Coronavirus in Poland

Back in the USSR days, such journalists would disappear. Today, the journalists who are too inquisitive don't get invited.

Probably a combination of ignorance (not knowing what to look for and what to ask) and convenience - the media lurves itself some covid panic **** and isn't anxious to burst that balloon.... even media that's otherwise critical of the government just swallows its covid numbers....


Sort of true of the US (where journalism has been de-skilled) but not in Poland.

Yes, sensationalism is much easier than investigative journalism. Perfect for lazy journalists and lazy editors.

Bias media, lazy journalists ?
Its called, "The Swamp".
Why there was no wrongdoing in the FISA warrants, why the Durham report was delayed.
Why Hunter will walk scot free and diaper wearing bidan will give his whole family pardons.
Why the FBI sat on the laptop.
Why the bidens' connection to China was overlooked.
And then they unleashed the perfect weapon, a virus that could be weaponized politically to bring down the greatest economy ever and usher in unverifiable mail in voting.

Now put on your mask and hold your arm out.

US idea not really relevant in Poland (unless you're talking about state run media.....).

Never liked Darwin and the virus as much as now.

No but the virus is now ain't it.
Take your blinders off.

It looks like all of Europe is trying to implement this whole covid passport regime.... So apparently a negative test won't be good enough anymore...

Pretty soon people who aren't signing up for this experimental gene therapy (it's not a traditional vaccine) will be denied entry into bars, restaurants, clubs, museums, concerts - basically any social event...

And it doesn't even work LOL! Vaxxed people are still getting sick. Israel is still going through high rates of infection despite supposedly 80-90% being vaxxed. But yet they come out with more mandates, more shot schedules, more rules, more restrictions, more variants, more threats of closures and gradually taking away more and more freedoms treating people like guinea pigs telling them to take an ever increasing amount of untested, unproven experimental medicine.

To top it off they're clamping down harder than ever on people who are against this whole thing - censorship, labeling any such gathering illegal, etc. etc. The people who are fighting back, going to these event, and fighting against this. A few brave Frechmen even torched down a covid vaxx site.

What ever happened to freedom? Personal choice? My body, my rights? All of that has gone out the window with this covid...

The Great Reset is gradually being rolled out.

Meanwhile, Russia, Belarus, China, and tons of other countries are totally open. No "covid passports," basically all restrictions have been lifted... and they call these unfree countries? Idk about you, but I see a lot more freedoms in Russia than in western Europe.

Not in the UK. There, they're shouting their shtick from megaphones in Trafalgar Square with a giant screen behind them. Nor in Poland, where they're stomping through the streets of Warsaw with daft banners about 5G and sundry conspiracy theories.


Three fine beacons of liberty there.

You can go in a titty bar without a vaccine certificate but if you criticise the Dear Leader don't accept any gifts of perfume from them.

Don't make me laugh...When did you or anyone here criticize your leaders - publicly and with your name for all to see?
I have been taunting you weasels to do it forever and failed. All I got is lectures about "democracies". What Dirk just described are the seeds of 1984 plus Dr. Mengele.


China is already known to be more capitalistic than the US so your sarcasm is misplaced.

Yes, I could live without criticizing my leader if my leader did his damn job protecting the country. Ours don't.

Frequently in real life.

As do the 'anti-vax/covidiot' campaigners. Loudly, in public and covered in the media.


That doesn't actually make sense.

I wonder if he's pretending that capitalism somehow equates to freedom or if he's just trying to argue for the sake of it.

ROFL are you kidding me? UK is totally shilling the vaxx passports... it has yet to be implemented, yes, but I'm sure as with the rest of the western EU countries they'll end up voting for it and implementing it.

theguardian.com/world/2021/jul/20/no-10-refuses-to-rule-out-covid-passports-for-entry-into-pubs

No 10 has refused to rule out extending domestic vaccine passports to pubs or other sectors of the economy from September, saying it wanted to look at data on their effectiveness from around the world.

Boris Johnson said on Monday night that Covid vaccine passes would be needed to enter nightclubs and other large indoor venues when all adults had been offered the chance to be double jabbed.

news.sky.com/story/covid-19-minister-suggests-other-crowded-venues-where-vaccine-passports-could-be-introduced-12361320

Vaccines minister Nadhim Zahawi (a very British name by modern standards) says sporting and business events, music venues and festivals are the settings that ministers are "most concerned about" when it comes to the spread of COVID-19, in addition to nightclubs.


That's because there's nothing to criticize Putin, Lukashenko, Xi, etc. about especially Putin. Russians are fortunate have such a leader and that's why the majority of Russians approve of him. Even western media outlets agree that his approval sits 70-80%+. If only the US and Poland had leaders like Putin..

Capitalism equates to economic freedom. It's possible to have capitalism without "democracy" (labeled as "populism" when the wrong candidate wins).

It's also possible to have "democracy" without capitalism which is evident in some EU countries that became more and more socialist and only feeds off declining remains of capitalism and it's fruits.

Once there's more entitled free ride consumers than despised hard working producers the parasites, I mean socialists, will die out too. Even a flatworm is smarter than a socialist because it does kill it's own host.

You did, after all, falsely claim that: " they're clamping down harder than ever on people who are against this whole thing - censorship, labeling any such gathering illegal", several days after televised rallies in the capital...


All those international sanctions must be just a dream. As for lwvels of freedom in China, best not go there....

There is more to life than playing stupid we-shall-overcome occupy games. China has billionaires and millionaires just like the US. They can own property in Hawaii and in Monte Carlo. They can travel. What they cannot do is stage BLM riots and organize a fake opposition party the way we and you can. BFD!

Is he trying to equate that to freedom?


So no, they aren't free. Nor should they be held up as examples of that.

This should be filed under Darwin Was a Genius or Distrusting Is Not Allways Good. Quoting dailymail.com:
Couple dies of COVID after refusing to take vaccine because they distrusted government after 40-year Tuskegee Syphilis Experiment on black men
To their credit, Daily Mail did not capitalize "black".

I hate people who just won't die to make the covid mafia feel good. If you look at the US daily deaths graph...

worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/

...you will notice a total lack of cooperation on the part of ignorant Americans. Like they didn't read the memo about that "highly contagious" delta thing.

I mean, since the end of January, the daily death rates have been dropping and dropping. I hope this will change soon and the curve will more accurately reflect the horrific deadliness of that delta variant.

We all know that this curve is actually shooting through the roof so it must be the evil Russian hackers trying to lul us into a false sense of security.

Like a Summer Thursday

percent of positive test results: 0.45% of 37,501 tests (again fewer tests and the rate is higher...)

hospitalization: -6 to 302 (bottoming out so there won't be long strings of negative or positive days)

deaths: 5 (4 with comorbidities, it's been a while since more than one or two people died of just covid in a day)

from the previous day*: seven day moving average of daily deaths: up one to 5

And yet the government claims that the number of currently infected increased by 79 to reach 153,844 !!!!

If you check here worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/poland/ you see the number hasn't decreased since early June despite the positive test and hospitalization rates plummeting. Compare with other countries at that site where the active cases coincide with other variables more.

Clear falsehood, why is the government lying in this way? Why are no journalists asking about this?

*the source I use is a day behind and I'm too lazy to calculate on my own

Finally, put up or shut up...Quoting from dailymail.com:

Put up or we won't mask up: Pressure grows on CDC to release data that led to mask U-turn as cities and states say they WON'T change guidance without seeing the new evidence

OK, let's see that "science" that came from some bureaucrat's desk and took ten minutes to slap together.

More on the same subject...

When CDC Director Rochelle Walensky spoke to reporters Tuesday, she cited the "new scientific data" but provided limited details about how the research was done.

When you cite "data", you cite data, not your personal crap, Rochelle.

Australia is turning into a police state because yesterday the number of covid deaths was....drum roll....1.

Quoting comments from dailymail.com:

The CDC came out today & admitted that the covid test that Fauci called ''the gold standard" does NOT differentiate between covid & the common flu. So all this year & a half, they've been testing people, & those with the flu were labeled as infected with Covid!

Until the bullets start flying, the majority of people are not going to care that governments are taking their freedoms away, because of a stupid new strain of the flu, with a 98+ percent recovery rate!

That's why the flue disappeared. It was not scary enough for the sheep to surrender.

I wondered about that a while ago (on this very forum) and also wondered how the covid protocols applied to flu patients would work out....

On the other hand, from a societal standpoint covid is a lot better than the flu. Children can get (and die from) the flu while it is extremely, extremely rare for children to get and die from covid.

Friday I'm in Love

percent of positive test results: 0.41% of 37,028 tests (again fewer tests and the rate is higher...)

hospitalization: -7 to 295 (lowest number since March 10, 2020....bottoming out so there won't be long strings of negative or positive days)

deaths: 2 (both with comorbidities, it's been a while since more than one or two people died of just covid in a day)

from the previous day*: seven day moving average of daily deaths: down 2 to 3, lowest rate since March 31, 2020...

And yet the government claims that the number of currently infected increased by 72 to reach 153,919 !!!!

If you check here worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/poland/ you see the number hasn't decreased since early June despite the positive test and hospitalization rates plummeting. Compare with other countries at that site where the active cases coincide with other variables more.

Clear falsehood, why is the government lying in this way? Why are no journalists asking about this?

*the source I use is a day behind and I'm too lazy to calculate on my own

-Hospitals will be overwhelmed, so we need to flatten the curve for 2 weeks

-Hospitals are not overwhelmed, so now we need to lower the "R value", which is an indicator of how fast the disease spreads

-The R value actually looks very good, so let's just count deaths, it looks scary

-Not many deaths, so now we need to look at "cases"/incidences, ignoring the number of tests performed of course

-We need to be below 100 cases per 100k inhabitants of a randomly defined region; no it's 50; no 30; ****, we reached that number, so let's make it 10...

- Incidences are so stubbornly low goddammit, so now let's look at some new complicated number that involves models we can just make up

-Herd immunity doesn't help, forget it

- Except that it does help if immunity comes from the vaccine

-We need 50% vaccination rate, oh no 60, nah, 80

- Vaccination rate is actually pretty high, so herd immunity doesn't work anymore, because the unvaxxed are factories for new variants

-Ergo - lockdowns and masks are always necessary, no matter what happens in reality!

It's all "science".
Now I know why they pad rooms for the insane.

@Korvinus

Hmmm...kind of reads like a historical timeline.

SYDNEY (Reuters) -Sydney's poorest neighborhoods on Friday braced for military enforcement of the city's toughest and longest lockdown of the COVID-19 pandemic as the infection numbers held persistently high five weeks since restrictions began.

With the city of 5 million people ordered to stay home amid an outbreak of the highly transmissible Delta variant, authorities outlined even tighter restrictions for the worst affected suburbs, including mandatory testing and mask-wearing outdoors.

In other words, Australia declared war on its citizens and restrictions don't work.

I have never felt so good living in the US as I do now. That bullsh*it of being under house arrest just wouldn't go well here with the Americans and the American courts. They can close businesses and parks, but to deprive me of my freedom and to lock me up they had better have a court order. Just as with arrest and search warrants.

Saturday Serious


Massive protests across Europe in Spain, Italy, France, Greece and the UK are sending a clear message... millions of people will not just accept vaccine passports.

This is the new global protest movement.

There is no house arrest, people can go excercise and do shopping and go to essential work (which is wide). It's not a police state when the demos ie vast majority is for the restrictions.

@amiga500
Most people are sheep aimlessly following the rest of the heard who can not think for themselves. Not just down under, everywhere.

ANY restrictions are "house arrest". A free man can leave and stay outside any time for as long as he wants.

Quoting:

If you have been convicted for a minor charge and wish to continue working or attending school throughout your home detention period, you must provide the court with an accurate and detailed work or school schedule that they will review and approve.

On some occasions, you may be able to leave your home detention for community service or counseling sessions as well.

Same thing.


Thanks for this so I don't have to. The whole of Australia had one covid death two days ago. This means that people who support their covid Gestapo are morons.

And I am really trying to be nice...