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Coronavirus in Poland



Korvinus
12 Sep 2021  #7441

Covid is just the common cold. But hospitals follow a protocol made by the WHO, and they typically place patients to ventilators almost instantly. They keep them there until their lungs are turned into mush from the high pressure of oxygen. That what is killing people, not the virus.

Novichok
12 Sep 2021  #7442

They keep them there until their lungs are turned into mush

Come on, Kor! Don't you know that it's all "science" because Fauci - God's Very Special Ambassador to Planet Covid - said it's "science"?

Are you now going to play Lyzko-type semantics with that "from" vs. "with" like those crazy covid deniers? Like who cares..."From", "with" - as long as hospitals get paid for the tests and those ventilators, all is fine. You know that hospitals have employees who need to be paid, don't you...

Lyzko
12 Sep 2021  #7443

I never once "denied" COVID. However, I did question obligatory innoculations for those not medically unable to withstand the respective medication!

mafketis
13 Sep 2021  #7444

Day 40 (or 30*) of the fourth wave...

percent of positive test results: 1.20 % of 22,440 tests... (I would have expected a higher percentage with so few tests...)

hospitalization: +29 = 704

percentage of positive tests to hospital admissions:

seven day moving average : 5.2 % (- 0.7)

day 40: 10.8 %
day 39: 1.9 %
day 38: 8.1 %
day 37: 0.6 %
day 36: 1.7 %
day 35: 3.3 %
day 34: 10.1 %

intensive care: -5 to 80

deaths: 0 (second day in a row, against rising hospitalization that's good... a bit early to say but perhaps as in England hospitalizations are getting more numerous but less serious)

from the previous day**: seven day moving average of daily deaths : 6 (-2)

Currently infected (how ever they happen to calculate that....) some bogus number over 159,000.... (which kind of throws a lot of the other numbers into doubt as well...)

*the minister of health first announced the fourth wave for the second half of august but jumped the gun 10 days earlier saying it had already begun)

**the source I use is a day behind and I'm too lazy to calculate on my own

mafketis
13 Sep 2021  #7445

Interestinger and interestinger.....

twitter.com/placzekgrzegorz/status/1437292669944881154

translation (quick and dirty):
ATTENTION! On Sept 10, 2021. @MZ_GOV_PL denied me access to public information concerning the number of persons hospitalized due to C-19 who are
-vaccinated
-unvaccinated
@a_niedzielski
Do you have something to hide? Is there something suspicious with the numbers?

chrisshrew
13 Sep 2021  #7446

They are biodegradable

Good point, however I think I would rather use ones I can keep and just wash regularly than constantly get packs of masks for every day I go out. Especially as nobody knows if or when it will stop being a requirement in many places.

Cargo pants
13 Sep 2021  #7447

Do you have something to hide? Is there something suspicious with the numbers?

Definitely and Yes.

johnny reb
13 Sep 2021  #7448

As of a week ago only 338 kids between the age of 5 to 18 have died from Covid in the U.S.A. or .001%.
Now they want to vaccinate all kids over 5 years old in the next six weeks !

msn.com/en-us/news/us/gottlieb-says-vaccines-could-be-approved-for-kids-5-11-by-end-of-october/ar-AAOmyJu?ocid=uxbndlbing

In my opinion this is nothing more than a political ploy to take the focus off the real government issues plaguing us.

My last stop was at VFW Post 540. No masks.

Isn't VFW (Veterans of Foreign Wars) a Socialized Drinking Club for Vet's ?
I didn't know you were a Vet.

Novichok
13 Sep 2021  #7449

Do you have something to hide?

YES!!! Try: how many healthy people under 80 died FROM covid. That is "pandemic". The rest is bullsh*it.

That's one. The second that will be harder to hide or lie about: how many people died in Poland (or the US) in 2020.

I mean the total, from all causes. My prediction: it will be a lot fewer than all deaths in 2019 plus the claimed 2020 covid deaths.

Novichok
13 Sep 2021  #7450

Not directly about covid but a good look at how the health criminals, doctors and the government, co-operate to bs the trusting public and guys like Tacitus. From:

dnyuz.com/2021/09/11/phony-diagnoses-hide-high-rates-of-drugging-at-nursing-homes/

Phony Diagnoses Hide High Rates of Drugging at Nursing Homes

Eight months following his admission with a long list of ailments - and after round-the-clock sedation, devastating weight loss, pneumonia and severe bedsores that required one of his feet to be amputated - Mr. Blakeney was dead.

A New York Times investigation found a similar pattern of questionable diagnoses nationwide. The result: The government and the industry are obscuring the true rate of antipsychotic drug use on vulnerable residents.


Yeap. The government and the industry are obscuring because these bastards are doing it for a living - obscuring. So what else are they obscuring?

Maybe the covid statistics?

Tacitus
13 Sep 2021  #7451

Today an ambulance car arrived at a house a few hundred meters away from mine. There has apparantly been a Covid outbreak among the family living there, the mother (in her late 40s has been taken to the hospital). I don't really know those people, but I do meet the mother from time to while jogging through a nearby park. She looked healthy last time I saw her a few weeks ago. I hope she and her family will be ok.

Cargo pants
13 Sep 2021  #7452

She looked healthy last time I saw her a few weeks ago

I personally know 6 people who died from covid and maybe 11 who got it from ages 45 to 74.All who died were the younger age group in that bracket.All were healthy as a horse and some who survived are weak after the disease.

mafketis
13 Sep 2021  #7453

I knew 2 (for sure) who died after being hospitalized and being put on respirators. I maybe know a third (I know they died in December but I'm not sure if it was covid)

Two were over 60 (one over 70) and generally seemingly healthy. The members of one's family also had covid but got over it after about a week...

Novichok
13 Sep 2021  #7454

Individual cases do not statistics make. The worse of matriarchal societies is that laws are made so often in response to outliers - preferably cute 10-year-old girls. Show 'em one sad face in tears, and they would vote to print another 100 trillion bucks.

johnny reb
13 Sep 2021  #7455

Research conducted by the University of California has found that teenage boys (12 - 17) are six times more likely to suffer from heart problems caused by the COVID-19 vaccine than to be hospitalized as a result of COVID-19 itself.

And the hypocrisy even gets better.
MEMBERS OF CONGRESS AND THEIR STAFF ARE EXEMPT FROM biden's VACCINE MANDATE. :-/
I'd like to see all the parents in the U.S.A. just keep all their children home from school and bring the Government to their senses.

Novichok
14 Sep 2021  #7456

More about statistics and how covid mafia lies to us...From:

theatlantic.com/health/archive/2021/09/covid-hospitalization-numbers-can-be-misleading/620062/

Our Most Reliable Pandemic Number Is Losing Meaning

A new study suggests that almost half of those hospitalized with COVID-19 have mild or asymptomatic cases.

From mid-January through the end of June 2021, however, that number rose to 48 percent. In other words, the study suggests that roughly half of all the hospitalized patients showing up on COVID-data dashboards in 2021 may have been admitted for another reason entirely, or had only a mild presentation of the disease.


In the meantime, the bed where a guy with a running nose is watching TV is not available for someone with cancer because cancer can wait a bit and is not priority one - that would be covid and running noses.

amiga500
14 Sep 2021  #7457

Here are the latest statistics on covid deaths from the U.K since the polish minister is not forthcoming.

In the first study of deaths by vaccination status, the ONS found that around 99 per cent of Covid-19 deaths between January 2 and July 2 2021 were in people who had not had two doses.

Overall 640 (1.2 per cent) of deaths were in those who had received both vaccine doses, but the ONS said many of those could have been infections picked up before the second dose.

Just 256 deaths (0.5 per cent) were considered true "breakthrough" infections where the second dose had long enough to work, but still did not offer protection.
It means that 99.51 per cent of coronavirus deaths since the beginning of the year were in people who were not fully vaccinated.

telegraph.co.uk/news/2021/09/13/just-59-double-jabbed-people-50000-died-covid-year-says-ons/

Korvinus
14 Sep 2021  #7458

^^^^^^Watch me perpetrate meaningless calculations based upon unproven statistics and sum the result with maximum bias.

mafketis
14 Sep 2021  #7459

Day 41 (or 31*) of the fourth wave...

percent of positive test results: 1.18 % of 45,514 tests...

hospitalization: +78 = 782 very big increase, we'll see where this goes....

percentage of positive tests to hospital admissions:

seven day moving average : 5.8 % (+ 0.6)

day 41: 14.5 %
day 40: 10.8 %
day 39: 1.9 %
day 38: 8.1 %
day 37: 0.6 %
day 36: 1.7 %
day 35: 3.3 %

intensive care: +2 to 82

deaths: 8 (7 with comorbidities)

from the previous day**: seven day moving average of daily deaths : 7 (+1)

Currently infected (how ever they happen to calculate that....) some bogus number over 160,000.... (which kind of throws a lot of the other numbers into doubt as well...)

*the minister of health first announced the fourth wave for the second half of august but jumped the gun 10 days earlier saying it had already begun)

**the source I use is a day behind and I'm too lazy to calculate on my own

Novichok
14 Sep 2021  #7460

deaths: 8 (7 with comorbidities)

Equals 1.
1 equals BFD.

mafketis
14 Sep 2021  #7461

I report, readers decide....

Novichok
14 Sep 2021  #7462

BFD was about 1, not your report. Your reports are fine.

Tacitus
14 Sep 2021  #7463

Except people mit comorbidities might still be alive without Covid.

Korvinus
14 Sep 2021  #7464

And not a word about the unprecedented number of vaccine deaths and injuries, even according to official statistics which exclude those who died within 14 days of injection.

Novichok
14 Sep 2021  #7465

For how long? How many of those with comorbidities did their very best to get that way? And why should I pay the consequences because they were reckless with their health by eating like pigs, boozing, sitting on the couch all day long, and ignoring every sensible advice from their doctors?

This morning I witnessed the ultimate in brainless covid terror and stupidy: a mailman with a mask. For the non-US readers, our mailmen do not walk up to the door, ring the doorbell, and say, hello Mrs. Smith, here is your mail today. Have a good day. Delivering mail here is the loneliest job on earth.

Yet, the covid terrorists still managed to put that dust shield on the poor guy.
The only explanation for this idiocy is that he could infect himself; hence that mask.

And not a word about the unprecedented number of vaccine deaths and injuries,

You (editorial) report that the day before your retirement or if you really hate your job.

Korvinus
14 Sep 2021  #7466

Inactivated vaccines such as Sinofarm aren't approved by WHO as they don't produce the "desired" effects.
The Chinese have Sinopharm and other inactivated vaccines, the Russians now have CoviVac as well, as does India - basically everyone except the West. The French Valneva trial is being blocked at every turn.

Bratwurst Boy
14 Sep 2021  #7467

The French Valneva trial is being blocked at every turn.

Any links for that?

Scratch that, just found the info....stupid Brits! Hopefully Brussels is smarter....

And Germany too....german health minister Spahn is already calculating with 11 billion doses for 2022!

manager-magazin.de/unternehmen/pharma/valneva-grossbritannien-storniert-einzigen-auftrag-fuer-corona-impfstoff-a-18d3778b-15e4-4e9a-b1f6-f30bcfa68143

(Curevac on the other hand has totally fallen out, what losers)

Lyzko
14 Sep 2021  #7468

Never forget, kids, the overwhelming power of the subsidy!

Novichok
14 Sep 2021  #7469

...and free-market killer.

jon357
14 Sep 2021  #7470

Covid is just the common cold

They keep them there until their lungs are turned into mush from the high pressure of oxygen.

That what is killing people, not the virus.

Imagine actually believing that crap...


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