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amiga500
24 Sep 2021  #7651

it's the exact same article reposted by a multitdude of fake news sites. the fact that Max Blumenthal is a tweet in the article suggests it's russian disinfo. how dumb can you be? don't forget i read australian sources both for and anti lockdown, mainstream and independent. everyone says it was 1 to 2k people, even the protesters. you really are stupid.

mafketis
24 Sep 2021  #7652

both for and anti lockdo

What is the pro-lockdown argument? they don't work anywhere ever.... if lockdowns worked they would have already (as some say).

The sad fact is that China bought the Australian government which has more in common with Chinese Communist rather than traditional Australian practices and policies.

amiga500
24 Sep 2021  #7653

What is the pro-lockdown argument?

It is wait till mid october till we reach 70 percent vaxxed not to have our medical system overwhelmed like in many areas in yankee land. then it's over. Plus the overwhelming majority support the policies. therefore the pro lockdown argument is a democratic one.

johnny reb
24 Sep 2021  #7654

everyone says

So YOUR source is, "everyone says" and mine are several International News Media's WITH VIDEO'S !
Over ten of them that you claim are all lying. LOL
I suppose the video's are all lying too. LOL
It sure looks like more than 2,000 people dunnit.

you really are stupid.

I have several news sources to back up my claims and you have "everyone says" for your single source to your claim.
Please don't try to pi/ss on my leg and tell me it is raining, Bush Boy.
You have dug your hole deep enough.

amiga500
24 Sep 2021  #7655

China bought the Australian government

Your knowlege of australia is as ignorant as your understanding of the future of nation states. we are in a trade war with china. We have increased our alliance with USA and UK to get nuclear powered submarines, which a Chinese official threatened to nuke us for. We recently helped form the Quad alliance, (United States, India, Japan and Australia ) to pushback against china in the indo pacific.

Tlum
24 Sep 2021  #7656

I hope people will finally connect the dots. It cannot be any clearer.

Today's news about booster shot recommendations:

"COVID vaccine booster shots for Americans 65 and older, residents of nursing homes, and adults aged 18 to 64 with underlying health conditions."

From Britannica about the Nazi genocide program:

"T4 Program, also called T4 Euthanasia Program, 1940 Nazi German effort-framed as an euthanasia program-to kill incurably ill, physically or mentally disabled, emotionally distraught, and elderly people."

britannica.com/event/T4-Program

amiga500
24 Sep 2021  #7657

It sure looks like more than 2,000 people dunnit.

How would you know? Have you ever been to a protest?

johnny reb
24 Sep 2021  #7658

Yes I have, how about you ?
I also watched the news video's of the 20,000 blocking the Melbourne Highway that you claim is fake news. LOL

We have increased our alliance with USA and UK to get nuclear powered submarines,

True, however, they will not be allowed to carry nuclear weapons.

mafketis
24 Sep 2021  #7659

wait till mid october till we reach 70 percent vaxxed not to have our medical system overwhelmed

No country has had its system 'overwhelmed' the pattern has been pretty clear... 6 to 8 weeks of growth then plateau and then fall. Australian policy still seems to believe in the idea of exponential growth (which hasn't happened anywhere).

And.... for a couple of weeks after shots people are _more_ vulnerable (so they do need to isolate if possible though somehow this never gets mentioned) so a by-product of all big vax campaigns is another wave... (in Poland the vax wave was the worst).

And 70 % is an arbitrary number.

amiga500
24 Sep 2021  #7660

No country has had its system 'overwhelmed'

Alaska, overwhelmed by COVID-19 patients, adopts crisis standards for hospitals
"ANCHORAGE, Alaska (Reuters) - Alaska, which led most U.S. states in coronavirus vaccinations months ago, took the drastic step on Wednesday of imposing crisis-care standards for its entire hospital system, declaring that a crushing surge in COVID-19 patients has forced rationing of strained medical resources."

news.yahoo.com/alaska-overwhelmed-covid-19-patients-021228235.html Only half of alaskans are vaxxed.

Covid-19: US hospitals are overwhelmed as cases rise at "alarming rate"
""There was an average of over 15 000 daily adult intensive care unit (ICU) covid-19 patients, an increase of 33% from just the week prior. Twenty states and DC have ICU occupancy rates of 75% or more, with 11 states over 80% or more . . . Their resources-human, infrastructure, and financials-are being stretched to the brink."

bmj.com/content/374/bmj.n2092

I guess our definitions of overwhelmed differ, it's all fine in mafketis clownworld people die in ambulances, staff are exhausted, beds are running out and people die of other diseases and lack of surgery because hospitals are filled with those that chose not to get vaccinated. In australia we have avoided that, thanks for many polices, including localised lockdowns. we are learning from the mistakes of americans , we wait till 70-80 percent vaxxed.

Yes I have, how about you ?

which one? tea party protests against obama?

johnny reb
24 Sep 2021  #7661

Have you ever been to a protest?

Yes I have, how about you ?

(Crickets)
Now lets get back On - Topic, shall we ?

mafketis
24 Sep 2021  #7662

Covid-19: US hospitals are overwhelmed

Many false stories have been written. I know someone in Quebec who had to go to a 'completely overwhelmed' hospital.... that was virtually empty. Lots of other examples. So I don't take those stories at face value. I'd like to see the official numbers.

And by way of contrast...

unherd.com/thepost/anders-tegnell-sweden-won-the-argument-on-covid/

Novichok
24 Sep 2021  #7663

So I don't take those stories at face value.

You are too subtle. These bastards lie always. 24/7/365. Whatever they say, add "not" to it. Like: completely not overwhelmed.
This is one positive outcome of the covid episode: more cynics like me.

mafketis
24 Sep 2021  #7664

And meanwhile Australia's descent into violent authoritarianism continues apace...

twitter.com/KingKen09964842/status/1441356951653216257

Australian hearts must be swelling with pride at how the police brutalize civilians....

Never sell your country to China...

amiga500
24 Sep 2021  #7665

Many false stories have been written.

It's literally a legal document by Alaskas Health Commisioner, saying they have no responsiblity to provide normal care anymore
"The new document limits liability faced by providers for crisis-level medical care in all Alaska hospitals.
Moreover, it acknowledges the realities of rationed care statewide, with scarce medical supplies and staff prioritized in a way that denies normal levels of care to some patients for the sake of others, depending on how sick they are and their chances for recovery.. Some critically ill patients, for example, have had to be treated outside intensive care units where they would typically be admitted, Zink said."Care has shifted in Alaska's hospitals. The same standard of care that was previously there is no longer able to be given on a regular basis. This has been happening for weeks," Zink told reporters."

Is it the media are making up legal documents? . Is the health commissioner and chief doctor lying for vaccine profits to bring austerity by the mega rich?

You are really sinking to konfa dumb levels of conspiracy thinking here, But considering your views that no one thinks nation states will not exist, and PiS is actually aligned with Putin, shows you really are that dumb.

Novichok
25 Sep 2021  #7666

Went to LA Fitness today. 50% wear them. 100% don't give a sh*it about the 50% that don't.

Bratwurst Boy
25 Sep 2021  #7667

...plus the rest which avoids gatherings now in the first place, knowing that especially in a fitness-studios with many people huffing and puffing close together is potentially detrimental to your health....just saying! :)

mafketis
25 Sep 2021  #7668

a legal document by Alaskas Health Commisioner

From the official state numbers for today: covid19.alaska.gov/

217 hospitalized people test positive for covid

21 % of all hospitalizations are for covid

41 people are on respirators...

Total population of state: under 800,000 (a bit over 1/3 in a single city - Anchorage)

experience.arcgis.com/experience/f21f964c046c400baad4ad78e06ceb25/

your views that no one thinks nation states will not exist

that makes no sense, please rewrite it so that I may respond.

PiS is actually aligned with Putin

Not what I've written. I (and some others) think that PiS policies (of unrestrained hostility to its two largest allies) will ultimately estrange Poland from the west and drive it to the Russian sphere of influence.

amiga500
25 Sep 2021  #7669

Total population of state: under 800,000 (a bit over 1/3 in a single city - Anchorage)

It does not matter what the total population is . hospital capacity esp ICU is what matters. if ICU capacity was at say 90 percent before covid and you have 20 percent of people in hospital with covid now, then the hospitals are overwhelmed. what happens if someone has a heart attack or car crash and ICU is full because of unvaxxed idiots? If 80 percent were vaxxed instead of 50 then the hospitals would not be overwhelmed. (all hypthetical numbers of course)

of unrestrained hostility to its two largest allies

Unrestrained hostility would be hanging yanks in the streets, that is typical PO hyperbole. like saying america denying visa free for poles for decades was unrestrained hostility. Poland is buying nuclear reactors from the americans.

australia just cancelled an 80 billion dollar submarine contract from the french without even telling them 30 min before the media conference with the yanks and the brits. And you think some moves about a minor tv station that didin't even go anywhere yet are a big deal? lolzo

Anti mask/Anti Lockdown scum attack family at park in Melbourne. This is why the virus deniers don't have any support and can only manage 100 people at their protests after a peak of 2000 (which was due to construction union infighting)

""They were trying to rip our masks off telling us we were afraid of a cold ... and trying to cough on us," she said."
9news.com.au/national/family-picnicking-in-melbourne-park-allegedly-attacked-blackburn-north/0f4b6344-0f4a-4b81-b5d0-6dc7942d2fdd

mafketis
25 Sep 2021  #7670

Day 52 (or 42*) of the fourth wave...

percent of positive test results: 2.17 % of 42,352 tests... still over 2 per cent... how high will it go? There was one report that the rate of increase was already slowing

Also, apparently the flu and sinus infections are back... which is a good sign since both seemed to disappear last year....

hospitalization: +54 = 1312

percentage of positive tests to hospital admissions:

day 52: 5.9 %
day 51: 6.0 %
day 50: 3.1 %
day 49: 4.2 %
day 48: 10.1 %
day 47: 13.7 %
day 46: 7.4 %
day 45: 8.6 %
day 44: 4.6 %
day 43: 8.0 %

intensive care: +9 to 147

deaths: 20 (13 with comorbidities)

from the previous day**: seven day moving average of daily deaths : 11 (+1)

Currently infected (how ever they happen to calculate that....) some bogus number over 165,000.... (which kind of throws a lot of the other numbers into doubt as well...)

*the minister of health first announced the fourth wave for the second half of august but jumped the gun 10 days earlier saying it had already begun)

**the source I use is a day behind and I'm too lazy to calculate on my own

Tacitus
25 Sep 2021  #7671

plus the rest which avoids gatherings now in the first place

I must admit, fitness studios kinda lost their appeal to me now because of thst. Plus doing sit ups and push ups at home and jogging is much cheaper ;)

Bratwurst Boy
25 Sep 2021  #7672

The Berlin-Marathon tomorrow sunday only with masks for all during start and finish.....now that can't be fun!

Ironside
25 Sep 2021  #7673

BB has Antifa torched few cars near you lately?

johnny reb
25 Sep 2021  #7674

Rich is right, biden has been lying to us about the vaccines to divide the country.
Listen to this if you want the FACTS on Covid.
(Unblock the mute by clicking on it)

msn.com/en-us/news/politics/clay-travis-biden-lying-to-america-about-vaccines/vi-AAONhZm?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=U531

Novichok
25 Sep 2021  #7675

now that can't be fun!

BB, it is my goal to make you like me before my time is up.
Fun? It's insanity!!!

I must admit, fitness studios kinda lost their appeal

Gyms are great for both muscles and morale. I see a lot of guys who, like me, are saying "fu*ck that, I am not scared". I was never closer than 10 feet and only for a moment.

My favorite line: "Thank you for being sane. I mean the mask". The other one is "Thanks for not giving me sh*it about the mask". The last time I said it was after I got a haircut.

Tacitus
25 Sep 2021  #7676

Well, your posts do explain why USA still experiences so many Covid cases.

johnny reb
25 Sep 2021  #7677

We have twice as many covid cases as you do true but we have four times more people than you do so in actuality you have twice as many cases as we do proportionately.

Why do you have so many ?

Novichok
25 Sep 2021  #7678

My mask problem is solved: I am exempt. That according to the latest county order (I carry it with me) that makes it so:

Any individual aged two and older and able to medically tolerate a mask shall be required to wear a mask when indoors in a public place, regardless of vaccination status.

I am one and a half (I just look old) and I have six health conditions - each worse than the next - including the fear of suffocation or swallowing the damn thing. Also, heart, lungs, and two cancers. Plus four ER visits with chest pains in the last two years.

Still want me to wear that mask or see my lawyer first?

That should do it.

Bratwurst Boy
26 Sep 2021  #7679

BB has Antifa torched few cars near you lately?

Nope....that happen's more likely in some places in West-Berlin, where the Anarchos live since decades...

BB, it is my goal to make you like me before my time is up.

I sincerely hope we both still have loooooootsa time for that!

Korvinus
26 Sep 2021  #7680

newsrescue.com/japan-magnetism-withdraws-1-6m-doses-moderna-for-possible-contamination-with-substance-that-reacts-to-magnets/
theburningplatform.com/2021/08/27/japan-suspects-contaminant-in-moderna-vaccines-is-metallic-reacts-to-magnets/

Well, the Japanese did find magnetic stuff inside the Moderna vaxx. Supposedly it was just contamination (from a production site in Spain).
Since nobody else seems to be testing anything, who knows how many people are being injected with similar "contamination".

First time they found 1.6 million "accidents". Then again they found 1 million "accidents". Perhaps I'm more sceptical than most, but 2.6 million doses found with that much "contamination" sounds fishy to me.

thecovidworld.com/


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