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Coronavirus in Poland



Spike31
7 Feb 2021  #4531

I am really curious how the panic peddlers will handle

They will handle it with denial.

2020 made me realize something that I suspected but wasn't 100% sure about: unfortunately, most people are not very smart and easily manipulated by primitive sociological techniques. And we have to live with it and minimize its impact on our lives.

MarieAntoinette
7 Feb 2021  #4532

Doctors certainly do; which is why the medical profession as a whole strongly endorses it.

Well, not as a whole.
More and more doctors speak out.

bitchute.com/video/20Q3xAn2aBg6/
Doctors WARN Against COVID-19 Vaccine Rollout

bitchute.com/video/Au4yXVJNp3mq/
covid-19 is "not on any scientific basis

Apart from dying significantly younger than we do now...

That was for other reasons.
War. Hardship.Hunger. Tough work/life. Hygriene.

If you were a rich boy/girl, you had a much longer lifespan.

Isaac Newton, in full Sir Isaac Newton, (born December 25, 1642 [January 4, 1643, New Style], Woolsthorpe, Lincolnshire, England-died March 20 [March 31], 1727, London)

Copernicus 70, not superold but still

Many of those, if you did not have to work in all weather outside, no big physical hardship etc. etc.
Your lifespan was quite high.

jon357
7 Feb 2021  #4533

More and more doctors

Fewer than 0.00001% of doctors maybe.

That was for other reasons.
War. Hardship.Hunger. Tough work/life. Hygriene.

So disease didn't come into it, then, as a cause of death?

Vaccines are a huge factor in why we live longer and better today. They're a huge part of what makes today's population healthier on longer living. Whether they work outdoors or are rich.

jon357
7 Feb 2021  #4534

Worth reading:
nhs.uk/conditions/vaccinations/why-vaccination-is-safe-and-important/

MarieAntoinette
7 Feb 2021  #4535

@jon357

Worth watching

bitchute.com/video/bYcc9VdQ6gG2/
Nurse shows AstraZeneca Vaccine content

jon357
7 Feb 2021  #4536

Nurse shows AstraZeneca

Or alleges.

There are hundreds of these dodgy anti-vaxxer videos on youtube or where ever they've had to move to since factchecking started. Anyone can make them.

The person that made that dodgy video isn't even a nurse; she was struck off the professional register for misconduct. She's well known in England and not taken seriously except by other cranks. She has quite a few odd ideas that she promotes on dodgy video sites, not only about medical matters (about which she's not qualified to speak except as a layperson anyway).

Spike31
7 Feb 2021  #4537

@jon357 you are free to inject whatever filth you like into your body.

Unlike you, I'm not a totalitarian minded bot, and I will not stop you nor force you to do so.

What I'm against are mandatory vaccinations against flu with unknown substances and totalitarian policies such as "covid passports" and all sorts of restricted movement policies.

jon357
7 Feb 2021  #4538

whatever filth

Do you think medicines are 'filth'?

What I'm against are mandatory vaccinations with unknown substances

Good, since medicine doesn't contain 'unknown substances', does it...

"covid passports" and all sorts of restricted movement

Tough. It doesn't matter whether you like it or you don't. You can always move to an uninhabited desert island where you don't have to endure such cruelties as public health policy, doctors, scientists and other pesky experts looking after your wellbeing.

cruisepatron
8 Feb 2021  #4539

Vaccines, antibiotics come with serious consequences. Why do you think we have something like COVID virus to begin with? Human body is the host for trillions of microorganisms so they will up their game as well to survive and that's how superbugs are born. It's a race against time... in the short run we are winning with respect to the rate of mutations but in the long run none of these meds with work anymore or meds will need to be powerful enough to kill us anyways.

jon357
8 Feb 2021  #4540

Vaccines .... come with serious consequences.

Do they? Perhaps yes, since saving lives, not getting polio, tetanus, smallpox, yellow fever, is a serious thing.

Why do you think we have something like COVID virus to begin with?

Nothing to do with vaccines at all.

cruisepatron
8 Feb 2021  #4541

Nothing to do with vaccines at all.

Vaccines are the aftermath... COVID vaccine exists today because COVID was born, why a flu virus needed to develop resistance is the direct impact of meds creating a tough host/environment for them to survive. This cycle will never end and ultimately a time will come when meds will stop working... It's only going to get worse with time, only difference is that day maybe several years down the line and we may be long gone.

Novichok
8 Feb 2021  #4542

This whole thing is becoming a cruel joke.

So far, Poland had 39,000 corona dead. That's 0,1% of the population. That's pandemic? One in a thousand is now a "pandemic"? What would 10% be? Ultra-super-mega pandemic?

On top of that, these numbers are lies. The virus deaths is the TOTAL deaths in 2020 minus 2019. If you want to be more precise, adjust for non-health deaths like suicides, murders, and accidents. What's left is the "pandemic".

PolAmKrakow
8 Feb 2021  #4543

Poland has given just about 1.5 million vaccines in about 6 weeks. The USA is doing about 1 million a day. In USA you can sign up to get a jab in a pharmacy, in Poland you have to get a physical before you can get stuck. At this rate, it will be about 2.5 years before Poland gets the vaccine to everyone. Hmmmm maybe the billions given to TVP should have gone to health services?

Churches will overflowing again yesterday. Packed in like sardines. Sure dont want to open up pubs though, and we definitely need to send police in to beat up those young people who go to the ones that open. Looking more and more like Russia here every day. Damn shame.

MarieAntoinette
8 Feb 2021  #4544

health policy, doctors, scientists and other pesky experts looking after your wellbeing.

What made you such a good docile little boy Jon?

not getting polio

Check the polio vaccine scandal in Africa.
Look who was involved again.

Also check howmany vaccines babies get, obligatory.
Oh wait, this is not true. But they make it seem as such.
You need to strongly hold your ground if you don't want your child to get it.

we definitely need to send police in to beat up those young people who go to the ones that open

wow, the beauty of mankind has no limits

Braveheart16
8 Feb 2021  #4545

PolAmKrakow - maybe the billions given to TVP should have gone to health services?

I presume that TVP is government sponsored.....if so what a waste of money, when it really could have been used to make much needed improvements to the health service and make a real difference to everyones lives....

jon357
8 Feb 2021  #4546

Vaccines are the aftermath

Vaccination is about prevention of disease.

why a flu virus needed to develop resistance is the direct impact of meds creating a tough host/environment for them to survive.

Really? That just sounds made up.

Look who was involved again.

What are you trying to suggest.

Anti-vaxx ideology has been discredited. So far here we've seen dodgy videos from a struck-off nurse (and notorious covid denier) and mysterious claims about people being 'involved'.

MarieAntoinette
8 Feb 2021  #4547

What are you trying to suggest.

I am trying to suggest that you do some research.

As the nurse was just reading and analysing the ingredients written on the Pfizer vaccin.
Totally legit, nothing dodgy about it. Nothing weird, just like you analyse the label on your chocolate bar or so.
She even tells you where to doublecheck it, all in the open, factual, no secrets.

So I am also suggesting that you read the below statement at least 5 times.

I've come to realize that the biggest problem anywhere in the world is that people's perceptions of reality are compulsively filtered through the screening mesh of what they want, and do not want, to be true.

What about the reply to my other question?

jon357
8 Feb 2021  #4548

I am trying to suggest that you do some research.

Online videos?

As the nurse

As you were told, she's not a nurse. She was struck off the professional register for misconduct.

"I am trying to suggest that you do some research." - Tens of thousands of actual docyors and scientists have "done some research" already, thanks.

By the way, you didn't answer the question:


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MarieAntoinette
8 Feb 2021  #4549

@jon357

I did reply, I said do some research.

But you like to put the response-ability for your life and well being in the hands of other people.
That is fine, maybe you should do that. Your body, your choice.

So you mean, she was a nurse, till she became disobedient to her masters.

jon357
8 Feb 2021  #4550

I said do some research.

Actual medical scientists, including some of the finest doctors in the world have done literally millions of hours of research already.

But hey, you've got an online video made by an ex-nurse who was struck off for misconduct.

And you still didn't say who you're trying to blame:


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cruisepatron
8 Feb 2021  #4551

Vaccination is about prevention of disease.

I haven't taken single vaccine in my entire life. Every time I got something I recovered like a normal person. If vaccines really was that effective then we won't be having those diseases around us anymore... but people still catch them. No vaccine can guarantee anything, if your body were to get a disease you will get it even after vaccine and some will die too - just like Norway (existing health conditions).

jon357
8 Feb 2021  #4552

If vaccines really was that effective then we won't be having those diseases around us anymore.

We don't have smallpox, polio or much measles or diphtheria precisely because of vaccination.

No vaccine can guarantee anything

It can however almost guarantee something; much much better than nothing at all.

cruisepatron
8 Feb 2021  #4553

We don't have smallpox, polio or much measles or diphtheria precisely because of vaccination.

Maybe smallpox but the rest in that list still very much exists and infects someone somewhere everyday... btw I'm sure many virus from the past got extinct by themselves without the need for any vaccine... much like Tasmanian tiger, dodo or dinosaurs... it's a part of evolution. If vaccines alone could eradicate diseases then it would have been true for all or the majority of diseases... sample size of 1 or 2 out of 100's proves nothing.

jon357
8 Feb 2021  #4554

infects someone somewhere everyday

Only the unvaccinated.
How many cases of Polio do you hear about in developed countries?

virus from the past got extinct by themselves

There's no evidence that anything other than immunisation has eradicated these diseases.

If vaccines alone could eradicate diseases then it would have been true for all or the majority of diseases.

Did you think that there are vaccines for "the majority of diseases"?

MarieAntoinette
8 Feb 2021  #4555

Actual medical scientists, including some of the finest doctors in the world have done literally millions of hours of research already.

But I am not a member of your religion Jon. That is the difference.

And for the polio vaccine experiments in Africa, you can do your own research, all the information is out there.
Africa has always been a testing ground for vaccine testing, as well as other poor countries.

Tacitus
8 Feb 2021  #4556

The effectivness of vaccination also heavily depends on each specific virus. We were in a way lucky with smallpox since the virus hardly changed its' structure for several centuries, which meant that the primitive vaccination methods of the 1700s remained effective (they were of course later changed for safer measures but still). Sadly the Covid virus is mutating for quicker.

jon357
8 Feb 2021  #4557

But I am not a member of your religion

What religion?

you can do your own research, all the information is out there.

On Youtube? From struck-off ex-nurses, Piers Corbyn and other cranks?

Vaccination against Polio has been a massive advantage to the world; that is why Jonas Salk is so highly revered.

rozumiemnic
8 Feb 2021  #4558

'Piers Corbyn and other cranks ' lol lol lol

jon357
8 Feb 2021  #4559

He is a bit of a character, isn't he...
londonnewsonline.co.uk/piers-corbyn-arrested-over-leaflets-likening-covid-19-vaccination-to-auschwitz/

rozumiemnic
8 Feb 2021  #4560

Weirdly I know some of his neighbours in south london.
They telle amusing anecdotes from the neighbourhood meetings which he takes over of course with a clipboard and calls everyone 'comrade' ... allegedly he is manipulative etc what a surprise.


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