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Coronavirus in Poland



Novichok
6 Aug 2021  #7051

"95% of the severe patients are vaccinated".

That means 5% of the severe patients are unvaccinated.
Conclusion: vaccine makes things worse.
?

"We will have to learn to live with Covid now and that is what the NHS is preparing to do."

And fires, earthquakes, tsunamis, global warming, climate change, overpopulation, abortions, STDs, car accidents, and gravity. When you fall out the window, you die.
Did I miss anything?

Novichok
6 Aug 2021  #7052

From yahoo.com:

'We are backsliding': The pandemic momentum has been squandered

...and so have the trillions the covid terrorists printed to pay for those moronic lockdowns.

WASHINGTON - Top public health officials are warning about an alarming rise in coronavirus cases, hospitalizations, and deaths, figures that represent a bitter setback in the fight to end the pandemic.

What "pandemic"? There is a pandemic going on and people die every day. .08% of the population, to be more accurate. In the US, that's 2,700,000. Every single year. It's known as life, idiots.

Korvinus
6 Aug 2021  #7053

People are falling unconscious in record numbers in the UK (emergency calls):

1

Heart attacks are also much higher than a year ago:

2

Must be that "delta variant", certainly not the clotshot.

assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/1006439/NASS_Bulletin_2021_29.pdf

Novichok
6 Aug 2021  #7054

They are passing out because they don't wear those life-saving, easy-to-breathe-through masks. Science says that if you wear two masks, breathing is even easier.

Especially when you are running.

mafketis
7 Aug 2021  #7055

Saturday fourth wave countdown t-minus 9

percent of positive test results: 0.40% of 45,508 tests

hospitalization: -+111 to 307

deaths: 4 (two with comorbidities)

from the previous day*: seven day moving average of daily deaths: up to 4

Currently infected up by 42 to reach 154,332 !!!!

*the source I use is a day behind and I'm too lazy to calculate on my own

jon357
7 Aug 2021  #7056

Currently infected up

That's the worry. It's impossible to understate the importance of the number of viral hosts; the more cases, the more and faster the mutations.

If it mutates into something milder, that's great. If it mutates into something worse, not great at all.

Novichok
7 Aug 2021  #7057

So, while this is still at the "if" stage, let's lock down the earth and temporarily place everybody in an orbit far enough to prevent more "cases".

I am not sure that it would work but then if a governor can place...you know the rest. After that stunt, no idea is too moronic, stupid, or criminal. BTW, he said it was "science". Just like that midget Fauci and that masks don't work.

mafketis
7 Aug 2021  #7058

. It's impossible to understate the importance of the number of viral hosts;

Isn't understanding the virus a big priority... yet another peer-reviewed paper finds that it's airborne (making masks useless) and not transmitted by droplets (which masks can help a little).

twitter.com/drkristenkc/status/1423801687513333762

It's almost as if the WHO isn't interested in this thing ending.... (along with a bunch of western governments).

Joker
7 Aug 2021  #7059

Just like that midget Fauci and that masks don't work.

Im seeing more and more morons wearing masks lately, I even seen another guy on a motorcycle wearing one yesterday. Wtf on a motorcycle? Thats just stupid!

Fauci is a flip flopper and is 100% political.

This new surge in the USA is Bidens fault as hes releasing covid infected migrant all across the country.

I hope the Governor of Florida is our next President.

jon357
7 Aug 2021  #7060

Isn't understanding the virus a big priority

A huge one. Fortunately it's not an unusual type of virus to understand.

masks

Aren't masks alone not intended as an absolute defence, but as a layer of protection, along with distancing and vaccination?

It's almost as if the WHO isn't interested in this thing ending.... (along with a bunch of western governments).

That is definitely dipping a toe in the sh1tty waters of unfounded conspiracy theory.

mafketis
7 Aug 2021  #7061

unfounded conspiracy theory.

Yeah they just put it on the cover of Time (as a great thing, because.....)

Also, who's been more accurate in their predictions..... the 'experts' or the 'conspiracy theorists' cause back in February one predicted exactly what's goin on now

Novichok
7 Aug 2021  #7062

That is definitely dipping a toe in the sh1tty waters...

...of vanity and desire to look and feel in control, plus a bonus of their friends making tons of money - some of it ending up as campaign contributions, bribes, or future employment.

Assume that evil has no limits and you will never feel like a fool.

Miloslaw
7 Aug 2021  #7063

That is definitely dipping a toe in the sh1tty waters of unfounded conspiracy theory

I'm afraid that Maf seems to have abandoned his normaly sensible self and embraced some of this rubbish.

jon357
7 Aug 2021  #7064

Yeah they just put it on the cover of Time

Magazines put all sorts on their covers to get potential buyers' attention. Was it an endorsement of the conspiracy theory or just signalling that the issue contained a report about it?

mafketis
7 Aug 2021  #7065

Was it an endorsement of the conspiracy theory

You tell me....

time.com/collection/great-reset/

jon357
7 Aug 2021  #7066

You tell me....

Happily. I had a look at your link, and it doesn't in any sense endorse or encourage any conspiracy theory at all.

All it says is "The COVID-19 pandemic has provided a unique opportunity to think about the kind of future we want" followed by various interviews with or articles by people including the Governor of Tokyo about the Olympics, an actress/model from the UK who dreams of a better world, an economist talking about opportunities and threats, a female CEO talking about the glass ceiling, Prince Harry talking about the 'digital word' and a well known classical musician talking about performance art.

Basically, it was on the cover to attract buyers.

mafketis
8 Aug 2021  #7067

I've been out of the loop.... a few days ago Niedzielski declared "Mamy już czwartą falę" (the fourth wave is already here)

So.... Sunday, day 4 of the fourth wave...

percent of positive test results: 0.33% of 36,723 tests

hospitalization: -+3 to 310

deaths: 0

from the previous day*: seven day moving average of daily deaths: back down to 3

Currently infected (how ever they happen to calculate that....) down 2 to reach 154,330 !!!!

*the source I use is a day behind and I'm too lazy to calculate on my own

Korvinus
8 Aug 2021  #7068

It's almost as if the WHO isn't interested in this thing ending....

There are obviously billions in profits at stake for the vaxx companies. But even more importantly there is also a push to have these idiotic vaxx passports become a part of daily life from now on. It is a power grab and for it to work, the "vaccines" need to appear safe.

Why do you think in Germany they are refusing to perform autopsies on suspected vaxx deaths, despite demands from all the leading pathologists there?

jon357
8 Aug 2021  #7069

deaths: 0

Excellent. There were 103 here on Plague Island.

It is a power grab

By whom and in what sense?

Germany they are refusing to perform autopsies on suspected vaxx deaths

Probably costs and time.

mafketis
8 Aug 2021  #7070

There were 103 here on Plague Island.

7 day moving average is a better metric (90 as of yesterday about 10-12 times bottom between waves).

By whom and in what sense?

The CCP - Xi Jinping has successfully exported CCP governing style (by decree of party leader) to most of the world and is now the most powerful and influential political leader in the world - think of 2020 as the inverse of 1989)

Tech-oligarchs - who are becoming insaningly even more insanely wealthy as a result of dysfunctional covid policies

Big Pharma - those vaccines they want people to take several times a year are not and won't be free

WEF types who want to turn everyone into medieval serfs tied to a small area - climate girl said people shouldn't fly a few years ago and now.... what's happened to air traffic?

jon357
8 Aug 2021  #7071

the most powerful and influential political leader in the world -

Yes, China is a huge worry at the moment. The rapid growth of China to being the world's main superpower predates the lockdowns though. The belt and rail operation is far bigger than most people imagine and there's hard to see a specific covid connection.

Tech-oligarchs... Pharma ...WEF

So basically big business does big business. It isn't anything new.

vaccines ... won't be free

They're free here. As are tests.

amiga500
8 Aug 2021  #7072

So basically big business does big business. It isn't anything new.

Yes but this pandemic profiteering, the equivalent of war profiteering where more audacious and immoral acts can be performed and we haven't had this in the west since 1945.

mafketis
8 Aug 2021  #7073

They're free here. As are tests.

Free at the end point doesn't mean free before that.... how is the government paying for the vaccines (and the time and infrastructure to deliver them)?

It isn't anything new.

Private economic concerns censoring a sitting US President (no matter what you think of him) is unprecedented.

hard to see a specific covid connection.

Everyone agreed in 2019 that China was headed toward recession.... not the rest of the world... then a virus found in China appears and lots of countries follow Chinese policies in dealing with it with horrific economic consequences... what a weird coincidence....

jon357
8 Aug 2021  #7074

government paying for the vaccines

Cheaply, since the NHS is the world's largest bulk purchaser of medicine (something that foreign companies esp. in France/Germany/Switzerland and the US really hate but have to live with) and distributed and administered freely and equal within the NHS's own structures. Efficiently too, in my personal experience of getting it. The U.K. is not a third world country without universal healthcare.

censoring a sitting US President (no matter what you think of him) is unprecedented.

No it isn't. Economists, business representatives, commentators censure them all the time. Nobody however has been 'censored'. Facebook and Twitter are private concerns. Being a head of state does not confer any special right to either use a commercial service or (as trumpet did) repeatedly break its terms of service and certainly not to use it to break the law by encouraging insurrection. Isn't there some sort of document over there that claims/pretends that everyone is supposed to be equal an that equality under the law is self-evident? Trumpet clicked on the same 'Agree' button as any other user of that service.

then a virus found in China appears .. what a weird coincidence....

Probably a coincidence, possibly not, however in the absence of any actual evidence, caution is a better approach than conspiracy theories.

mafketis
8 Aug 2021  #7075

Cheaply, and distributed and administered within the NHS.

Funded by.....?

conspiracy theories

A phrase which has undergone a weird semantic shift - it went from describing a way of understanding some events to commenting on the content.... ('propaganda' underwent a similar shift, from a way of presenting information to a comment about the content).

Let's not think about conspiracies... let's thing about agendas.....

Big-pharma has its own agenda which can be catastrophic to ordinary people (see the Sackler crime family and the thousands of deaths they're responsible for)

The tech-oligarchs have their own agenda

The CCP has its own agenda

the people behind and in the WEF (the ones who meet in Davos) has their own agenda

How much do you think their agendas coincide with yours? How much does your welfare figure into any of those agendas....

jon357
8 Aug 2021  #7076

Funded by.....?

All of us, as all medical costs are. Remember, the concept of medical bills is wholly alien here to almost anyone born after 1948.

A phrase which has undergone a weird semantic shift

This much is true, however as a term it hasn't become more respectable. Since covid and the trumpet disaster, conspiracy theories have run rife.

Big business and major exporters having an 'agenda' to make the profits that they exist to make is hardly a conspiracy though, nor is it new. As for China, their strategy in business growth is so transparent that it can hardly be called a conspiracy. They're doing (albeit on a more efficient scale, being enabled by very new tech) more or less what America tried to do in the 50s, what France and the U.K. we're up to 30 years before.

How much does your welfare figure into any of those

You know my political affiliation. Does the welfare of workers figure at all to businesses other than in the matter of keeping them able to work in situations where they can't be immediately or cheaply replaced by scab labour, or spend their meagre wages in privately owned shops. This is nothing new; the Labour Movement has been saying it since 1830.

Novichok
8 Aug 2021  #7077

Since covid and the trumpet disaster,

There is no "trumpet disaster". There was a Cuomo disaster if you were one of the many seniors who were killed by that moron.

Based on deaths per million: Poland -19, UK - 20, US - 21 at about 1900 per.

Translation: There are 20 more disastrous disasters than the trumpet disaster. Yeah, I know, numbers are a bit*ch.

Or did you confuse Covid with the Olympics?

jon357
8 Aug 2021  #7078

the trumpet disaster.

That one lasted 4 years, however is fortunately now over thanks to the will of the voting public..

Novichok
8 Aug 2021  #7079

the will of the voting public..

...that just loves those millions of unvaccinated foreign scum that is being spread all over the US by the genius successor of the evil Trump. When they arrive at the final destination, they spread what we, Americans, love so much and just can't get enough of - that delta thingy. It helps those underworked nurses and doctors to keep busy.

The reason why I like you so much, jon, is that you make your posts such easy targets. Another reason is that you are smart enough to relieve me of signaling sarcasm.

jon357
8 Aug 2021  #7080

foreign scum that is being spread all over the US

What a stupid thing to say. It's a nation of immigrants there (including you) and has been since the 17th century.

those underworked nurses and doctors.

Even more stupid. Spectacularly so.

such easy targets.

Yet you can't refute the post


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