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Novichok
11 Sep 2021  #7411

But hey....your body - your choice!

This is not where the pis*ing contest is! It's that I have to wear a mask to protect a stranger 10 feet away.

As you said, my body = my business so let's not go back to this non-subject.

Yesterday, I went cruizing Illinois. I spoke to about a dozen people about masks being forced on us. EVERY single person was as annoyed by them as I was and was wearing them only as a condition of employment. My last stop was at VFW Post 540. No masks. Not even the bartender lady.

FYI, everyone there was over 65. Do you think they all had a death wish?

I googled "mask efficiency" many times. All I get is "masks have been proven..." crap stories and no numbers. Maybe I am a bad googler.

Bratwurst Boy
11 Sep 2021  #7412

As you said, my body = my business so let's not go back to this non-subject.

No disagreement from me....

But then accept that people choose to wear a mask for themselves, not some stranger!

Cargo pants
11 Sep 2021  #7413

everyone there was over 65. Do you think they all had a death wish?

lol if they did care about that they would have never joined the Armed Forces.I bet most/all were vaccinated, lol maybe with the third booster jab too.Did you serve in the Armed Forces that they allowed you in or you knew anyone?

VFW Post

Reminds me of American Legion next to my liq store where I was always invited to come for a drink,which I did in my 30s for 1$ a drink in Lakewood nj.Usually ole timer alcoholics would hang there all day.

Korvinus
11 Sep 2021  #7414

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utopia_(2020_TV_series)
It's a show from 2020, produced in 2019, but based on a British show from 2014.

"(1) Convincing the world's population that there is an outbreak of a deadly new virus, (2) Once convinced of the narrative of the faux-pandemic, announce to the public the creation of a new vaccine, (3) Through the coordination between global elites and non-governmental organizations, governments move quickly to inject the world's population with this "vaccine". (4) Once the population is injected, it turns out that the vaccine is designed to sterilize almost all of those people that take it, causing the global population to drop from 7.8 billion to about 500 million, and ushering in a new era of plenty."

I understand the logic of predictive programming and there might be something to it, observe in our own social environment how many people would agree with the statement: "World's overpopulation problem must be solved" - while the actual reproduction number in western and eastern european countries have been on the decline the last decades, so it's not even OUR problem.

However, hardly anyone watched this stupid Utopia show so it's not like it has a big impact on social consciousness. So what is the reason that amazon decided to reboot a show not even one year before the world finds itself in the same situation depicted, ending it at the exact point where the plan is revealed and cancelled after that (whether you agree with the conspiracy theories surrounding the virus and vaccine or not, the timing is just really bizarre)? Pure coincidence? Did someone think it would be funny to bury the big plan in an obscure tv show no one watched? Discreditation of dissidents by associating their ideas with fiction?

Maybe they just want to drive people insane by blurring the line between fantasy and reality. And now that i think about it, this is also what happens due to digitalisation and a world spanning news network, people basically know more about countries they have never been than what happens in their own backyard. Alienation from reality.

Bratwurst Boy
11 Sep 2021  #7415

...maybe it is....but still....better safe than sorry, till I know more!

Novichok
11 Sep 2021  #7416

But then accept that people choose to wear a mask for themselves, not some stranger!

And that is where their stupidity comes out in full since masks don't protect the wearer. That's one thing CDC, Fauci, and others said that I trust.

What is still unknown is the social cost of of not seeing full faces. Child psychologists are already alarmed by the fact that babies are unable to learn from the masked idiots around them what faces come with various messages.

Among adults, the problem does not involve learning but simply social interacting. My best example is from my own experience of how I met my wife. If we both had those stupid masks on the day we met, most likely we wouldn't be married today. It started with a smile and small talk from two feet, not 6, because the party was too loud for "social distancing".

Bottom line: how long I want to live and of what quality my life is my decision. Safetism has a price I am not willing to pay. Obedient morons are happily paying it and force masks on their kids only because they are terminally obedient or because the mask fascists didn't disclose the dark side.

Bratwurst Boy
11 Sep 2021  #7417

since masks don't protect the wearer.

Oh please!

But interesting...several posts back you would like to see them hanging but on THIS stuff you believe them....quite selective your hearing and believing, huh?

fact that babies are unable to learn from the masked idiots

Then I wonder how the Asians do it....with their high IQ overachievers in the schools....where masks are a part of the daily lives for years now...

voanews.com/science-health/coronavirus-outbreak/not-just-coronavirus-asians-have-worn-face-masks-decades

Novichok
11 Sep 2021  #7418

No, they don't unless you are close and the guy in front spits in your face. How many times did THAT happen to you? Try zero.

The aerosolized virus is too small to be caught by that stupid mask so 90% of it goes right through into BB's lungs.

Bratwurst Boy
11 Sep 2021  #7419

Try 99% ! And I'm still healthy...

An FFP3 mask for example has a ventil to make breathing easier....they are generally more comfortable for the wearer. But because of the ventil they are sold with the warning that they DON'T work for their environment, not guarding other people around, but ONLY the wearer!

They are the EGO variant of safety....

google.com/search?q=FFP3+maske+mit+ventil&newwindow=1&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiM96Sjo_fyAhVFg_0HHdYeAj8Q_AUoAXoECAEQAw&biw=1239&bih=653

Novichok
11 Sep 2021  #7420

.quite selective your hearing and believing, huh?

Simple. Like that broken clock, when Fauci says they don't protect the wearer and later that they do, he was truthful at least once.

Bratwurst Boy
11 Sep 2021  #7421

Because they still didn't know WHAT masks they were talking about? Because they didn't know WHICH ones are needed and working back then?

People learned alot more since the beginnings....keep up!

Novichok
11 Sep 2021  #7422

An FFP3 mask for example has a ventil to make breathing easier....

So does a full HAZMAT suit. I am talking only about the throwaway jokes ordinary people wear while shopping. Nothing else.

Bratwurst Boy
11 Sep 2021  #7423

Nothing else.

Well....then I'm bowing out here...I wouldn't put that crap on my face either!

Novichok
11 Sep 2021  #7424

Today, data should be in and the question of how much incremental protection a mask ADDS to a fully vaccinated person like me should be available.

I even got that booster shot, I wash hands, don't touch my face when I am out, don't shake hands, keep the distance, and have never been next to a coughing person since the beginning of that "pandemic" that kills 0.15% - the majority of them sick already.

Now, with all that in place, how much safety does that mask add while I am barely breathing and my heart is pounding. A number, not essays, please. Ignorance is a defense in this case.

Korvinus
11 Sep 2021  #7425

What would work?

ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8415509/
Ivermectin can prevent the entry into the cell nucleus of the viral RNA by blocking importin alpha/beta, thereby preventing replication because SARS-CoV-2 does not have the nuclear mechanisms and enzymatic actions for the transcription of new viral replicates.4 Our study is supported by findings which demonstrated the effect of ivermectin as a drug for inhibiting viral replication in vitro and places the drug as a new therapeutic candidate against SARS-CoV-2

tga.gov.au/media-release/new-restrictions-prescribing-ivermectin-covid-19
Australians are doing it right now. Australia bans the use of Ivermectin to treat the lung disease, doesn't cite any scientific evidence as to why, merely states that not doing so will cause people to be hesitant to get the vaccine.

Novichok
11 Sep 2021  #7426

Try 99% ! And I'm still healthy...
An FFP3 mask for example

You, BB, lied by omission. None of the masks claims to filter the virus. Only the particles and droplets.

If they did filter the virus, it would be in a triple-size, red font right on the box! And every 15 minutes on teevee.
If the masks you wear do not filter on the way out, you are a hateful, uncaring, selfish narcissist like me. Welcome.

Bratwurst Boy
11 Sep 2021  #7427

You, BB, lied by omission.

I apologize not mentioning that, I really thought that was common knowledge...

Only the particles and droplets.

Ummm....the virus get's transferred through particles and droplets....an FFP3 filters particles and droplets....where is your problem!!!

Why do you think people better not sneeze into your face? Why do you think you better wash your hands with some chemical disinfectant? Because of the particles and droplets which could transport the virus!!!

(....and additionally to that every other particle- an droplet-transferred contagious sickness)

If they did filter the virus,

If there would be something filtering a virus directly we would not only conquer Covid but also Influenza and what not...

Welcome.

Thanks, but I never claimed to be something else....I'm totally selfishly interested in my health....and till now I don't trust anybody else with it!

Novichok
11 Sep 2021  #7428

.the virus gets transferred through particles and droplets...

OK, so my mask caught the droplets. Droplets evaporate and I inhale the virus for as long as that Petree dish is on my face. Duh!

Do you change your mask each time after somebody sneezed close to you?

Today, a mask that stops the virus one way or the other would be advertised boldly and directly, not by implication or suggestion.

Show me one an ordinary person can buy that has "virus" on the package.

Bratwurst Boy
11 Sep 2021  #7429

Duh!

Rich....you just got voluntarily that alien stuff into your blood...several times....DUH!

Novichok
11 Sep 2021  #7430

It's actually very simple. There is a never-ending conflict between the ruling mob and the people. The mob wants all their money and power and will do anything to get it and keep it. Hence, I don't trust one damn word they say - covid, masks, lockdowns, refugees, and Afghanistan included.

Newsflash: Germany is run by the same set of rules.

Bratwurst Boy
11 Sep 2021  #7431

But the vaccinations you trust???

Tacitus
11 Sep 2021  #7432

when Fauci says they don't protect the wearer and later that they do, he was truthful at least once

Fauci follows the science. We did not have initial studies that proved that masks were particulary effective (and how could we, studies take time) thus the initial scepticism (besides, we did not have enough anyway). Now that we have evidence that masks work, he and other scientists advise to wear them.

To an outsider, it is truly amazing how some Americans have treated Fauci. The man is one of the worlds foremost epidemologists and the USA was particulary lucky to have him as a voice of reason during the Trump disaster. Yet they belittle and disregard him.

Lyzko
11 Sep 2021  #7433

Many though such as Dr. Gary Null along with others in his coterie maintain that Fauci is merely a tool of the system and ought not force people to receive innoculations if the latter have either a pre-existing condition or are allergic to the introduction of unknown toxins into the body.

In Germany, apparently not only testing, but innoculations as well (particularly Astra-Zeneca) in addition to masking are still in force.

mafketis
11 Sep 2021  #7434

. We did not have initial studies that proved that masks were particulary effective (and how could we, s

Clown world. he was involved in gain of function research and has since simply covered his behind

Novichok
11 Sep 2021  #7435

Fauci follows the science.

BS. Fauci, the who*re with a title, follows his masters who fund and run WHO and America's owners who pay his salary.

Science is strictly numbers. Science does not tolerate adjectives, stories, anecdotes, and never, ever uses words like "trust" or "settled".

Clown world.

...except nobody is laughing.

OK, I was wrong. Bezos and others like him are. How much did their net go up in 2020 when desperate people were ready to jump off the bridge?

I don't blame Tacitus for being naive. From a distance, Hitler looked like a statesman. From 200 feet in the air, Gary, Indiana, seems like a perfect place to visit.

mafketis
11 Sep 2021  #7436

Even Newsweek is starting to stop covering for Fauci

newsweek.com/fauci-untruthful-congress-wuhan-lab-research-documents-show-gain-function-1627351

Bratwurst Boy
11 Sep 2021  #7437

F**** Wuhan!

Novichok
11 Sep 2021  #7438

We tend to think that slime and crap are down below. It's just the opposite. The higher you go, the worse the stink, Tacitus.

mafketis
12 Sep 2021  #7439

Day 39 (or 29*) of the fourth wave...

percent of positive test results: 1.55 % of 30,754 tests...

hospitalization: +9 = 675

percentage of positive tests to hospital admissions:

seven day moving average : 5.9 % (+ 0.2)

day 39: 1.9 %
day 38: 8.1 %
day 37: 0.6 %
day 36: 1.7 %
day 35: 3.3 %
day 34: 10.1 %
day 33: 15.8 %

intensive care: +3 to 85

deaths: 0

from the previous day**: seven day moving average of daily deaths : 8 (+2)

Currently infected (how ever they happen to calculate that....) some bogus number over 159,000.... (which kind of throws a lot of the other numbers into doubt as well...)

*the minister of health first announced the fourth wave for the second half of august but jumped the gun 10 days earlier saying it had already begun)

**the source I use is a day behind and I'm too lazy to calculate on my own

Novichok
12 Sep 2021  #7440

Funny thing with those masks. Kids, with their God-given amazing immunity, absolutely, positively must have them all day long - inside or outside - regardless if they live alone or with six grandmas and grandpas. That's what the corona terrorists are telling us lately.

The beautiful people, packing Ashe Stadium to watch the women's finals - do not. I mean they were sitting there elbow to elbow, screaming, chatting, and totally oblivious of the horrible virus - that "highly contagious" version, no less - just cruizing over their heads and ready for the kill.

Even the players and the referee, instead of setting a good example for the rest of the lesser people who couldn't afford $2500 to be there, were not wearing masks, either. To the best of my knowledge, nobody called the cops to forcibly evacuate that death chamber.

Then I found an explanation for that strange scene. I read that tennis balls are made of the stuff that kills the virus within 750 meters. I felt so relieved. Another explanation was that if you ignore it, it will ignore you and just go away.


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