white for peace between us. Anyway.............as you all know, I'm a 'nice lady' so you can imagine the reactions of people who are less reasonable than I am.


Éire - note the 'síne fada' over the 'e',never omit your síne fadas :)- is the Irish name for Ireland and it's on our passports but no Irish person ever calls it that. It's seen as a derogatory English way of referring to Ireland that dates back to the early years of Irish independence and like so many things related to Irish history and politics is very difficult to explain to foreigners!

As for all that rubbish about Trump, he couldn't even get planning permission from the local council in Co Clare to build a wall around his golf course, let alone sort out Brexit. Noel Edmonds would do a better job "Deal - or no deal?" :D

Here's a snapshot of the American opinions that really count:
rte.ie/news/2019/0207/1028023-us_brexit_warning/

Atch, what's your opinion on the way that the BBC uses "Irish Republic"? I can't stand it personally, it's just as bad as using Éire because it's not the name of the country, and there's no reason why they couldn't use Republic of Ireland instead.


What? It's nothing to do with the EU in this sense, Ireland will be a separate Customs territory and so a customs line will have to be imposed. The problem is that this is a unilateral British action that completely ignored the 'Principle of Consent" - which is the cornerstone of the Good Friday Agreement.

Still, I wonder how the UK intends to control the Irish border.

It doesn't bother me hugely on a personal level, but you're quite right. The correct names are Ireland and Northern Ireland. It's acceptable to say Republic of Ireland in order to make it clear what territory one is talking about, but it shouldn't be referred to for journalism purposes as the Irish Republic. The worst thing is when Irish Republic is used as a postal address, that really annoys me! There is something very odd and indeed rather telling, about the difficulty the English have in simply referring to Ireland as Ireland. We hear, Éire, Southern Ireland and the Irish Republic.


They can't. Quite literally. They simply cannot put in place any kind of infrastructure. One good thing which has come out of this for Ireland, is that those milder Unionists and those from the British tradition who are not rabidly anti-Irish will certainly see that they were never considered by the British administration or the British public, when the Brexit campaign was going on. In fact it is the Irish government and their consistent efforts that they have to thank, for the fact that the interests of Northern Ireland were in any way taken care of. So for that section of the Unionist community, they see that their "Britishness" means absolutely nothing and is a figment of their own imagination.

Anyway Delph, let's hope that this also steers Scotland in the direction of independence. It's a wonderful country with a great history, well able to take its place amongst the nations of Europe and the world, and it would get every support it needed from the EU.

Corbyn intent on putting the cat amongst the pigeons with his offered deal to May. Hopefully it is so worded that she cannot possibly accept, and Labour eventually move towards the People's Vote.

Anyway, as Tusk said yesterday.......

That's what I meant, Atch. The E.U. has Britain (excuse my French) by the balls. They decided to leave because they wanted back "control of their borders", so they now need to come up with a solution to protect their border with the ROI. They can't, so they are forced to come up with another solution. They cant, so ... ad nauseam ...


Not as easy, I'm afraid. The Republic of Ireland will be the external border of the EU, bordering a third state on land. Someone has to control the flow of people in and out of the country and the EU. Vicious circle. See above.

Really?
For someone who thought,and maybe still thinks,I am American,your judgement needs to be called into question.
Very poor.
Having said that,I am disgusted by the attitudes of some ex pats in Poland from The British Isles.(includes ROI)
The only one who is keeping up and has a brain is Dolno.
The rest of you are an insult to our islands.
As an Anglo Pole I feel much closer to The Polish Americans on here than you lot.
They still see things as they really are.
I was not trying to be annoying,I wanted to rattle a few cages of people who are acting like ostriches with their heads in the sand.....

English,Scottish and Irish.....I support the union,but you guys are such a disgrace that I am changing my point of view.
Your anti English stance verges on racism....I know many Irish people,none share your extreme views on "The English".
You are an Irish dinosaur and your opinions need to go the same way they did.

Likewise mate, I second all that you have to say here , but you and I share the same history.

We do,maybe that is why we can see what is wrong and right in The British Isles and what is good and bad in Poland.

And they can't.....
We are British born Poles.They are British born.
Huge difference.

To exiles that had lost everything

Exactly,these other ex pats don't really get that.

Some political views are like religion. Remove one brick and the whole stinking mess comes crumbling down.
Multiculturalism is one of them. Immigration, refugees, abortion rights and global warming are the same - religions. They did bet on them and now it is clear that those were poison pills.

Perfectly clear to all except those ostriches with their heads in the sand.....

Yeah? So why don't you work some of your miracles over here then in the land of your fathers, if you Polonia can really see what's wrong with Poland. After all, you get the vote here for some absurd reason. It must be cosy being the experts in everything - I mean, it's not like Poles ever shot themselves in the foot now is it?

More anti Polish crap?
What do you mean by that my little Englishman in Poland?

He doesn't know but it felt good to write it.

Now if King Jaroslaw thinks this through, he could get the Poles in Britain to vote for PiS in the upcoming Euroelections after Tusk insults the British, who have provide a home to 2M Poles over the last 15 years.

There aren't millions of third worlders in Ireland trying to get into the UK....

Or maybe if the UK will be going down the tube then Ireland might be worried..

Not to mention dismantling the deep state...

...but he said "pussy"...boo hoo...
Impeach!!!!