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Novichok
5 Jul 2021  #6751

From:

medicalxpress.com/news/2021-07-israel-preliminary-delta-variant-bypass.html

Israel data 'preliminary signal' Delta variant can bypass vaccine: expert

Good. Now that we know we will all die, we can drop the bs and resume living.

Tacitus
5 Jul 2021  #6752

I guess wearing will stay mandatory then.

Lenka
5 Jul 2021  #6753

It seems in 2 weeks time I will be shopping without a mask :)

Vincent
5 Jul 2021  #6754

It seems in 2 weeks time I will be shopping without a mask :)

I would expect many shops in the UK will insist customers still wear them, at least for a few weeks.

Miloslaw
5 Jul 2021  #6755

I would expect many shops in the UK will insist customers still wear them

I am not so sure.
I have already seen a huge relaxation.
My wife had to go for a regular test at the hospital last week and the nurse treating her was not wearing a mask.
I think people have had enougjh.

mafketis
6 Jul 2021  #6756

Terry Tuesday numbers....

percent of positive test results: 0.19% of 49,463 tests

hospitalization: -20 to 546 (14th day of negative numbers )

deaths: 10 (six fewer than last Tuesday)

from the previous day*: 7 day moving average of daily deaths: 15, no change from yesterday...

And somehow the official number of 'active cases' is still over 153,000 ... which makes less than zero sense.... how on earth is that number calculated?

What is 'zakażeni aktualnie' supposed to even mean? cause it can't be 'currently infected'....

*the source I use is a day behind and I'm too lazy to calculate on my own

Alien
6 Jul 2021  #6757

153000 long corona cases?

Tacitus
6 Jul 2021  #6758

That is a possibility. It looks like 5% (some say 3%, others 10%) of all Covid patients suffer from long covid, which would be roughly 150k cases in Poland.

mafketis
6 Jul 2021  #6759

Covid patients suffer from long covid

Not sure if that's a thing... in one study a large majority of those claiming 'long covid' had no evidence that they'd ever had 'short covid' (had never had a positive test and had no antibodies).....

I think it's a diffuse, non-specific disorder of the kind that is very appealing to some people.

Novichok
6 Jul 2021  #6760

How come that delta thingy does not leave piles of corpses in its wake, only "cases"?

mafketis
7 Jul 2021  #6761

Willie Wednesday numbers....

percent of positive test results: 0.24% of 42,891 tests

hospitalization: -42 to 504 (15th day of negative numbers )

deaths: 17 (one more than last Wednesday)

from the previous day*: 7 day moving average of daily deaths: 13, down 2 from yesterday

And somehow the official number of 'active cases' is still over 153,000 ... which makes less than zero sense.... how on earth is that number calculated?

What is 'zakażeni aktualnie' supposed to even mean? cause it can't be 'currently infected'....

*the source I use is a day behind and I'm too lazy to calculate on my own

Tacitus
7 Jul 2021  #6762

How come that delta thingy does not leave piles of corpses in its wake, only "cases"?

Because the vaccination seems to be still effective in preventing serious cases.

Novichok
7 Jul 2021  #6763

And that is why we are bombarded with unserious "cases" every day on the evening news. "Highly contagious" is all I hear but never how many died.

BTW, the way we treat the unvaccinated is another Western idiocy. It goes like this: The refuseniks refuse to get vaccinated. We, the vaccinated, therefore, are obligated to adjust - masks and distance - because the refuseniks are morons.

In other words, according to the Western ways of showing compassion, I am supposed to care about the idiots more than the idiots themselves.

mafketis
7 Jul 2021  #6764

Very revealing graphs from the Guardian on the current 'wave'....

twitter.com/markdavyd/status/1410803538901573633/photo/1

Novichok
7 Jul 2021  #6765

Let me guess...The newsreaders mention only the "cases". Cases, cases, cases...
And percent increases...If it goes from 1 to 2, it's not an increase by 1. Oh, no. It's 100% up!!!!!! Oh my God, the end is near!!!!

PolAmKrakow
7 Jul 2021  #6766

@Novichok
Exactly, numbers don't lie, only the people expressing those numbers. Let the bodies hit the floor of the unvaccinated. "God" can manage them all.

Novichok
7 Jul 2021  #6767

I like ...and let God sort them out... better.

Or, fu*ck 'em! That's as far as I go feeling compassion.

PolAmKrakow
7 Jul 2021  #6768

@Novichok
I chose manage since there are sensitive feelings here with some. About time for everyone to say the hell with it and the 4th wave can take everyone who didnt get the jab. A few pedophile Polish priests would be great examples in my opinion.

Novichok
7 Jul 2021  #6769

and the 4th wave can take everyone who didn't get the jab.

...which should be perfectly OK with the abortion-loving leftists.

mafketis
8 Jul 2021  #6770

Thaddie Thursday numbers....

percent of positive test results: 0.23% of 39, 928 tests

hospitalization: -28 to 476 (16th day of negative numbers and another psychologically important number falls... )

deaths: 19 (4 fewer than last Thursday and all but 3 with comorbidities...)

from the previous day*: 7 day moving average of daily deaths: 13, no change from yesterday

And somehow the official number of 'active cases' is still over 153,000 ... which makes less than zero sense.... how on earth is that number calculated?

What is 'zakażeni aktualnie' supposed to even mean? cause it can't be 'currently infected'....

*the source I use is a day behind and I'm too lazy to calculate on my own

Novichok
8 Jul 2021  #6771

Today, I went to renew my license. Not a single employee there wore a mask. Half of the customers did.

That is not really a problem. The problem is that the mask-holes are allowed to vote in November.

Tacitus
8 Jul 2021  #6772

Yeah those maskholes are enfuriating. They can't be bothered with the slightest inconvenience for keeping themselves and others safe.

I get it, if you are a sociopath you might not care about others, but I wonder how Christians can live with spreading death to others for basically no reason?

johnny reb
9 Jul 2021  #6773

You will find that the maskholes are very self centered and refuse to wear a mask to make their dim statement.
I first coined the word "maskhole" in this thread so that makes ME the authority on who a maskhole is.
A maskhole is a self centered person who refuses to wear a mask.

Spike31
9 Jul 2021  #6774

Dust maskers can be divided into 3 major categories:

> Old people truly scared of dying thanks to cynical mass media propaganda. Many of them deprived of contact with their families because "don't hug your grandma or she's going to die". Many of them died in day centers due to negligence at the early stage of the "pandemic".

> Young and middle-aged self-righteous idiots. Like those typical Karen's with 2-meter sticks and other "stay home save lives" couch potatoes. Those merciful creatures will wish you die when they see you walking without a dust mask on.

>Middle-aged people who just can't be bothered and wear it for social convenience. But that's how the whole social engineering works: to beat people into submission. To push them into a cage of "new normality".

mafketis
9 Jul 2021  #6775

Freian Friday numbers

percent of positive test results: 0.19% of 40,731 tests

hospitalization: -13 to 463 (17th day of negative numbers)

deaths: 17 (4 fewer than last Friday and all but 3 with comorbidities...)

from the previous day*: 7 day moving average of daily deaths: 13, no change from yesterday

And somehow the official number of 'active cases' is still over 153,000 ... which makes less than zero sense.... how on earth is that number calculated?

What is 'zakażeni aktualnie' supposed to even mean? cause it can't be 'currently infected'....

*the source I use is a day behind and I'm too lazy to calculate on my own

mafketis
9 Jul 2021  #6776

Interesting puzzle.... why are so many English speaking countries leading the world in dysfunctional destructive covid policies?

Canada and Australia are stuck in eternal lockdown mode, but New Zealand leads the pathetic pack and the country is seeing a massive crisis in children's health - not from covid which is not dangerous to them at all - but from covid policies which have compromised their immune systems (no exposure to the usual bacterial and viral infections of childhood leaves them more vulnerable)

theguardian.com/world/2021/jul/08/new-zealand-children-falling-ill-in-high-numbers-due-to-covid-immunity-debt

Here's a scathing criticism of Irish policies (the New Zealand of Europe?)

spiked-online.com/2021/07/08/spare-a-thought-for-locked-down-ireland/

Two possibilities - since most covid policies aren't about health but about a change to economic and governments systems (best name so far is 'technical feudalism') English speaking countries are simply ahead of everyone else.

There's also the trade off between uncertainty and risk - English speaking countries, for the most part, don't mind uncertainty but hate risk (Poland is the opposite - uncertain and novel situations make people nervous but they can deal with calculated risks).

So.... whazzup?

chrisshrew
9 Jul 2021  #6777

And percent increases...If it goes from 1 to 2, it's not an increase by 1. Oh, no. It's 100% up!!!!!!

That's the trouble, stats can be easily manipulated. While an increase in the numbers is something to be careful about, if it's from a very low level it has to be taken in context. At the end of the day, most western countries have around half their populations vaccinated with at least one now. Poland admittedly just under half but by the end of the summer would surely be higher. Got to draw a line in the sand at some point over this.

johnny reb
9 Jul 2021  #6778

No indication that we will need a booster shot this fall for Covid yet Pfizer is already asking for emergency authorization to distribute their new experimental booster shots. $$$$$$

Novichok
10 Jul 2021  #6779

They can't be bothered with the slightest inconvenience for keeping themselves and others safe.

My safety is my problem. I can choose to kill myself a dozen different ways. Your safety is your problem. Your basement is your safety. Stay there.

Masks can't stop smoke but can stop the virus, right? Maybe in Germany where the viruses are bigger and better. Here, these suckers are tiny and a cloth mask can't stop them.

The only reason masks are "the slightest inconvenience" (that's a lie) is that they don't work and the air we breathe in and out goes around them. But they make maskholes feel good and serve a higher purpose. Now I know their IQ and how they vote without asking.

mafketis
10 Jul 2021  #6780

Saturnian Saturday numbers

percent of positive test results: 0.19% of 45,531 tests

hospitalization: -13 to 450 (18th day of negative numbers)

deaths: 7 (11 fewer than last Saturday and only 3 without comorbidities...)

from the previous day*: 7 day moving average of daily deaths: 13, no change from yesterday

And somehow the official number of 'active cases' is still over 153,000 ... which makes less than zero sense.... how on earth is that number calculated?

What is 'zakażeni aktualnie' supposed to even mean? cause it can't be 'currently infected'....

*the source I use is a day behind and I'm too lazy to calculate on my own


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