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Coronavirus in Poland



mafketis
23 Jun 2021  #6661

people who can only rant about off-topic issues or be offensive.... hate that someone else doesn't have their limitations....

mafketis
24 Jun 2021  #6662

uimhreacha ar gyfer dydd Iau (numbers for thursday)

percent of positive test results: 0.31 % of 48,13 tests

hospital admissions: -88 to 1219 (3rd day of negative numbers)

deaths: 24 (22 fewer than last dydd Iau!)

from the previous day*: 7 day moving average of daily deaths: 29 (down 4 the last time the rate was so low was early October 2020....)

*the source I use is a day behind and I'm too lazy to calculate on my own


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Lenka
24 Jun 2021  #6663

@lol I like it.

On a serious note- with such a low percentage of positive results it's almost as they have to go looking for it really hard...

Atch
24 Jun 2021  #6664

uimhreacha ar gyfer dydd Iau

A mixture of Irish and Welsh in the same sentence?

@lol I like it.

And here's a little tribute to our number cruncher on the same theme.

'Everybody's asking me who's that bunch of personality?
I'm presenting you right now
Daddy, take a bow!'

youtube.com/watch?v=cFJWmqMzvJU

mafketis
24 Jun 2021  #6665

with such a low percentage of positive results it's almost as they have to go looking for it really hard...

That is exactly the idea..... the super scary "Delta variant" (which has caused no change to hospitalization rates or mortality in the UK) seems to be a bust so far so it'll be interesting to see how they try to continue restrictions on movement....

Irish and Welsh in the same sentence?

Pan-Celtic Solidarity! Don't the Irish and Welsh love each other? (I have no idea so that's a kind of sincere question).

Atch
24 Jun 2021  #6666

Don't the Irish and Welsh love each other?

It's a weird thing but the 'Celtic' nations don't really think about each other much - except when we play each other at rugby :))

super scary "Delta variant"

Probably only 'super scary' because they're not sure whether the vaccine will work on it. At this stage Corona is here to stay in its various forms and mutations and the Corona vaccine industry is here to stay too, as they keep coming up with new ones.

mafketis
24 Jun 2021  #6667

only 'super scary' because they're not sure whether the vaccine will work on it

One theory is that it doesn't exist at all, it's really a case of mistaken identity and that it's really hay fever which is why those who don't get it don't get hospitalized or die...

I dunno...

Novichok
24 Jun 2021  #6668

That's all you need to know...

worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/poland/

A couple of graphs = days of boring reading.

don't get hospitalized or die...

You don't care how many are hospitalized or died as long as it is not you. That information has zero value since we can't act on it. It is what it is.

Nobody ever said, oh, they have more beds. Time to get sick.

Lenka
24 Jun 2021  #6669

days of boring reading.

Then don't read and leave the rest of us that do in peace for Pete's sake. You are like an uninvited guest who ruins the party for the rest.

Probably only 'super scary' because they're not sure whether the vaccine will work on it.

Maybe but any new strain will carry a risk. We can't live like this forever. At least I hope...

Novichok
24 Jun 2021  #6670

You are like an uninvited guest who ruins the party for the rest.

I just offered a better source and that is your problem? Can you repeat what he posted yesterday and what those numbers mean? You can't but a couple of graphs at...

worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/poland/

...tell you everything in less than three seconds because somebody smarter than maf is doing it every single day. Think this way: the world compiles such data with or without maf. From that website, I know more about Poland's corona than 99% of Poles.

mafketis
24 Jun 2021  #6671

I know more about Poland's corona than 99% of Poles

Great! Let's talk about it!!!!!!!

What about the government's claims concerning active case numbers? How do you think that's compiled?

What about hospitalization numbers, what do you think of them?

What about mask compliance on the street? On public transport? In stores?

Novichok
25 Jun 2021  #6672

None of that means squat to anyone. Answer this: How does knowing the rate of mask compliance affect anyone? Say, it's 30%. Now what? How about 45%. Who gives a damn? Are you going to stay home if it's 30 and go for a walk if it's 45?

Same with the hospitalization rates. Nobody ever said, oh, they have more beds. Time to get sick. Right?

Information has value only if it leads to different decisions. If no decision can be made, it's noise and its value is actually less than zero because noise displaces real information.

Novichok
25 Jun 2021  #6673

Quoting from dailymail.com:

There's a new COVID and only 99.89% of us are going to be left!

Atch
25 Jun 2021  #6674

None of that means squat to anyone.

In other words, you can't answer Maf's question - which isn't surprising since you don't live in Poland.

the hospitalization rates.

The hospitalization rates demonstrate what percentage of infected people are seriously ill and that is extremely relevant to all of us in terms of determining how we lead our lives during this period. Does it really matter if we go to a crowded place and catch the virus? Probably not, in most cases. Most of us won't become seriously ill and we certainly won't die. The main issue for most individuals at this stage is not a health issue but a moral dilemma - whether by spreading the virus through indiscriminate contact, we may be responsible for infecting a vulnerable person. That's up to each person to decide for themselves. You can't legislate for that because people will always find ways and means to circumvent legislation. The only things governments can do is try to ensure that hospitals continue to run as normally as possible for the general public and for those who are ill with other serious conditions.

mafketis
25 Jun 2021  #6675

Now the highlight of everybody's day (at least those who can count) !!!!! The numbers!!!!!

percent of positive test results: 0.31 % of 42,518 tests

hospital admissions: -62 to 1157 (4th day of negative numbers)

deaths: 36 (12 fewer than last Freitag!)

from the previous day*: 7 day moving average of daily deaths: 26 (down 3)

*the source I use is a day behind and I'm too lazy to calculate on my own

Now...


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Atch
25 Jun 2021  #6676

The numbers!!!!!

It's like waiting for the judging in the Eurovision !!!!!

percent of positive test results: 0.31 % of 42,518 tests

Interesting - exactly the same percentage as yesterday's figures.

mafketis
25 Jun 2021  #6677

the new normal percentage seems to be about 0.30 per cent of tests... if delta hysteria reaches Poland that the number of cases will probably increase but not mortality or hospitalization....

the big mystery is why the Polish government insists there are 153,000 active cases - there's no way to make the numbers fit based on hospitalization and positive test results...

Even if you count all quarantine cases as active... the numbers don't come close to adding up....

What is happening?

Novichok
25 Jun 2021  #6678

The hospitalization rates demonstrate...

Name one decision you made based on the hospitalization rates. You, personally, looked at the numbers and decided to do X instead of Y.
The same based on mask compliance rates.

mafketis
25 Jun 2021  #6679

Name one decision you made based on the hospitalization rates

This might be hard to believe, but some people think about more than their own skins... Some people are interested in the broader implications of facts and figures and can actually think about other people....

I know that's a lot for you to take in, but.... try.

Novichok
25 Jun 2021  #6680

This might be hard to believe, but some people think about more than their own skins...

And this sentence has to do with

Name one decision you made based on the hospitalization rates.

exactly what?

mafketis
25 Jun 2021  #6681

exactly what?

Well I thought that if I consistently post hospitalization rates then it would drive you batty with rage because it wasn't about you.

So.... there's that.

And this sentence has to do with

Where did I lose you? ...... "other people"....???? Is that it? You are not the only person on the planet and other people have opinions that are very different from yours and that doesn't make them stupid or horrible or things or evil spirits or whatever you think they are.

Just keep repeating to yourself "other people exist" until you understand.

Or to put in Richowski Język - I don't post hospitalization rates for you, I post them for myself because I like having a record. If other people enjoy them then I'm glad. If you're not interested or don't like it - then I don't care. I will not respond to any more posts from you that aren't about the covid situation in Poland.

Novichok
25 Jun 2021  #6682

And the above post has to do with

Name one decision you made based on the hospitalization rates

exactly what?

because I like having a record.

BS. That record exists elsewhere. You don't have any use for it or you would have already mentioned it. Or anyone else here.
Useless data = garbage.

Lenka
25 Jun 2021  #6683

Oh just **** off Rich, seriously! If the numbers are boring you are 10 times worse

Novichok
25 Jun 2021  #6684

Oh just **** off Rich, seriously!

I would have done it already if you answered my question that was clear and simple, but oh so inconvenient because it hurt feeeeelings. Even the author doesn't know why the data he posts is useful. Instead, he immediately got personal and nasty.

Mask requirements are useful as it helps me in avoiding places that require masks. Mask compliance has zero utility value because it is general, not location-specific.

Lenka
25 Jun 2021  #6685

oh so inconvenient because it hurt feeeeelings

No, because you are an annoying grump that doesn't seem to understand that others may enjoy things he doesn't. Usually people learn that around 5 but it seems you missed the lesson. See? No worries about hurt feelings.

Novichok
25 Jun 2021  #6686

because you are an annoying grump

...because I asked how is the data posted by the forum statistician useful? So, from now on, anyone who asks such a question is an annoying grump, right?

Circling wagons in progress...

It's interesting that you and others didn't comment on my posts. Instead, you got personal because you had nothing better to say.

Back to covid...The value from seeing the graphs in worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/poland/ is intangible as it shows that the end is near. It makes us feel better instantly and for the rest of the day. As good as it feels, though, it's still not good enough for planning trips, for example, since there is no guarantee that the restrictive rules will not be re-imposed while we are away. Hence, even the current rules are worthless from that point of view.

Hospitalization rates? Give me a break...

Lenka
25 Jun 2021  #6687

Omg, you are boring

1- it doesn't have to be useful as long as people want to read it. Put it down as entertainment if you wish
2- the data shows us how the country is doing pandemic wise. Do the numbers look as scary as the media would like us to believe? Is the healthcare strained to the point of bursting etc. It gives you a broader look. You, the self proclaimed lover of statistic should appreciate that.

The value from seeing the graphs in

And you see here Maf has an advantage on you- I don't have to go anywhere else. He posts it here so I don't have to go into trouble of visiting other sites.

mafketis
25 Jun 2021  #6688

you and others didn't comment on my posts

Cause your posts are useless since you're unable to post about anything but yourself.

Novichok
25 Jun 2021  #6689

Compare his data with what's here:

worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/poland/

and you will see how ridiculous your post is. Only an obtuse person would argue that a series of numerical posts that are spread over months is better than graphs.

Cause your posts are useless since you're unable to post about anything but yourself.

Bull. Show me one post of mine in this thread where I wrote about me.

mafketis
26 Jun 2021  #6690

I'm back! And better than ever! So here are Saturday numbers!

percent of positive test results: 0.23 % of 43,297 tests

hospital admissions: -75 to 1082 (5th day of negative numbers)

deaths: 21 (20 fewer than last Saturday!)

from the previous day*: 7 day moving average of daily deaths: 25 (down 1)

*the source I use is a day behind and I'm too lazy to calculate on my own

Enjoy!


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