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Coronavirus in Poland



johnny reb
24 Jul 2021  #6901

Of the 700 physicians responding to an internet survey on Covid Vaccinations by the Association of American Physicians and Surgeons (AAPS), nearly 60 percent said they were not "fully vaccinated" against COVID.

(No such stats available for Polish doctors.)
This contrasts with the claim by the American Medical Association that 96 percent of practicing physicians are fully vaccinated.
This was based on 300 respondents.
Neither survey represents a random sample of all American physicians, but the AAPS survey shows that physician support for the mass injection campaign is far from unanimous.

The U.S. Physicians survey showed 59% unvaccinated and 41% vaccinated.
Also 54% of the physicians were aware of patients suffering from adverse reactions from the vaccine while 46% said they were not.
Why are 6 out of 10 physicians refusing to get vaccinated ?
Do they know something we don't ?
Will they be losing THEIR JOBS for refusing to get poked ?

Lenka
24 Jul 2021  #6902

Hey, anyone knows how long one waits for test and result and how much the tests are in Krakòw/Katowice?

johnny reb
24 Jul 2021  #6903

Oye Lenka,

A PCR test in Poland is about 150 zloty, results in 15 minutes available everywhere, .

Nasal swab available everywhere, results in 24 to 48 hours cost about 450 zloty. Easy to find and get done.


Novichok
25 Jul 2021  #6904

Look at this and you will know what real pride is...No, you don't have to be gay to feel it. Quoting from:

dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9820691/Australian-anti-lockdown-protestors-clash-police-amid-new-restrictions-just-176-new-cases.html

Australian anti-lockdown protestors violently clash with police and yell anti-vaxxer slogans in rallies across the country in response to harsh new restrictions after just 176 new daily infections

The best part of this great report are the posters. Like this:

The virus is here to stay. Lockdowns are not sustainable.

I am not a bio-hazard.

Freedom is never voluntarily given by the oppressor. It must be demanded by the oppressed.

Our kids are not your guinea pigs.

No false tests. No false cases. No lockdown.


I couldn't be more proud of the Australians and I am beginning to like the anarchists and the BLM for their guts, if for nothing else.

mafketis
25 Jul 2021  #6905

Sunday Morning Coming Down

percent of positive test results: 0.25% of 32,296 tests

hospitalization: -21 to 304 (lower than before the March 2020 lockdown....)

deaths: 1 (with comorbidities)

from the previous day*: 7 day moving average of daily deaths: 4 no change, lowest number since March 31, 2020...

And yet the government claims that the number of currently infected has _risen_ to 153, 625 !!!! Clear falsehood, why is the government lying in this way? Why are no journalists asking about this?

Generally things seem to have bottomed out, so the previously announced fourth wave should begin soon.... it's been announced and they're already talking about it like a real thing on tv....

*the source I use is a day behind and I'm too lazy to calculate on my own

mafketis
26 Jul 2021  #6906

(Just Another) Manic Monday

percent of positive test results: 0.31% of 23,529 tests

hospitalization: +1 to 305 (bottoming out so there won't be long strings of negative or positive days)

deaths: 0

from the previous day*: 7 day moving average of daily deaths: 4 no change, lowest number since March 31, 2020...

And yet the government claims that the number of currently infected is over 153, 600 !!!! Clear falsehood, why is the government lying in this way? Why are no journalists asking about this?

Slight increase in positive results (random or the beginnings of the long promised 'fourth wave'? the government clearly wants another wave - how else can they feel important?

*the source I use is a day behind and I'm too lazy to calculate on my own

Atch
26 Jul 2021  #6907

the beginnings of the long promised 'fourth wave'?

A few places in the world seem to be experiencing that, so I suppose it'll happen here too. Sort of inevitable really.

chrisshrew
26 Jul 2021  #6908

I guess the main issue will be how big this wave will be. If it gets anywhere remotely near the previous one it will completely undermine the vaccinations. Be interesting to see how the authorities react to it considering the different circumstances. Think its inevitable that there will be considerable resistance to any attempt to reimpose tighter restrictions, even by those who supported them in the past because of the lack of a vaccine.

jon357
26 Jul 2021  #6909

there will be considerable resistance

That sounds about right.

the main issue will be how big this wave will be

It''s looking inevitable now.

Where I am, most masks are off. At one of the country's biggest railway stations yesterday, there were big crowds and maybe 10% wearing masks.

mafketis
26 Jul 2021  #6910

so I suppose it'll happen here too

What's funny is that it was more.... announced rather than speculated upon.

If it's like other places the Delta wave will have lots of new 'cases' (positive tests with mild or no symptoms) but only modest increases in hospitalizations and deaths (see the UK and Israel). It's great that the delta wave peaked and began falling after freedom day - while the usual suspects were forecasting doom and gloom and 100,000 cases a day.

I would say that most Polish people have been over covid since around Easter of last year. Even during the larger waves in the fall (seasonal) and spring (the vaccination wave) there wasn't the palpable unease and paranoia of March 2020....

Where I am hardly anyone wears masks outside and more are also foregoing them in transport (5-10 %) and inside (I forget to put one on recently going into a Żabka and the clerk said nothing - I only remembered on my way out).

Novichok
26 Jul 2021  #6911

At this very moment, I am in the waiting area of a Chicago hospital. No mask. No problems. To be sure, there is an empty coffee cup next to me. It's amazing how that piece of paper gives one viral immunity in both directions.

Korvinus
26 Jul 2021  #6912

Most COVID deaths in England now are in the vaccinated - here's why that shouldn't alarm you:

theconversation.com/most-covid-deaths-in-england-now-are-in-the-vaccinated-heres-why-that-shouldnt-alarm-you-163671

The article is full of bad stats, and metaphors. It really shows how **** weak the vaccine argument has become. It's funny how they don't rely on "science," anymore as the "science," now has no leg to stand upon. Only 64% of all people that died of the DELTA variant were vaxxed, that means it's working but we need booster shots against the variant that existed before our vaxx. So, they say that infection rate is the same? Wasn't them claiming that vaccine decrease infection chance?

And now the mRna "vaccines" have messed up the lemmngs immune system, they will have to keep being jabbed.
Wouldn't it be far simpler to gain natural immunity to what is for most a mild or not even noticed cough and treat the sick with off patent drugs that help?

But they won't allow that, they want to keep jabbing kids with cats **** poison that makes them dependent on "vaccine boosters."
And by they I mean governments, media, The church of Science corporation and their brianwashed rabid double jabbed worshipers and all the rest of the scum selling experimental snake oil.

Spike31
26 Jul 2021  #6913

Sure it's working. Take another dose, don't kiss your grandma, and wear a dust mask and you'll be immortal. As simple as that. It's all scientifically proven.

Those who dare to question the method are flat-earthers and those who provide arguments to debunk it are conspiracy theorists. Thank you for your cooperation.

Novichok
26 Jul 2021  #6914

For the first time ever, the word "science" was stripped of all meaning. Naively, we think of science as numbers, tests, peer reviews, debates, Q&A seminars, sources, etc.

You insist on any of this, and your career is over if you happen to be a journalist. Just as with global warming where a 16-year-old ugly girl from Sweden is an instant, never to be questioned authority.

Spike31
27 Jul 2021  #6915

Here's one example of a scientific mind:

mobile.twitter.com/aliceperryuk/status/1417042780992462850

I don't often call people idiots, but when I do I mean it :-)

Vincent
27 Jul 2021  #6916

@ Spike31

Public transport companies in the UK still insist you wear a mask when you enter their trains and buses. Whether you're first or last on board makes no difference, you have to abide by their rules and keep your mask on for the duration of the journey.

Spike31
27 Jul 2021  #6917

Well, they can insist and I can insist on not wearing them.

Not that I would like to travel underground in a narrow smelly tube car made for dwarfs and I usually don't use public transport.

More like an exercise of personal freedoms. All these absurd rules need to be confronted at every given opportunity for 2 major reasons:

#1 to set a positive example for the others

#2 to make life more difficult to those who are trying to impose them on us

All restrictions were lifted by the government and some funny little man posing for Mayor of London can suck my...

Cargo pants
27 Jul 2021  #6918

you have to abide by their rules and keep your mask on

they can insist and I can insist on not wearing them.

Expect a fine or refused for there services.Now its all good arguing on a forum about it but in real life it has consequences.

Spike31
27 Jul 2021  #6919

I've been arguing about it in restaurants, shops, in my bank...you name it.

Since the beginning of the "pandemic", I didn't wear a dust mask even once. I put my money where my mouth is.

And if you have to go to court over it, I will. I've got time and money to do so. It wouldn't be the first time fighting for my rights in court. My friend is a solicitor, and anti-totalitarian like me, and we would gladly take the case even pro publico bono.

Cargo pants
27 Jul 2021  #6920

I just argued about the mask in a gym,but they finally called the cops and i gave in,cuz I really wanted to use the facilities and even the cops told me to leave and if I wanted file a civil case,I checked with my lawyer too and he told me its not worth the hassle(Not enough money) so I just gave in.I will never sue if there is no money involved.I just go with the flow.

Joker
27 Jul 2021  #6921

I just argued about the mask in a gym,but they finally called the cops

How could someone call the cops over a mask? It had to be a libtard Dem still living in fear! LOL

Conclusion: we will all die.

Infections are up after Biden has been spreading thousands of illegal migrants all across the country.

Democrats are the Superspreaders!

Cargo pants
27 Jul 2021  #6922

How could someone call the cops over a mask?

LOL you know you can call the cops if you cant sh*it in States:)and they will come lol.
They didnt let me in the gym when they opened up and when I insisted they called the cops,imagine running on a treadmill with a freaking mask on?fu*ckers also kept an eye that the mask was on your nose.LOL I am sure fu*cking Dems.

Spike31
27 Jul 2021  #6923

I just go with the flow.

Well, I guess that's what they are counting on.

Money is important but what really grinds my gears is when some cynical c*nts who milk us on taxes want to limit my freedom in one way or another to suit their agenda.

And that's why I'd give them as much headache as possible.

mafketis
27 Jul 2021  #6924

Tuesday Heartbreak

percent of positive test results: 0.25% of 42,491 tests (more tests and the rate is back lower...)

hospitalization: +4 to 309 (bottoming out so there won't be long strings of negative or positive days)

deaths: 7 (6 with comorbidities)

from the previous day*: seven day moving average of daily deaths: 4 no change, lowest number since March 31, 2020...

And yet the government claims that the number of currently infected is over 153, 600 !!!! Clear falsehood, why is the government lying in this way? Why are no journalists asking about this?

*the source I use is a day behind and I'm too lazy to calculate on my own

Korvinus
27 Jul 2021  #6925

Delta Variant: Natural Immunity 700% Better Than the Vaccine
articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2021/07/27/covid-19-delta-variant-natural-immunity.aspx?ui=790bd056e30eca42aa036a7b28990b63ee4e24846623359dd4037d34c87d5a00&sd=20110824&cid_source=dnl&cid_medium=email&cid_content=art2HL&cid=20210727&mid=DM939279&rid=1218763035

"Data presented to the Israeli Health Ministry July 17, 2021, revealed that, of the more than 7,700 COVID-19 cases reported since May 2021, only 72 occurred in people who had previously had COVID-19 - a rate of less than 1%

In contrast, more than 3,000 cases - or approximately 40% - occurred in people who had received a COVID-19 vaccine"


Why do we need to inject ourselves with this **** again?

Novichok
27 Jul 2021  #6926

Quoting stupid CDC...

Return of the masks: CDC will release new guidance TODAY recommending fully vaccinated Americans wear masks indoors if they live in COVID hot spots

and a brilliant reader:

I'll pass thanks. As long as the border is left wide open to illegals who are undocumented and unvaccinated I will not comply.

pawian
27 Jul 2021  #6927

Nobody mentioned it here yet? There was an ani-jab movement representatives` attack on a vaccination outlet in Grodzisk Mazowiecki. They tried to get inside and cause havoc, yet the security stopped them until the arrival of the police who arrested two attackers. Health Minister immediately awarded those heroic guards with medals.

jon357
27 Jul 2021  #6928

arrested

Good.

There's been a disturbing tendency among anti-vaxxers/covidiots to talk more and more about 'direct action', violence etc. In London at their big demo at the weekend, one of the most notorious loons (unfortunately one with a following) was talking about hanging doctors who vaccinate. The anti-vax/anti-science movement in Poland seems small but they still have their daft protests and now this.

Hopefully the court will deal with them appropriately.

pawian
27 Jul 2021  #6929

Hopefully the court will deal with them appropriately.

Unfortunately, not so fast. Those antivaxxers are PiS main voters so PiS prosecutors won`t dare to take them to court. PIS has a problem.

AntV
27 Jul 2021  #6930

@jon357

While violence and preventing someone who wants the vaccine from getting it should be denounced, do you think those wary of the covid vaccines are anti-science and idiots?

You find nothing about these vaccines that might raise some doubts and cautions?

Being trepidatious about injecting a substance with swapped rna coding sequences and modified nucleosides isn't idiotic or anti-scientific, is it?

It may end up being great, but how do we know that right now? Science doesn't always get it right


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