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Coronavirus in Poland



johnny reb
27 Mar 2021  #5611

Jon is so afraid of catching the virus he flew back to the UK to get the jab..lol

I don't blame him, Joker.
H.I.V. people have a very low immunity and that is what A.I.D.'s attack is the immune system.
That FACT is that only the overweight and old people with under lying causes with low immune systems are the ones being hospitalized and dying.

The young healthy people generally don't even know they have it and that is why it is spreading in that age group.

jon357
27 Mar 2021  #5612

That FACT is that only the overweight and old people with under lying causes with low immune systems are the ones being hospitalized and dying.

So you need to isolate.

H.I.V. people have a very low immunity

Fortunately, I've a good immune system. I'll still have the vaccine though, when it becomes available; reaching herd immunity will hasten the return to normal life.

The take-up rate is good. Fortunately most people don't take conspiracy woo seriously.

johnny reb
27 Mar 2021  #5613

@JR,J&J vaccine is available here in NJ now,how about at your place? are you gonna get it?

Yes, not that I fear getting the virus as I have already had it.
I got a J&J to show respect for my fellow countrymen so not to be a spreader.
Most likely my hemoglobin has built up immunity to Covid already.
I chose the J&J as the side effects are much more mild then the other two plus it is not a rDNA live virus.

Not that I want to have children at this point in my life but you have to remember a very important FACT.
The young and healthy are not the ones being effected, it is those with a low immune system that are at high risk.
I am a very healthy person with no underlying causes to lower my immune system so a J&J fits my program just fine.

mafketis
27 Mar 2021  #5614

reaching herd immunity will hasten the return to normal life.

Such pretty delusions....

bbc.com/news/uk-56475666

bbc.com/news/uk-56475807

instituteforgovernment.org.uk/publications/coronavirus-no-back-normal

"The precautions that may have to be taken for a long time - perhaps for our lifetimes - against coronavirus and its variants will change the way people conduct their lives."

jon357
27 Mar 2021  #5615

The young and healthy are not the ones being effected,

This is generally true, however there have been a lot of serious cases of people getting seriously ill with it who don't have underlying issues.

And in any case, those with underlying issues are just as important as those without.

not to be a spreader.

This is important, hence measures like quarantine.

I have already had it.

You said a while ago that you hadn't. At least you've had the vaccine, assuming you're telling the truth about that.

johnny reb
27 Mar 2021  #5616

You said a while ago that you hadn't.

Not true jon, go way back in this thread where I posted that I contracted it a year ago this month.

Fortunately, I've a good immune system.

So you claim, jon, but in reality someone who sits in front of a computer 24/7/365 for 15 years and is a heavy smoker doesn't fit that description.

You get ZERO cardio exercise.
And please don't insult our intelligence by denying that.

Many here have expressed fear for the "experimental vaccines' which is a good thing.
That means that they are paying attention.
Those rDNA vaccines make me very nervous to be honest.
rDNA vaccine technology to genetically modify live viruses so that they can still elicit an immune response, but not be pathogenic.
This requires knowing what genes in the virus are associated with viral replication and subsequently deleting or knocking those genes out.

To me that is just not natural to do to our bodies and there is no turning back once you have been injected with it.

Right Bill Gates & dr. Fucci ?

jon357
27 Mar 2021  #5617

You've actually made two contradictory claims about Covid, but never mind; we expect lies.

sits in front of a computer

You're outdated. And don't understand modern work patterns.

a heavy smoker

A non-smoker.

To me that is just not natural to do to our bodies

Nor are transplants, yet you had one. Surgery, medication, even dentistry and glasses; none of it is 'natural', yet it isl beneficial and often lifesaving.

Remember, vaccination is probably the biggest single medical advance that humanity has made so far. See much polio nowadays, do you?

kondzior
27 Mar 2021  #5618

the overweight

It's almost as if staying at home all the time and not going to the gym is making you gain weight if you don't cut the calories you'd usually burn via walking or somesuch...

amiga500
27 Mar 2021  #5619

Jon I thought you were sopoused to be quarantine in the UK? what are you doing out? and why is there urine in the bottle?


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kondzior
27 Mar 2021  #5620

Wait what's the uptake in the UK even? 70%? 80%? What's the problem even?
That escalated pretty quickly from "We need 70% to 80% of adults immune through vaccination or past infection to reach herd immunity" to "The 20% are the problem!!!"

All I'm reading in the UK is they're already casting doubts on summer holidays abroad (which were perfectly possible in 2020 without vaccines or tests), and I'm thinking: if I lived there and was eligible for the vaccine, I'd appreciate it if they at least tried to bribe me with something tangible. Selling my soul to pharma? Okay, what's the offer? I'm listening. Oh your offer is nothing? Or nothing until summer and then a load of maybe, perhaps, what if, mayhaps, depending on the infection numbers at that point? Well gosh gee let me think about that one.

Novichok
27 Mar 2021  #5621

not going to the gym

Gyms are more psychological than useful. With just 300 bucks worth of equipment, anybody can have a good workout at home but it does take some willpower.

cut the calories

Most people don't cut and blame their metabolism. There no reason to gain weight under any conditions or as we age. It's the unintended loss of weight that's scary.

johnny reb
27 Mar 2021  #5622

we expect lies.

Like you saying that I admitted not having Covis lie ? (hypocrite)

ou're outdated. And don't understand modern work patterns.

What's your point ?
You still sit behind your computer 24/7/365 for the last 15 years without getting any serious exercise. Yes

A non-smoker.

You must have just recently quit as there was a eye witness that contradicts you.
You were seen chain smoking with yellow nicotine fingers.
Of course you can deny that too.

none of it is 'natural',

True but the rDNA is a whole different ball game that fcks with your DNA.
Plus the polio vaccine is tried and true where the Covid is an "experimental" vaccine.

jon357
27 Mar 2021  #5623

Wait what's the uptake in the UK even? 70%? 80%? What's the problem even?

Higher, and the vaccination programme here is a great success.

Well gosh gee let me think about that one.

You don't need to; the Chief Medical Officer, the scientific advisors, and the elected politicians have to think about it. Rather a lot even. They haven't yet made a decision of traveling for leisure, however it isn't something that they're eager to prevent. Everything will depend on the stats and hard evidence.

You must have just recently quit

2013.

However, as we know, you just make things up.

Interesting that someone can be a. behind a computer 24/7 (something you yourself are an expert on), and b. seen out and about by a non-existent 'eyewitness'.

Chemikiem
27 Mar 2021  #5624

go way back in this thread where I posted that I contracted it a year ago this month.

I'll go back to October last year when you said this:

"I have taken the college kids mentality and have decided to go catch it intentionally so I can get over it and get on with my life."

polishforums.com/news/poland-coronavirus-85511/113/#msg1755543

Stop lying. Jon's aunty has died from Covid and my friend has a damaged heart and lungs from it. Her life as she knew it is over. Attention seeking for sympathy as you have been doing with your long Covid bullsh!t story is stooping to a new low.

Novichok
27 Mar 2021  #5625

Eventually, obedience is consent. Those who consent have no moral right to complain. That general rule applies to the covid terrorism, too.

johnny reb
27 Mar 2021  #5626

2013.However, as we know, you just make things up.

Nope it was within the last couple of years according to the eye witness.
And you made up that lie about me which is a proven lie while you haven't prove your denial.

(something you yourself are an expert on)

How many times did you go skiing this winter or go out snow blowing for three hours at a crack wrestling a snow blower or workout on a bike spinner for your cardio ?

None is the correct answer. Yes
In fact I am off for a couple of runs at the ski resort shortly here.

I'll go back to October last year when you said this:

You wouldn't know sarcasm if it came up and bit you in the ass.

mafketis
27 Mar 2021  #5627

there was a eye witness

Is your middle name Stasi? What kind of creepy weirdo has 'eye witness' reports on forum members?

Chemikiem
27 Mar 2021  #5628

I am a very healthy person

I am off for a couple of runs at the ski resort shortly here.

My friend cannot even go for a walk with the damage that Covid has done to her body, but you are apparently healthy enough to throw yourself off a mountain on two planks of wood. Lord, it's a miracle! Especially given that you said this about the state of your health:

"The x-rays of my lungs look like I have long slivers of glass in them from so much scar tissue."

polishforums.com/news/poland-coronavirus-85511/137/#msg1766081

"I am one of them with scarred lungs AND heart."

Stop lying.

johnny reb
27 Mar 2021  #5629

Am I to be shamed with name calling by a dweeb like you because I have friends in Warsaw who attended the same Curry Club as Harry and jon back in the day ?

Please use your Ignore function like jon did for my account. lol
That goes for you too, SPam.

Stop lying.

Why would you Assume I am lying ?
Someone with those conditions can still ski.
Hells bells I am even planning a trip to Poland when I get time.
You really should quit stalking me to shame me because you only get yourself upset.

mafketis
27 Mar 2021  #5630

Why would you Assume I am lying ?

Cause you're posting something.... I can't even imagine you writing anything truthful...

jon357
27 Mar 2021  #5631

attended the same Curry Club

Sorry to shatter your fantasy and lies, however I've never attended any 'curry club'. There used to be one in Warsaw for English-speaking residents, however I wasn't among them. Your non-existent imaginary eyewitness must have had too much lager with his chicken tikka masala.

My friend cannot even go for a walk with the damage that Covid has done to her body,

It's a serious illness. The permanent damage it can cause wrecks lives.

chrisshrew
27 Mar 2021  #5632

In the UK, the conversation seems to have moved on to vaccine passports for social activities. Blood test for going to the pub was even suggested lol. While it could be an option for international travel I think for some other leisure activities it could be unpractical. I wonder if other countries will consider it as an option.

johnny reb
27 Mar 2021  #5633

I can't even imagine you writing anything truthful...

Honestly now, do you really think anyone cares about your imagination ?

The permanent damage it can cause wrecks lives.

REALLY jon, tell us more as you seem to be more of an expert about it than me who lives with it.

jon357
27 Mar 2021  #5634

Blood test for going to the pub was even suggested lol.

I can't see that working at all.Vaccine passports for travel? Maybe, though people unable to have the vaccine would need one too, with their exemption marked on it. It's not such a radical idea though; proof of vaccination is occasionally needed for visiting certain countries. It's only practical though, once the vaccine rollout is closer to completion, and there are currently inequalities in distribution.

vaccine passports for social activities.

There seems to be a lot of discussion about how practical that is. The licensed trade are very against it, and there are of course issues about how it would be enforced.

me who lives with it.

No, you don't.

johnny reb
27 Mar 2021  #5635

While it could be an option for international travel

It's just a matter of time before we are all required to have a chip transplant which will include all of our health records on it too.

No, you don't.

So now you are pretending to be my personal physician too ? lmao
What happened with your threat of putting me on your ignore list Dr. Knowitall ?
Time for me to go take a couple of ski runs.............. and what did you do for your cardio exercise today, jon ?

PolAmKrakow
27 Mar 2021  #5636

Vaccine travel passports will definitely happen. Poland and other countries already talking about them. People who cant get them will be on the travel allowed on with test completed and verified with 72 hours like it is now. Cant get on any international flight without having everything documented and verifiable.

mafketis
27 Mar 2021  #5637

Vaccine travel passports will definitely happen

It's funny how the idea went from "Crazy conspiracy idea!" to "Of course we need them!" within a few months.

This is not directed at you since I don't know if you ever expressed an opinion on them - but when some said they were coming they were ridiculed by the same people saying they are needed now.

Herd immunity, meet herd mentality....

jon357
27 Mar 2021  #5638

Vaccine travel passports will definitely happen.

No real difference to the vaccination certificates (Yellow Fever etc) that are needed to cross certain borders anyway.

travel allowed on with test completed and verified with 72 hours like it is now.

Testing facilities at airports will probably become the new normal. Results in 20 minutes, certificate (probably also available in digital form like an online boarding pass) needed for check in or before the security check.

Time for me to go take a couple of ski runs.

He forgets we've all seen photos of him. The one in the Skype photo shows someone morbidly obese who obviously doesn't find it easy to stand.

chrisshrew
27 Mar 2021  #5639

There seems to be a lot of discussion about how practical that is.

Yeah I've heard it could be up to the owner of the business, with pubs I can't see how it would work certainly. What if for instance fake ones start being produced or just ends putting people off going?

Also there is a growing demand in the UK that complete normality returns after the rollout is complete in the summer and many feel that having to prove vaccination after herd immunity has been reached would be a step too far for places like bars and restaurants in particular. Especially as many of the less vulnerable groups will get the jab more because of the desire for normality than to be protected.

Novichok
27 Mar 2021  #5640

Herd immunity, meet herd mentality....

...and the boot-lickers swallowing every damn covid lie as gospel.


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