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Coronavirus in Poland
kondzior
25 Feb 2021 #4802
They've already said that we're never going back to the way things were before the virus, without much ambiguity.
If you wanna believe in the benevolent intentions of our elites, that's your prerogative.
jon357
25 Feb 2021 #4803
They'
Who?
our elites,
Oh dear.
This thread is about covid here in Poland.
Not about conspiracy theories across the Atlantic.
mafketis
25 Feb 2021 #4804
Not about conspiracy theories across the Atlantic.
And there are some dangerous theories out there, like this one....
babylonbee.com/news/dangerous-conspiracy-theorist-doesnt-believe-vaccines-work
"He spouted his deadly rhetoric in a speech today, going on about how even if Americans get two doses of the vaccine they should keep triple-masking, avoid going outside, and stay in their homes and die alone."
Novichok
25 Feb 2021 #4805
Not about conspiracy theories across the Atlantic.
We are the "global community" so what is true in the US or Poland is true everywhere else.
Did you know that covid mortality rates in the US and Peru are the same?
And there are some dangerous theories out there, like this one....
I read the article and still can't figure out if you were sarcastic.
I question I have is simple. Am I a spreader if vaccinated? I want a simple yes or no that "science" should be able to give me.
If "no", then I don't have to wear a mask.
jon357
25 Feb 2021 #4806
dangerous theories out there
Many, however not that one.
Meanwhile, restrictions are slightly increased here.
Lenka
25 Feb 2021 #4807
Make poor choices and pay the consequences.
We all have some unhealthy habits, some are just nit as visible and easy to judge on
And maybe you'll tell us at what age you will finish yourself or are you planning on waiting for death?
mafketis
25 Feb 2021 #4808
Many, however not that one.
Isn't it crazy? two vaccines and still need to mask and not go outside? Who could fall for such crazy ideas?
Lenka
25 Feb 2021 #4809
Apparently I've been recognised as being at higher risk and now been offered the vaccine but I'm not in any rush to call them...
Novichok
25 Feb 2021 #4810
And maybe you'll tell us at what age you will finish yourself or are you planning on waiting for death?
Just as I don't have any legal obligation to protect others from violent crimes, I should not have any obligation to protect others from other risks by putting my health at risk.
Being under house arrest, depressed, and financially broke was never in the social contract.
johnny reb
25 Feb 2021 #4811
I've been recognised as being at higher risk and now been offered the vaccine
High risk is people over 65 years old and or obese.
Now we all know that you are nowhere close to 65 so does that mean.........never mind.
jon357
25 Feb 2021 #4812
Isn't it crazy? two vaccines and still need to mask and not go outside?
They're being belt and braces careful, for sure. Even stricter in the UK where I'll be in a while.
I'll be glad when all this is over, somewhere warm and sunny that just doesn't care.
Novichok
25 Feb 2021 #4813
High risk is people over 65 years old
And retired. Let them hide instead of locking others out of their jobs, into depression and poverty.
This whole lockdown is insanity and the mortality vs age curve proves it.
mafketis
25 Feb 2021 #4814
Crazy dysfunctional reactions....
summit.news/2021/02/25/image-shows-school-band-socially-distanced-inside-human-tents/
Crnogorac3
25 Feb 2021 #4819
You sniff conspiracy everywhere and then you swallow the biggest bullshit of our times called "covid pandemic"
If there was a line where you would get to eat $hit Crow would be among the first to volunteer in order to please his party leader. He is a bot.
mafketis
26 Feb 2021 #4820
This should be required reading.... (my favorite bit: those behind the lockdown policies are a Maoist and a China lobbyist)
How did we get to this incredibly stupid place?
threadreaderapp.com/thread/1364954548427702281.html
PolAmKrakow
26 Feb 2021 #4821
@Lenka
I am waiting for death like everyone else. But I will be around longer than the obese, and poor decision makers. Am thinking about going door to door handing out paczki just to speed the process along. lol
johnny reb
26 Feb 2021 #4822
Gathering the number of positive cases from the two groups, researchers found that the odds of testing positive for COVID were reduced by 24 percent for patients who had been vaccinated against the flu compared to those who hadn't been.
At this point it also looks like people will have to be re-vaccinated annually for Covid.
PolAmKrakow
26 Feb 2021 #4823
@johnny reb
Just like flu. Another endemic that will never be cured. Moving along now we return you to the life that you were living before we blew all this out of proportion for a bunch of people who were going to die anyway.
mafketis
26 Feb 2021 #4824
An interesting take on how to deal with a virus vs what has actually happened....
short story: policy was taken over by people who don't know what they were doing.... social distancing and general lockdowns are at best misguided and at worst.... make the virus worse (you end up coddling and cultivating it giving it longer to mutate into new varieties...)
dunctank.podbean.com/e/sam-vaknin-coronavirus-in-a-narcissistic-society/
Novichok
26 Feb 2021 #4825
policy was taken over by people who don't know what they were doing
You are being too kind.
kondzior
26 Feb 2021 #4826
I will ask a question guys, pls only answer smart people, so not Jon, Lenka and other covitards.
If your primary goal was to sterilize/kill 1/3 of population, and you had more than 1 vax with the possibility to give a small minority a different vax than the majority, and also wanted to convince the majority the vax is safe, in wich of the two vaxxes would you put a sterilization/oncogenic agent?
johnny reb
26 Feb 2021 #4827
If your primary goal was to sterilize/kill 1/3 of population,
This is a trick question, Right ?
Spike31
27 Feb 2021 #4828
Just like flu. Another endemic that will never be cured
Common flu died from corona :-)
What's not to understand?

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chrisshrew
28 Feb 2021 #4829
I see that there's been some misreporting on the vaccination stats. Some websites claim that just over 3 million Poles have been vaccinated. Others claim however that 3 million is the number of jabs and 2 million is the figure for how many have had it.
Even at what looks like a hundred thousand a day it would take till the end of summer to get half done and next winter for everyone, that is of course if they concentrate on people rather than jabs. Would be interesting to know what the threshold for some normality will be, it will have to be quite low on a realistic level.
Braveheart16
28 Feb 2021 #4830
chrisshrew - Would be interesting to know what the threshold for some normality will be, it will have to be quite low on a realistic level.
I believe from what is said that to make some meaningful difference and a return to normality, at least 70% of the population would need to be vaccinated....
