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Coronavirus in Poland



jon357
8 Feb 2021  #4561

As Jeremy Corbyn's son said, "every family has an Uncle Piers".

Though thinking about it, mine doesn't.

All my older relatives have had the first dose of the (Pfizer) vaccine now. Those that have survived covid anyway. There may well be covid deniers out there; very few of them are people who've lost a loved one to it.

Spike31
8 Feb 2021  #4562

There may well be covid deniers out there

Covid deniers, that sounds serious :-)

I, on the other hand, do not deny the existence of a Chinese flu, just like I don't deny the existence of the common flu. Right from the beginning, I questioned mortality rates of corona flu and the further developments proved me right.

And no matter what fanatics say I will live my life as normal as possible in current circumstances and I will challenge moronic restrictions whenever possible.

jon357
8 Feb 2021  #4563

Covid deniers, that sounds serious :-)

It is, however fortunately people don't take them seriously.

I, on the other hand,

Ditto.

Novichok
8 Feb 2021  #4564

I questioned mortality rates of corona flu

I don't question. I claim that the numbers are damn lies. Here is why.

I called a hospital where I live and asked the PR person if they distinguish between "with" and "from". No, we don't.

Case closed.

Spike31
8 Feb 2021  #4565

When masks in large grocery stores became mandatory I opted out from shopping there and started ordering groceries online.

However, last week I went to Tesco metro. I had no mask and argued my way in with security:

- where is your mask?
- I don't have any and I never had one
- You cannot enter without the mask
- I just saw an old man walking out without the mask
- he had an exemption
- on what ground?
- he had problems with breading
- I also have problems with breading when a piece of clothing is covering my mouth. I breathe much better without it, I can assure you of that

- [smile under mask] OK, OK just go in already...

In the crowd of 70-80 people, I was the only person with a human face.

Nobody has challenged me about the lack of visual obedience, that is dust mask, which was quite common just 4-6 months ago. All I saw was a bunch of people tired of this new absurdity...

jon357
8 Feb 2021  #4566

Case closed.

If any 'case' were 'closed', we wouldn't be in the mess we're in, with a huge death toll and crippling restrictions on businesses and travel.

Novichok
9 Feb 2021  #4567

with a huge death toll and crippling restrictions on businesses and travel.

You don't know what the "death toll" is. You will when the totals for 2019 and 2020 are compared.
Restrictions on business are self-inflicted and pointless because one day soon they will have to be removed, with the big bad wolf waiting...
Scared of dying? Stay home.

- where is your mask?

I can beat that story...

I was in the examination room waiting for the doc. Alone. Mask off. A nurse walks in and says, you have to put your mask on. But I just had a heart attack a week ago (that was a lie), I have asthma (that was a lie, too), and I have high blood pressure (my pressure is perfect), and I am not putting anyone at risk since I am alone here (which was true). Sir, you have to put your mask on.

I wish upon these robots instant death.

I rest my case.

PolAmKrakow
9 Feb 2021  #4568

I am heading back to the US for Easter. Should be interesting traveling there for the first time since July. Signing up to get the jab if the J&J one is available by then. Getting one here in Poland will likely take another year or two.

Numbers of deaths continue to drop or remain stable in Poland. In two weeks it will be interesting to see what PiS does to restrictions when the numbers have not risen with a lowering of restrictions.

Cargo pants
9 Feb 2021  #4569

I am heading back to the US for Easter.

Remember to get your PCR test with new regulations,buggers made this law for airlines who fly to the USA even for US citizens but when you land THEY RECOMMEND to quarantine for 7 days

cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/travelers/testing-international-air-travelers.html#:~:text=On%20January%2012%2C%202021%2C%20CDC,airline%20before%20boarding%20the%20flight.

kondzior
9 Feb 2021  #4570

notorious covid denier

When there were videos of people dropping like flies in Wuhan, those of us who believed it was serious did so because there was evidence. Evidence that later turned out to have apparently been fabricated by the sneaky Chinee, but evidence nonetheless. Now I believe it's no big deal because that's what the current evidence suggests - almost no one who isn't extremely old is dying, intentionally misdiagnosing other causes of death as being Covid is incentivized, and there are almost no deaths from the flu, suggesting that flu deaths are nearly all being put down as Covid.

Now let's look at the Troo Believer. When the virus first hit the news, he believed the "experts" who insisted that it was less severe than a flu and to say otherwise would be racist against our wonderful Chinese friends. Then the narrative shifted to the virus being a little more dangerous, but he didn't wear a mask because the experts said that they don't help, all you need to do is wash your hands.

A few months later that's all been memory holed, the experts say the virus is super deadly and we all need to wear masks forever and the Troo Believer doesn't remember them ever saying anything different. And now he's eager to take a rushed vaccine that's had no testing for long term effects, because those same experts who have been caught lying multiple times are insisting that it's safe, something that they can't possibly know without more testing. But he isn't going to question it, because he's a coward - the media, government and Big Pharma have to be on our side, because if they weren't that would be scary.

MarieAntoinette
9 Feb 2021  #4571

The person that made that dodgy video isn't even a nurse;

Even if it was a monkey, she still tells the truth.
She is reading out 1 on 1 what is on the label, and she tells you how to doublecheck the things she says yourself.

bitchute.com/video/bYcc9VdQ6gG2/
Nurse shows AstraZeneca Vaccine content

Nothing special, shady or dodgy, you can form your own opinion about it. And do your own further research.

MarieAntoinette
9 Feb 2021  #4572

Jonas Salk

Interesting profile. Interesting early life and education.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jonas_Salk#Early_life_and_education

ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1383764/
The Cutter Incident: How America's First Polio Vaccine Led to a Growing Vaccine Crisis
The mistake produced 120,000 doses of polio vaccine that contained live polio virus

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cutter_Laboratories
On April 12, 1955, following the announcement of the success of the polio vaccine trial, Cutter Laboratories became one of several companies that was recommended to be given a license by the United States government to produce Salk's polio vaccine.

documents.uow.edu.au/~bmartin/pubs/94tld.html
Polio vaccines and the origin of AIDS:the career of a threatening idea
Published in Townsend Letter for Doctors, No. 126, January 1994, pp. 97-100.

The last one quite controversial, but interesting to read nonetheless.

PolAmKrakow
9 Feb 2021  #4573

@Cargo pants
I am all over the test. It really is a pain in the a$$. But if I can get the vaccine done while there at least it will eliminate some issues down the road. Make way for vaccine passports starting before the end of the year. Poland is at the front of the line recommending all EU has them.

jon357
9 Feb 2021  #4574

Interesting profile.

A great human. Nothing stands out about his early life though> What are you referring to?

Even if it was a monkey, she still tells the truth.

She's a fear-mongering conspiracist, spreading anti-vax lies.

Cargo pants
9 Feb 2021  #4575

I am all over the test. It really is a pain in the a$$

Me too the sad part is I have to pay 420pln even with my best Medicover plan.

But if I can get the vaccine done while there

I doubt it by April,I am thinking around May/June,I plan to come back in April,but will change plans depending when I get the jab.I know it will be like that PPE shortage last year and vaccine will be dime a dozen.

MarieAntoinette
9 Feb 2021  #4576

She's a fear-mongering conspiracist, spreading anti-vax lies.

Does truth make you scared Jon

jon357
9 Feb 2021  #4577

truth

Why do you think anti-vaxxers' youtube propaganda lies are 'truth'?

And why do you say the early lives of Jonas Salk, Larry Page and Sergei Brin are "interesting"? What aspect do you find "interesting"?

Crow
9 Feb 2021  #4578

Article

"The Westernmost Western Media" claims: Russian vaccine - the most effective

With an efficiency rate exceeding 90 percent, it has been determined that the Russian vaccine is more effective than the Chinese one, Bloomberg writes


MarieAntoinette
9 Feb 2021  #4579

Why do you think anti-vaxxers' youtube propaganda lies are 'truth'?

On the video that I showed you, the nurse reads the label of the vaccine of Astra Zeneca.
Why do you say that the label on the vaccine is not true?
You don't trust Astra Zeneca?
Do you think they lie on their product labels?

Dirk diggler
9 Feb 2021  #4580

You don't trust Astra Zeneca?

I don't trust any company where you can't sue them if their product makes you end up seriously deformed or dead.

One of Iran' Shiite clerics says the covid vaccine makes you gay. I find him more truthful than Astrazeneca or Pfizer or any of the others.

I trust this guy. It's all about physiognomy. His face shows that he knows what's up, and he doesn't like it.


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jon357
9 Feb 2021  #4581

the nurse

What 'nurse'? There is no 'nurse' in that 'bitchute' video. The dodgy video was in any case aimed at laypeople rather than scientists. Neither they (nor she) are qualified to interpret a medicine's full ingredient list. Are you?

Anyway, you've been avoiding the obvious question:


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Miloslaw
9 Feb 2021  #4582

And why do you say the early lives of Jonas Salk, Larry Page and Sergei Brin are "interesting"?

The only thing I can see that they all have in common is that happen to be Jewish...... do we have our first Vegan anti semite on PF?

Loves animals but hates Jews?

Stick to the topic please

Chemikiem
10 Feb 2021  #4583

Why do you say that the label on the vaccine is not true?

Read this:

fullfact.org/online/foetal-cells-covid-vaccine/

Crow
10 Feb 2021  #4584

His face shows that he knows what's up, and he doesn't like it.

Yes, I would also say he is aware of the truth.

johnny reb
11 Feb 2021  #4585

Wife: Did I get fat during quarantine ?
Husband: You weren't real skinny to begin with.
Time of death: 11p.m.
Cause of death: Covid

Spike31
12 Feb 2021  #4586

@johnny reb

Gimme all your money or I will sneeze!

Crow
12 Feb 2021  #4587

Eh Poland is lucky. Her strategic partner Serbia will produce the Russian vaccine Sputnik V.

Miloslaw
12 Feb 2021  #4588

Eh Poland is lucky. Her strategic partner Serbia

When did Scabia become a strategic partner to Poland?
I want dates, times and links to the treaties.......

Crow
13 Feb 2021  #4589

Fine. You want all that you do the Google or whatever search. I will continue to post in accordance with my opinion.

I see Poland and Serbia as strategic partners and that's it. I don't have any other way to explain to myself that Poland allowed Serbia to use Poland's air space for the import of most heavy weaponry from Russia, no matter EU, and NATO complaints.

Here is (besides TV reports) Poland mentioned in that context >

How did Russian armored vehicles reach Serbia despite EU sanctions? Hungary held the key
telegraf.rs/english/3088293-how-did-russian-armored-vehicles-reach-serbia-despite-eu-sanctions-hungary-held-the-key

Scabia

Let's be civilized and on topic.

MarieAntoinette
13 Feb 2021  #4590

Read this:

I did read it.

They write very cleverly. (but actually not really)

The cell strain referenced isn't used to manufacture the vaccine.
A different cell strain, derived from kidney cells taken from a female foetus aborted in the 1970s was used to propagate the virus for the vaccine.

Can you tell me why you chose to believe what is written there?


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