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Coronavirus in Poland



johnny reb
17 Sep 2021  #7531

I want to wear a mask.
I keep repeating myself that I don't want to wear a mask and diminish your choice if you do - unacceptable.

mafketis
17 Sep 2021  #7532

most of the Brittish population has been vaccinated with Astra Zenaca

And Israel?

Novichok
17 Sep 2021  #7533

...with 80% vaccinated and the third wave just as bad as the first one when nobody was vaccinated!
So, those lockdowns, distancing, masks, and vaccines didn't help much, did they?
OK, maybe psychologically..."We are doing something..."
The next wave should be attacked with prayers - everybody at the same time to make it more effective.

Dirk diggler
17 Sep 2021  #7534

So, those lockdowns, distancing, masks, and vaccines didn't help much, did they?

Of course not. They were never meant to...

It's going to be the same cycle of new wave/new mutation or varient -> threatening lockdowns -> telling people they need to mask up and take more boosters -> criticizing people taking other treatments -> saying that the new wave is caused by those not following mandates and the unvaxxed even though clearly the vaxx has had no significant effect even by popular statistics -> reimplement lockdowns -> gradually ease restrictions as people grow uneasy -> repeat

Bratwurst Boy
17 Sep 2021  #7535

Johnson & Johnson seems to be especially susceptible to the new mutation....more breakthrough infections than with other vaccinations...about 2000 new-infections in 1 mill fully vaccinated people.

For comparison...for Biontech/Pfizer there are about 675 re-infections per 1 mill fully vaccinated people.

bz-berlin.de/welt/offenbar-gehaeufte-impfdurchbrueche-bei-impfstoff-von-johnson-johnson

It seems that one dose (Johnson & Johnson) is less effective than more doses....

Novichok
17 Sep 2021  #7536

Hey, BB, I appreciate your new self so I will go easy...

Please tell me why a vaccinated guy wearing your super mask would want a mask on another vaccinated guy like me.

I know it will be painful for you but try to represent the mask terrorists for a moment....

Dirk diggler
17 Sep 2021  #7537

Please tell me why a vaccinated guy wearing your super mask would want a mask on another vaccinated guy like me.

Pics are worth a thousand words, so I'll post some pictures that describe the situation....


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Bratwurst Boy
17 Sep 2021  #7538

Hey, BB, I appreciate your new self

What new? It's still the same old me...I think...

Please tell me why a vaccinated guy wearing your super mask would want a mask on another vaccinated guy like me.

He hates you for not suffering the same inconveniences like he himself does....for the good cause and all that!

The petty, self righteous, a little bit dictatorial inclined type who likes to control others...

(I really wish they would stop that....everybody should take care of himself first)

Novichok
17 Sep 2021  #7539

Pics are worth a thousand words,

Let me guess...You never joined the Church of Safetism where you must swear to wear HAZMAT suits in bed or you are expelled.
What I just wrote could be funny if not for the fact I see the mask zombies every day. The last one riding a bike.

To their credit and my relief, nobody gives a sh*it in stores

Bratwurst Boy
17 Sep 2021  #7540

And now a question for you....did that biker somehow forced you to wear a mask? Or even glare at you because you didn't? What's it to you if he wears a mask or not? Do you feel personally attacked by a mask-wearer? Even if he doesn't care if you are vaccinated or in denial or gonna be infected?

Caring about yourself first, leaving others alone, goes both ways!

Dirk diggler
17 Sep 2021  #7541

I know... I can't help but shake my head when I see people wearing masks inside their cars... I don't wear a mask when I go into an establishment and if they say something about it, fine I'll leave - that's the last time they got my business and there's plenty of others who aren't going to go all SS-Maskerubercommando where I'd rather spend my money.

Some clubs, bars, restaurants, etc. are going a step further and requiring patrons to show a vaxx card... yeah I'll never go there that's for sure...

To be honest, we're still WAAAAY better off than Europe... you have thousands of people who were suspended from their jobs without pay because they didn't get an experimental gene therapy posing as a vaccine...

Out of all the countries Australia is probably the worst. They have straight up curfews, police patrols, all sorts of **** all because of a few hundred cases, few dozen deaths over the whole country across the whole covid pandemic.

Canada isn't too far off - I love the Polish priest that always stands up to the covid authorities calling them gestapo and communists lololol... "do it the nazi style!!! do it the nazi style!!!" as he goes limp forcing the cops to carry him into the squad car rofl

youtube.com/watch?v=BC1o4__XZM4

Bratwurst Boy
17 Sep 2021  #7542

PS: People wanting other people to put down their masks are not that different to those who want others to put a mask on...

You are really just the other side of the same coin....petty...controling....dictatorial! You too are convinced of your good cause, that you are on the right side and everybody else ist just stupid and plain wrong!

Dirk diggler
17 Sep 2021  #7543

Clearly you don't know much about gestapo or the communists and their methods of dealing with their opponents :)

Seeing as like most Poles I've had family imprisoned, maimed and even murdered by such groups, I'm keenly aware. It changes nothing.

Tell me, what horrible consequences did the "heroic" priest have to face because of his valiant opposition to "covid gestapo"?

Arrest, tens of thousands in fines, show trials... much more than the average person would be willing to deal with or give up

Bratwurst Boy
17 Sep 2021  #7544

Tell me, what horrible consequences did the "heroic" priest have to face

Good point!

Arrest, tens of thousands in fines, show trials

A link to that please!

Dirk diggler
17 Sep 2021  #7545

All you have to do is google/youtube artur pawlowski... I'm not going to do your research for you

That's the brave new covid world where a priest gets arrested for having Sunday mass....


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Bratwurst Boy
17 Sep 2021  #7546

He lives in Canada!

Does Canada now want to change/opress the polish people too?

GefreiterKania
17 Sep 2021  #7547

Arrest, tens of thousands in fines, show trials

Well, it would be death in a concentration camp in case of Gestapo and a bullet in the back of the head in case of communists, so maybe the comparison wasn't very precise. :)

Anti-vaccine people and all the conspiracy theorists in general tend to be slightly hysterical. However, using words like "gestapo" or "communists" to describe democratic authorities who are merely trying to control the pandemic is a little bit over the top, to put it mildly.

So much for the (...) right to self-determination and right to informed decision

As far as I know vaccinations are not compulsory, are they?

mafketis
17 Sep 2021  #7548

vaccinations are not compulsory, are they?

Not in Poland.... and I'd say Poland is vaccinated enough, much more and it will enter the over-vaccinated territory of the UK and Israel....

Some people are wondering if we're going to end up with a Marek scenario due to too many vaccinations with medications that were not sufficiently tested...

pbs.org/newshour/science/tthis-chicken-vaccine-makes-virus-dangerous

Bratwurst Boy
17 Sep 2021  #7549

Italy now enforces vaccinations for all working people....as did Greece before....hopefully Germany isn't following down that path!

npr.org/sections/coronavirus-live-updates/2021/09/17/1038240183/italy-vaccine-health-pass-for-employees?t=1631911847881

It's a difference if a cinema or a restaurant demands a vaccination certificate or your boss...

GefreiterKania
17 Sep 2021  #7550

Italy now enforces vaccinations for all working people...

That's going a bit too far (and only reinforcing the silly conspiracy theories).

Bratwurst Boy
17 Sep 2021  #7551

Yeah....bad move!

And if it helps long term is also in question as a new study shows:

The effectivenes of a Biontech/Pfizer vaccination decreases after a few months!

berliner-zeitung.de/news/impfstoff-von-biotech-wirksamkeit-nimmt-alle-zwei-monaten-sechs-prozent-ab-li.183563

Pfizer and Moderna say Covid vaccine protection wanes over time

ft.com/content/8d42600f-7da3-452a-a7ab-22735c6f73c7

After 4 months the potency of the second dose is down to 83,7%.

(A mask doesn't detoriate....if you don't wear the same one for four months that is!:)

GefreiterKania
17 Sep 2021  #7552

So probably booster doses will be recommended after some time. And a good mask can't hurt. :)

Bratwurst Boy
17 Sep 2021  #7553

I have really high hopes for the new kind of vaccines coming next year to end that experimenting and continuing boostering....but it will take awhile till I leave the house without my trusted mask! :)

Novichok
17 Sep 2021  #7554

did that biker somehow forced you to wear a mask?

No, he didn't but he did tell me that he is a brainless moron - the scary thing being that these people are morons 24/7/365 and vote! I see way too many morons around me to feel good - even if they say noting but I know what's on their moronic minds: oh, here is another reason - me - why we will all die tonight.

You are ignoring the fact that to us, non-morons, masked morons are adding to the feeling of perpetual doom and fear: oh, there is something scary in the air! Let's run away but where???

And the kids...How do you give them their unafraid, care-free childhood back with mask zombies all around and the teachers telling them that they must wear those masks playing outside?

NAZI occupation of Poland was less scary and there were no lockdowns for months because the NAZIS knew that it cannot be done. The Australian covid Gestapo is worse.

Bratwurst Boy
17 Sep 2021  #7555

We all have to bear morons....it's just a fact of life. If all were so smart like me life would be so much better! :)

unafraid, care-free childhood

That is a myth by old people looking back with rose tinted glasses!

Childhood never was for most kids "care free and unafraid", quite the contrary...

Don't forget growing up in a dictatorship, getting brainwashed and lied to and threatend since Kindergarten...or the fear of the coming nuclear war during the Sixties....now it's the climate crisis which brings kids to starve themselves in front of the Reichstag....

Not to mention the whole common problems with dysfunctional families and ****** parents..

gumishu
17 Sep 2021  #7556

Childhood never was for most kids "care free and unafraid", quite the contrary.

it was for me - so we are now two (me and Novichok) vs one (you)

Bratwurst Boy
17 Sep 2021  #7557

Maybe you just forgot about all the fears and insecurities....

gumishu
17 Sep 2021  #7558

And Israel?

Israel's population has been vaccinated solely with the Pfizer vaccine - and as far as I know it is in much better shape than the UK

Novichok
17 Sep 2021  #7559

now it's the climate crisis which brings kids to starve

The difference is that brilliant parents like me have a reasonable chance to undo that damage.
With teachers - the stupidest people on earth - having been elevated to near-gods, and the mask zombies all around, that task got a lot harder.

Novichok
17 Sep 2021  #7560

Newsflash!!! The bastards are lying!!! About everything!!! Who would ever expect THAT...

youtu.be/MXUtWkE4a6c


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