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Coronavirus in Poland



mafketis
13 Apr 2021  #5911

It's not about health or a virus.... it's all about the lockdowns....

news.sky.com/story/covid-19-lockdown-is-main-reason-for-drop-in-coronavirus-cases-and-deaths-not-vaccinations-says-boris-johnson-12274266

The vaccines were only ever meant to get people to think there's a light at the end of the tunnel - BJ is saying that that light is more lockdowns.

I fully expect a new dangerous 'variant' that's resistant to vaccines to emerge shortly to get everybody back to square one.

But don't listen to them, just keep telling yourself it's a 'conspiracy theory'....

PolAmKrakow
13 Apr 2021  #5912

@mafketis
How about we just don't care any more. Conspiracy theory or real threat, enough is enough. People haven't stopped dying. We have only slowed down the pace of deaths in some places. I am in the camp of lets get it over with and let the virus do its thing.

Joker
13 Apr 2021  #5913

I fully expect a new dangerous 'variant' that's resistant to vaccines to emerge shortly

I expect 3 or 4 different variants being promoted from charlatans like Dr. Fauci here in the USA. The thing is, ppl are no longer listening to these so called "experts" as we know they are political puppets driven by a libtard agenda.

johnny reb
13 Apr 2021  #5914

It's all about Money & Control.
Money
The elites are getting very rich off this.
Many non elites have lost their businesses and jobs.
Control
How many freedoms have we lost so far with no end in sight.

amiga500
13 Apr 2021  #5915

Great podcast that gets into what many people have been posting. The suppression of early treatments, how doctors have been let down by the authorities, imposition of iffy lockdowns whilst waiting for the multi billlion vaccine industry . This ain't some G.P but a world renowned leader in his field. thewhistleblowernewsroom.podbean.com/e/the-whistleblower-newsroom-040921/

lets get it over with and let the virus do its thing.

How about we treat people with medicines as outpatients as soon as they have symptoms. It's just grade 12 logic

PolAmKrakow
13 Apr 2021  #5916

@amiga500
How about most people have no symptoms so lets let the virus do its thing. I just got done with quarantine. I had a slight once every few hours dry cough for three or four days. No fever, nothing else. The majority of people walk away. One tenth of one percent die, and that's a debatable number.

amiga500
13 Apr 2021  #5917

Did you get a retest? so it wasin't a false positive? It doesn't matter if the vast majority of people walk away if the hospitals are full and people can't get their cancer treatments or heart operations.

Cargo pants
13 Apr 2021  #5918

@PolAmKrakow
Man how did your covid test go?? Did you go back??I came here yesterday they were checking my covid test than my vaccination card so I called the consulate and asked why they didnt inform us and they even didnt know that and Polish Govt didnt inform them also.A confused state here,

PolAmKrakow
13 Apr 2021  #5919

@Cargo pants

I didn't get a retest. Going to States on the 26th so I figured I would just finish the quarantine.

@amiga500

Who's fault is it that the hospitals are full and other important medical procedures cant be performed or taken care of? Who did not prepare for all these "waves"?

mafketis
13 Apr 2021  #5920

I am in the camp of lets get it over with and let the virus do its thing.

Me too.

Who did not prepare for all these "waves"?

could it be...... SATA..... uh I mean PiS???????

Crow
13 Apr 2021  #5921

One European and Slavic country is more efficient then EU

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Dirk diggler
14 Apr 2021  #5922

more like gullible and paranoid...

mafketis
14 Apr 2021  #5923

Data of today....

percent of positive test results: 21.48 % (of 99,100 tests - still well below the peak ten or so days ago)

hospital admissions: -713

deaths: 803 (one of the highest daily totals)

from the previous day*: 7 day moving average of daily deaths: 581 (up 86 from yesterday) again, this will be the last significant parameter to fall...

*the source I use is a day behind and I'm too lazy to calculate on my own

PolAmKrakow
14 Apr 2021  #5924

Thankfully 9 out of 10 deaths are PiS voters. So, not completely downsided.

johnny reb
14 Apr 2021  #5925

@PolAm
Everything the governments are doing right now is designed to make you fat, weak, stupid, depressed, lazy and rely on crumbs they wipe off their plates.

Health replaced by pharmaceuticals.
Education replaced by programming.
Hard work replaced by handouts.
These people hate you.

kondzior
14 Apr 2021  #5926

There's too much (dis)information regarding covid, the vaccine and the measures. Ultimately none of us can know anything for certain. What we do know however is that there's a clear push to get people to get vaxxed, not only that but the politicians, the tech guys, they're all in on it. There is clearly an agenda, and I honestly doubt the aforementioned groups are simply concerned about their human livestock.

The issue of covid vaccinations is a simple one. Do you trust your elites? Cause not trusting those foocks is neither a theory, nor a conspiracy, based on all we've seen from them up to this point, it's just common sense.

Spike31
14 Apr 2021  #5927

The truth about vaccine passports

odysee.com/@PaulJosephWatson:5/the-truth-about-'vaccine-passports':2

Crnogorac3
15 Apr 2021  #5928

more efficient then EU

Considering that the elites who run the EU couldn't care less how many people in Poland or in the region will die, for them the main concern is not about preserving people's lives but it is about maintaining their interests and profit.

google.com/amp/s/amp.ft.com/content/81fc28aa-04a9-4108-a69b-80dc93a9e985

Even Germans are running to Belgrade to get the vaccine.

Nino Raspudić - Croatian MP spits on the EU: "You should be ashamed, Serbia of Vučić is better than you."

youtu.be/yR8KdpL-GQo

(at 5:00) "Especially of concern is the worsening of relations between Brussels with Poland, Hungary and other countries from the east of the continent who still have a living memory of the Soviet totalitarianism and it's understandable that they don't want a new one - from Brussels. Inequality within the EU is becoming all the more obvious. From the banal example of Nutella to the privileges that Brussels offered to Britain during the negotiations with Cameron shortly before the referendum. Such conditions smaller member states could only dream about. Yet even this wasn't enough. The icing on the cake in the end was when Macron later on explicitly announced that in the future decisions in the EU will be made without the consent or approval by all member states."

amiga500
15 Apr 2021  #5929

Thankfully 9 out of 10 deaths are PiS voters. So, not completely downsided.

A vile post by a scumbag human being. Funny how 7/10 of my elderly relatives in Poland support PO and hate PiS. But not suprising from a low Iq yank who believes in let the virus rip and trickle down economics, but delusionally thinks is in the center.

johnny reb
15 Apr 2021  #5930

for them the main concern is not about preserving people's lives but it is about maintaining their interests and profit.

And by by taking away their livelihood and freedoms to control them.

PolAmKrakow
15 Apr 2021  #5931

@amiga500
LMAO wishing I could put laughing faces here. Definitely need emogies here or however you spell it. You are a moron. You have no idea what my economic policy would be, definitely not trickle down. Business owners, generally don't practice trickle down.

Yes, let the virus rip. Let is go. Not going to be any worse than it already is, except we will get to recovery time quicker. But yes, if it takes out a few more PiS supporters it won't bother me, and maybe then people in this country will see PiS continues to drop the ball on just about everything here. You know, like the massive amounts of vaccine being wasted because they can't manage the vaccination program properly. But you would know that if you lived here and watched the news nightly.

amiga500
15 Apr 2021  #5932

@PolAmKrakow
You claim to be non ideological but your doing the same thing as those liberal elite in the USA celebrating the death of 'covid denying trumpian hicks'. Despicable.

Business owners, generally don't practice trickle down.

Trickle down is a macro economic policy/theory you dolt.

PolAmKrakow
15 Apr 2021  #5933

@amiga500

I am a business owner. You mentioned trickle down economics. I don't practice it, or support it in large corporations.

I am not celebrating anyone's death. I know three that have died from it. I am a realist who doesn't believe stopping the world so that less than three tenths of one percent of people will die from a virus. While 99.97 percent will not die, will not be hospitalized. Those 99.97 percent who pay the vast majority of taxes. The same group who own the most business, and create the most jobs.

You know the huge and overwhelming majority of people who are going broke because donkeys in power cant make reasonable policy. The vast majority of Poles who suffer under these idiotic rules and rulers. The same rulers who allow for clergy to tell people to not get vaccinated. The same Ministry, and Minister of Health who wont answer if he will be vaccinated because his priest told him its not a good idea.

Since you brought Trump up though, I laugh at the dumbest president of any country in history. I laugh at those who support his policies that were proven not to work. I laugh at everyone who believed his lies. Just like I laugh at any extremist. You know, kind of how you make me laugh.

mafketis
15 Apr 2021  #5934

Numbers from oday....

percent of positive test results: 23.18 % (of 91,150 tests - still well below the peak ten or so days ago)

hospital admissions: -653 (second day in a row of minus figures)

deaths: 682 (still high)

from the previous day*: 7 day moving average of daily deaths: 603 (up 22 from yesterday) again, this will be the last significant parameter to fall...

*the source I use is a day behind and I'm too lazy to calculate on my own

Lenka
15 Apr 2021  #5935

Nice to see the numbers back. My biggest problem now is the uncertainty of international travel :(

PolAmKrakow
15 Apr 2021  #5936

@Lenka
I wouldn't worry about it. Looks like they are increasing the number of flights a little now. Just booked another trip to USA in June and plenty of options.

Braveheart16
15 Apr 2021  #5937

Mafketis- .....admissions: -653 (second day in a row of minus figures)....

This is good news, but what is the policy at the moment....are people being graded in terms of their personal condition due to the shortage of hospital beds...is there some form of selection.....and if so who is responsible for selection....

chrisshrew
15 Apr 2021  #5938

Up to around 20% of adults now then. Shouldn't take too long before the stats get low enough to open up again for what should and has to be the final time. Wonder if it will be a more gradual approach such as in the UK or more rapid.

kondzior
15 Apr 2021  #5939

I'm 100% on-board with old and frail people getting vaxxed. Stick that needle in and go nuts. Even if it's the sterilising poison of conspiracy fame, it doesn't matter to them since they're old anyway and they don't want to go to hospital with the coof. But don't bother young people with some bullshit.

Maybe in the next 9 months, once enough boomers have been vaccinated, globohomo governments will simply call it a day. They'll just rip up all the social distancing markers and destroy the massive test-and-trace capacity they've created. Executive governments will simply return their powers to parliaments, which will all consist of honest politicians who will represent their constituents properly. A liberation day will be held. People will be dancing in the streets, burning face masks and the whole period will be like a combination of V-E Day and the Summer of Love. "Cases" will circulate, but governments will say that we need to live with this just like with the flu, and in any case we can't afford to maintain this test/trace/isolate capacity forever.

Of course we all know this scenario is extremely unlikely. But suppose it's true. Suppose our governments have nothing but love and good will towards us, and are working round-the-clock to get us back to the old normal ASAP, even though 100% of their behaviour so far is indicating the complete opposite. What do you then actually lose if you don't immediately cave in to the pressure to get a vaccine you don't need? A few more months in the transitional period where you'll need some mild social distancing in general, and get tested if you want to fly on holiday? Otherwise what's the actual loss proposition if you're young and healthy and you don't take the vaccine under intense social pressure?

In the far more likely scenario that:

1) Vaccines have serious problems not all of which have yet been discovered.
2) Governments will not just "give back freedom" even if 70% of people get vaccinated, which is going to happen anyway in most Western countries looking at the uptake so far.

Then you were smart, you didn't get rushed into doing something that gave you little to no clear benefit, and unlike the people who complied and got fooled, you can at least walk around with your head held high, prepared for whatever else comes next. Whereas those who keep complying for nothing will sink deeper and deeper in the morass.

johnny reb
15 Apr 2021  #5940

Pfizer CEO Albert Bourla said people will "likely" need a booster dose of a Covid-19 vaccine within 12 months of getting fully vaccinated.
His comments were made public Thursday but were taped April 1.
The elites are getting very rich off these vaccines.
It's gonna be very interesting to see what the after effects of these DNA altering vaccines are going to have in a couple of years from now.

Living in the wilderness of Alaska on a good trout stream that glitters with gold is looking better every day.


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