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Coronavirus in Poland



Ironside
7 Feb 2021  #4501

Sounds like a sex advert - together we'll get through this! lol!

that doesn't happen by accident....

no it doesn't ! let see what our tough American friends - those big free people everyone are jealous off - will do about it,...they'll make Biden stop it and back off, they will keep their oligarchs in check - right?

oh? you mean they all they gonna do is to yapp and whine on the internet like the rest of us lol! and grow more obese on that junk food they invented?

MarieAntoinette
7 Feb 2021  #4502

Covid. What did you think we were talking about?

Oh! I thought you were talking about a serious deadly disease, because you talked about vaccins.

jon357
7 Feb 2021  #4503

serious deadly disease

It's serious and deadly if you die of it, as a member of my family did. You should hand your wretched head in shame for trying to troll about something so serious and tragic. What's your next little trick? Cancer jokes?

vaccins

Vaccines are maybe the greatest step forward in human medical history, on a level with antibiotics, anaesthesia and antiseptics.

all the small businesses in town weren't allowed to open while the large chains were

It's more or less the opposite in Britain. The chains are shut, the smaller shops are open.

mafketis
7 Feb 2021  #4504

It's serious and deadly if you die of it, as a member of my family did

You have my condolences.

Vaccines are maybe the greatest step forward in human medical history

Arguably true, but we're being told that the 'vaccines' being rolled out don't prevent infection or transmission.... so.... that's not a vaccine as far as I can tell... What is it?

jon357
7 Feb 2021  #4505

don't prevent infection

The Pfizer vaccine gives 90% immunity after both doses and 52% immunity after just the first.

Hence the large-scale rollout.

bmj.com/content/372/bmj.n18
sciencefocus.com/news/pfizer-covid-19-vaccine-is-90-per-cent-effective-study-suggests/

Novichok
7 Feb 2021  #4506

something so serious and tragic.

Covid is neither. The "covid" deaths-by-age curve overlaps the overall mortality curve from 2019 and before. At worst, covid speeds up deaths by a small fraction of the statistical life span.

Covid was made serious and tragic deliberately. In a moment of honesty, the CDC admitted that only 6% died from the virus while healthy.

cruisepatron
7 Feb 2021  #4507

To reduce their tax revenue?

the govt has much bigger weapon in its possession "The Printer"... AFAIK 40% of all USD in circulation were "minted" in 2020 alone.

tenor.com/view/money-printer-go-brr-jerome-powell-cash-money-printing-money-gif-17266014

jon357
7 Feb 2021  #4508

Covid is neither.

It's both. hence the currebt restrictions which nobody, least of all any government, wants.

he CDC .. 6% died from the virus while healthy.

6% while otherwise healthy is a lot - 120,000 out of 2 million. And don't forget those who aren't health; people with diabetes, poor general health, the over 70s, the overweight. That's a large demographic.

the govt has much bigger weapon in its possession "The Printer"

There are restrictions on how many PLN can be issued, and in any case the zloty is falling against the pound and euro due to natural correction.

cruisepatron
7 Feb 2021  #4509

There are restrictions on how many PLN can be issued

Those restrictions are meant for normal circumstances... during pandemic the government can do anything it sees fit for that given situation.

those who aren't health; people with diabetes, poor general health, the over 70s, the overweight.

What are their chances if they catch malaria, dengue or any other disease for that matter?

jon357
7 Feb 2021  #4510

That doesn't actually mean anything; the restriction on meeting, the closure of bars etc are entirely due to Covid.

mafketis
7 Feb 2021  #4511

currebt restrictions which nobody, least of all any government, wants.

You think zuckerberg and bezos and gates want the restrictions to end? my institution bought teams for thousands and thousands of people... you think microsoft wants to give the yearly subscriptions up?

johnny reb
7 Feb 2021  #4512

Never let a good crisis go to waste

cruisepatron
7 Feb 2021  #4513

You think zuckerberg and bezos and gates want the restrictions to end?

Who funded Biden? :)

mafketis
7 Feb 2021  #4514

Who was involved in a "a well-funded cabal of powerful people, ranging across industries and ideologies, working together behind the scenes to influence perceptions, change rules and laws, steer media coverage and control the flow of information" during the election? (quote courtesy of Time magazine).

They've bought him and he'll do what they say if he knows ehat's good for him....

Novichok
7 Feb 2021  #4515

Covid can't be stopped. It may not even go away.
Lockdowns and waves are rinse and repeat. The ruling scum knows that every unlocking will start another wave but they continue this bs anyway because they have no guts to say what I wrote above.

jon357
7 Feb 2021  #4516

zuckerberg and bezos and gates

They don't make the rules in Poland. Or in most places.

Lockdowns and waves are rinse and repeat.

Hence the need to get on with the vaccination programme as quickly and effectively as possible.

johnny reb
7 Feb 2021  #4517

Naw, herd immunity is the answer to Covid and not many fear it anymore.
The pharmaceutical who developed the vaccine have made their Trillions so now they need to ratchet it up for the next Trillion.
That's why they had to turn loose the muted varieties now to keep the fear going. $$$$

They've bought him and he'll do what they say if he knows ehat's good for him....

Spot on as he is just their puppet for a short period as Kamala will be taking over very soon now.

jon357
7 Feb 2021  #4518

herd immunity is the answer to Covid

This can only be achieved with large-scale vaccination.

turn loose the muted varieties now to keep the fear going. $$$$

Oh dear...

Spike31
7 Feb 2021  #4519

It's serious and deadly if you die of it

:-D That's one of the finest examples of newspeak that I've read on this forum so far

jon357
7 Feb 2021  #4520

newspeak

Or the plain truth.

Spike31
7 Feb 2021  #4521

Hydrogen oxide is a deadly substance. One can drown in it, and when boiled it may cause 3rd-degree burns. We've already lost countless lives to it.

We should limit human access to this deadly substance. @jon357, you should write a petition to the government about this serious matter. If you get it banned I'll get vaccinated, I swear.

jon357
7 Feb 2021  #4522

Hydrogen oxide

There is not however a pandemic of it, nor is it a virus.

We should limit human access to this deadly substance.

We do. We don't however allow people to poison reservoirs and we go to great lengths to avoid people letting themselves drown in it.

I'll get vaccinated, I swear.

You doubtless will be, if you want to fly on a plane.

MarieAntoinette
7 Feb 2021  #4523

It's serious and deadly if you die of it, a member of my family did. You should hand your wretched head in shame

I am sorry to hear of your loss. That is horrible.
My comment has nothing to do with disrespect towards your family member.
I did not even know, so don't take it personally.

Just when you look at the statistics, most people have a 99% recovery rate.
Again very sorry for your family member, I understand your reaction.

Vaccines are maybe greatest step forward in human medical history, on level with antibiotics, anaesthesia and antiseptics

We survived for 200.000 years without it.
Perfectly fine.
Did you ever study/read intensively about vaccines?
Did you ever spend a few hours reading about it?
Do you know what is in the vaccines?

For sure anaesthesia is great.

I look at India. They are protesting in masses on the street. Really masses.
Very close together, no masks.
Since September last year. Don't see them dying in the street.

But I do see people committing suicide, people who lost everything because of the lockdowns.
In our society, allover the world, people loose everything because of the lockdowns.

And, in Sweden and Japan they did not do any lockdowns, and they do not have higher death rates.

What is it?

What do you think?

jon357
7 Feb 2021  #4524

We survived for 200.000 years without it.
Perfectly fine.

Apart from dying significantly younger than we do now...

Do you know what is in the vaccines?

Doctors certainly do; which is why the medical profession as a whole strongly endorses it.

Do you really want to see the return of Polio and Smallpox?

mafketis
7 Feb 2021  #4525

What do you think?

I dunno... I'm not an anti-vaxxer or anything but I'm suspicious of these...

johnny reb
7 Feb 2021  #4526

Why do you think the figures of Covid deaths are so grossly over estimated ?
If you count flu deaths the way we now count Covid deaths, the actual number of reported flu deaths is only about 3,000-15,000 a year making the other figure a drastic over count which is why the comparison between the flu and Covid should never be made.

Put that into perspective that over 80,000 died from drug over doses last year.

Novichok
7 Feb 2021  #4527

6% while otherwise healthy is a lot - 120,000 out of 2 million

No, genius, they meant 6% of the 250,000 who died "with" corona in the US up that point or 15,000.

We survived for 200.000 years without it.

Today is different. It's "whatever it takes" and "every life is precious" matriarchal mentality - even if it means destroying the country.

Spike31
7 Feb 2021  #4528

You doubtless will be, if you want to fly on a plane.

This year we're planning a Eurotrip in our own car, visiting my friends in south France. This whole "pandemic" made me realize which persons in my life are bots and which are real people.

There is not however a pandemic of it, nor is it a virus.

No, it's not blasted all over the news for simps to get them panicked and act accordingly.

Pandemic...meanwhile, old people with coronary disease, strokes, cancers die silently. They are neglected because many hospitals are prepared to treat the Chinese flu patients only. Do you think that people simply stopped suffering from regular diseases just because Chinese flu panic is dominating the news?

What we're witnessing now is a slaughter of old sick folks, and people like you participate in it by supporting it.

Do you really want to see the return of Polio and Smallpox?

Those were real diseases not comparable with Chinese flu, with a mortality rate similar to common flu. And both types of flu mutate quickly. It becomes evident that that corona vaccination will take the form of regular dosage, most likely every 6 months. A golden opportunity for big pharma.

Novichok
7 Feb 2021  #4529

Pandemic...meanwhile, old people with coronary disease, strokes, cancers die silently.

I am really curious how the panic peddlers will handle 2019 to 2020 total deaths comparison.
My bet is that those numbers will be basically equal.

jon357
7 Feb 2021  #4530

This year we're planning a Eurotrip in our own car, visiting my friends in south France.

Regulations permitting.

Pandemic...

Yes; hence the lockdown.

Those were real diseases

As is covid. These were eradicated by vaccination; nothing else.


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