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Coronavirus in Poland



Tacitus
26 Sep 2021  #7681

We have twice as many covid cases as you do

It seems that either mine or your numbers are off.

Germany has an average of 8k new infections each day.

graphics.reuters.com/world-coronavirus-tracker-and-maps/countries-and-territories/germany/

The USA has 120k daily new infections, which is roughly 4 times per citizen than what Germany experiences.

graphics.reuters.com/world-coronavirus-tracker-and-maps/countries-and-territories/united-states/

The difference in the amounts of deaths is even greater.

The situation is certainly far from perfect in Germany, where we have fallen behind in the vaccination rate behind other European countries, though we are still ahead of the USA.

johnny reb
26 Sep 2021  #7682

The USA has much much bigger cities with huge population compared to Germ plus add the millions of illegal unvaccinated immigrants coming accross our Southern border every month it really is no surprise.

You are comparing apples to oranges.

Novichok
26 Sep 2021  #7683

The USA has 120k daily new infections,

The best would be 330 million infections on Day 1 of the "pandemic". In two weeks, it would be over and life back to normal. It's the slow and protracted nature of this sh*it with no end in sight that is killing the economy and the spirits.

What would you prefer for your wife - instant death in a car accident or years of pain and shrivelling from cancer?

Tacitus
26 Sep 2021  #7684

You are comparing apples to oranges.

Germany is more densely populated and we have also our number of refugees and migrants entering Germany. Thus that is hardly an explanation for the USA's bad performance. Not to mention that states like Alaska that have serious problems are hardly densely populated or full of illegal migrants.

The best would be 330 million infections on Day 1 of the "pandemic"

You do not seem to realize a) the catastrophic consequences of an overwhelmed health system and b) that being infected does not protect you forever. Covid is there to stay, it would however cease being a serious problem if everyone got vaccinated and wore masks when necessary.

johnny reb
26 Sep 2021  #7685

Germany is more densely populated

Right on as Berlin has a population of 3.5 million compared to New York with 19.5 million.
Now I get it and you win. Hoot !

Novichok
26 Sep 2021  #7686

number of refugees and migrants entering Germany.

Then you are just an outline on the map, not a sovereign country.

There is a simple rule in life to follow: if you are going to inflict pain, do it quickly. Plus, the health system does not save lives. It just postpones death. Survival of society and tribes trumps all else and there is only so much we can spend on each person to live a year longer.

According to the CDC, only 6% of the reported covid deaths were without comorbidities. That translates into 40,000 since the start of the "pandemic". For reference, 2,700,000 die every year in the US.

Here is the price tag for those life saving lockdowns - a totally avoidable and unproductive bs the covid Gestapo did to flex their Gestapo muscles and to show that they did "something". From dailymail.com:

The great hulking beast of inflation is growling again - setting the poor against the rich, and the young against the old, writes HAMISH MCRAE

To all those who loved lockdowns and printing money: I hope it will hurt. A lot.

PolAmKrakow
26 Sep 2021  #7687

@johnny reb
NYC has 8 million. Compare city to city, not city to state.

Tacitus
26 Sep 2021  #7688

New York with 19.5 million.

We are not comparing New York vs Berlin but Germany vs the USA though. The state of Texas alone is twice Germany's size yet has less than half of Germany's population.

Novichok
26 Sep 2021  #7689

Rates of infection are total crap since they are based only on those who had to be tested, not the entire population. The method and its sensitivity is another matter and just as critical to the outcomes. Even the rates of hospitalization and deaths are impossible to compare - country to country - since the criteria of admissions and coding are different.

About the only number that makes any sense is the positivity - still subject to the method used locally.

johnny reb
26 Sep 2021  #7690

NYC has 8 million. Compare city to city, not city to state.

I stand corrected PolAm.
I was in the middle of my shower before church and was multi tasking.
Still over twice as many people live in New York compared to Berlin.

Rates of infection are total crap

Exactly as maybe Germany isn't testing as many people as the U.S. is.

mafketis
26 Sep 2021  #7691

Day 53 (or 43*) of the fourth wave...

percent of positive test results: 2.22 % of 29,019 tests... still over 2 per cent... how high will it go? There was one report that the rate of increase was already slowing

hospitalization: +31 = 1343

percentage of positive tests to hospital admissions:

day 53: 4.3 %
day 52: 5.9 %
day 51: 6.0 %
day 50: 3.1 %
day 49: 4.2 %
day 48: 10.1 %
day 47: 13.7 %
day 46: 7.4 %
day 45: 8.6 %
day 44: 4.6 %

intensive care: +1 to 148

deaths: 1 ( with comorbidities)

from the previous day**: seven day moving average of daily deaths : 12 (+1)

Currently infected (how ever they happen to calculate that....) some bogus number over 166,000.... (which kind of throws a lot of the other numbers into doubt as well...)

*the minister of health first announced the fourth wave for the second half of august but jumped the gun 10 days earlier saying it had already begun)

**the source I use is a day behind and I'm too lazy to calculate on my own

johnny reb
26 Sep 2021  #7692

Day 53,021
Testing remains the same and we are now on our 731st booster shot.
The government claims there is help on the way with a new experimental vaccine.

The source I use is ten years ahead and I have already died of old age on my own.

johnny reb
27 Sep 2021  #7693

The CEO of the pharmaceutical giant Pfizer (from CEO to scientist) says that normal life will return within a year, but not for those who don't have "REGULAR" COVID-19 vaccinations.

During an appearance on ABC This Week, Albert Bourla was asked about when he foresaw the end of the pandemic.
"Within a year, I think we will be able to come back to normal life," said Bourla, although he made it very clear that this statement only applies to those who are prepared to take regular coronavirus booster shots.

My question is: "How many boosters and for how long ?"
(Follow the $)

And if you refuse the vaccine you can lose your job without any compensation, not be able to fly on a commercial airline, join the military or enter a hospital. :-/

Novichok
27 Sep 2021  #7694

deaths: 1 ( with comorbidities)

Zero!!! Nobody died!!!

johnny reb
27 Sep 2021  #7695

Nope but someone is making a boat load of money off this "pandemic".

mafketis
27 Sep 2021  #7696

Day 54 (or 44*) of the fourth wave...

Very late today I'm traveling abroad for work - (a couple of borders crossed by train - no checks....)

percent of positive test results: 1.97 % of 21,347 tests... back below 2 per cent... for how long? There weren't many tests though which makes the percentages bob up and down a bit...

hospitalization: +41 = 1384

percentage of positive tests to hospital admissions:

day 54: 9.7 % a lower percentage than a week ago - we'll see if that stays up or goes down tomorrow
day 53: 4.3 %
day 52: 5.9 %
day 51: 6.0 %
day 50: 3.1 %
day 49: 4.2 %
day 48: 10.1 %
day 47: 13.7 %

intensive care: +5 to 153

deaths: 0

from the previous day**: seven day moving average of daily deaths : 12 (no change)

Currently infected (how ever they happen to calculate that....) some bogus number over 166,000.... (which kind of throws a lot of the other numbers into doubt as well...)

*the minister of health first announced the fourth wave for the second half of august but jumped the gun 10 days earlier saying it had already begun)

**the source I use is a day behind and I'm too lazy to calculate on my own

Dirk diggler
27 Sep 2021  #7697

Nope but someone is making a boat load of money off this "pandemic".

Yup, and what a "cohencidence" that the tiny hat tribe is so overrepresented in the executive positions at J&J, Pfizer, Moderna, and AstraZenaca

Bratwurst Boy
28 Sep 2021  #7698

The "pill against Covid" is coming!

Pfizer, Merck launch new trials of oral COVID-19 drugs

reuters.com/business/healthcare-pharmaceuticals/pfizer-starts-dosing-patients-oral-covid-19-drug-trial-2021-09-01/

Pfizer Inc (PFE.N) and Merck & Co Inc (MRK.N) announced on Wednesday new trials of their experimental oral antiviral drugs for COVID-19 as the race to develop an easy-to-administer treatment for the potentially fatal illness heats up.

Pfizer said its latest mid-to-late-stage trial will enroll 1,140 non-hospitalized adults diagnosed with coronavirus infection who are not at risk of severe illness. Patients in the trial will be given Pfizer's pill, known as PF-07321332, and a low dose of ritonavir, an older medication widely used in combination treatments for HIV infection.

Pfizer's drug is designed to block the activity of a key enzyme that is needed for the coronavirus to multiply.....


I guess me and my trusted mask will stay closely aquainted for 2022 still....but then the danger should be mainly over because of one super-pill or the other....take care all till then!

Novichok
28 Sep 2021  #7699

The "pill against Covid" is coming!

Means sh*it to the Covid Gestapo. A year ago, somebody like you said "vaccine against Covid is coming".

So what has changed after we took it?

Not a damn thing that I would notice. Masks are still on - vaccinated or not, distancing, waves, lockdowns, riots, shortages,... you know the rest.

Bratwurst Boy
28 Sep 2021  #7700

No.....with a real cure and/or a pill against I won't wear a mask either, who would? It will be over!

Tlum
28 Sep 2021  #7701

Don't get fooled again, a "pill" is in fact the same s*it as the vaccine (or maybe even worse):

"Israeli COVID vaccine in pill form to start clinical trial in Tel Aviv"

timesofisrael.com/israeli-covid-vaccine-in-pill-form-to-start-clinical-trial-in-tel-aviv/

johnny reb
28 Sep 2021  #7702

Protests have finally erupted in Israel as it has slowly dawned on people there that the goalposts for vaccine passports keep being shifted by the government.

It is now expected to be announced that at least FOUR vaccinations will be needed to be considered 'fully vaccinated' and able to engage in society.

Bratwurst Boy
28 Sep 2021  #7703

In Germany one third (32,3%) doesn't even has it's first.....(and many don't plan to)....obedient Germans are a thing of the past, I believe...

zdf.de/nachrichten/politik/corona-impfung-daten-100.html

mafketis
28 Sep 2021  #7704

Day 55 (or 45*) of the fourth wave...

Late again today, still abroad for work - (a couple of borders crossed by train - no checks....)

percent of positive test results: 2.08 % of 46,861 tests... back over 2 per cent... f

hospitalization: +145 = 1529 big jump, post weekend record keeping catching up

percentage of positive tests to hospital admissions:

day 55: 14.9 % higher than last week but the sunday-monday average isn't that higher from a week ago
day 54: 9.7 %
day 53: 4.3 %
day 52: 5.9 %
day 51: 6.0 %
day 50: 3.1 %
day 49: 4.2 %
day 48: 10.1 %
day 47: 13.7 %

intensive care: +15 to 168

deaths: 29 (27 with comorbidities)

from the previous day**: seven day moving average of daily deaths : 12 (no change)

Currently infected (how ever they happen to calculate that....) some bogus number over 166,000.... (which kind of throws a lot of the other numbers into doubt as well...)

*the minister of health first announced the fourth wave for the second half of august but jumped the gun 10 days earlier saying it had already begun)

**the source I use is a day behind and I'm too lazy to calculate on my own

Novichok
28 Sep 2021  #7705

As proof of how well vaccines and masks work...

Singapore reports 2,236 COVID-19 cases, its highest ever single-day rise

Sept 28 (Reuters) - Singapore's health ministry reported 2,236 new COVID-19 cases on Tuesday, the highest since the beginning of the pandemic.

A recent rise in cases after the relaxation of some COVID-19 measures has prompted Singapore to pause further reopening. More than 80% of its population has been vaccinated against COVID-19.


Considering that Asians like obedience above all else and that even fetuses are required to wear masks to be allowed out, that outcome is strange indeed.

deaths: 29 (27 with comorbidities)

29-27=2

Korvinus
29 Sep 2021  #7706

Pfizer's pill, known as PF-07321332

The pills are basically a tweaked ivermectin, so it can be copyrighted by pfizer.

PolAmKrakow
29 Sep 2021  #7707

@Korvinus
Completely incorrect. The pill is a version of the current jab with an altered formula. If you knnew anything about copyrights you would know that chemical formula's are not copyright protected, they are patented, and the commercial names are trademark protected.

mafketis
29 Sep 2021  #7708

Day 55 (or 45*) of the fourth wave...

Early today as I have a couple of international trains to catch...

percent of positive test results: 2.69 % of 45,858 tests..

hospitalization: +37 = 1566 after yesterday's big jump back to previous lower numbers..

percentage of positive tests to hospital admissions:

day 56: 3.0 % lower than a week ago
day 55: 14.9 %
day 54: 9.7 %
day 53: 4.3 %
day 52: 5.9 %
day 51: 6.0 %
day 50: 3.1 %
day 49: 4.2 %
day 48: 10.1 %
day 47: 13.7 %

intensive care: +6 to 174

deaths: 22 (16 with comorbidities)

from the previous day**: seven day moving average of daily deaths : 14 (+ 2)

Currently infected (how ever they happen to calculate that....) some bogus number over 168,000.... (which kind of throws a lot of the other numbers into doubt as well...)

*the minister of health first announced the fourth wave for the second half of august but jumped the gun 10 days earlier saying it had already begun)

**the source I use is a day behind and I'm too lazy to calculate on my own

jon357
29 Sep 2021  #7709

intensive care: +6 to 174

Hopefully that number will decrease.

You mentioned yesterday that there wasn't any hassle at borders; that's good to hear. On Monday, I flew back (via Vienna) and there was no hassle at all at Okęcie. The border guard just wanted to see my passport/maskless face, and barely glanced at the NHS Covid Pass. I don't think she looked at all at the locator form. In Vienna they were a bit stricter, however it was after all an external Schengen border.

Early today as I have a couple of international trains to catch...

Enjoy! Do they have full restaurant cars back now? That's always the nicest part of international train travel for me. Just pre-Covid I travelled Eindhoven-Warsaw by train and enjoyed it (in the Dortmund-Berlin train they had venison on the menu). This time I'd planned to return by plane to Berlin and to Warsaw a day later by train (my preferred route), however the Polish government's Covid rules differ (acc'd to the border guard website) for land border arrivals and I'd have apparently had to get a PCR test, just an extra layer of hassle.

johnny reb
29 Sep 2021  #7710

Robert W. Malone, a scientist well known for inventing mRNA vaccines and RNA as a drug shared a peer reviewed scientific study that concluded that a COVID-19 inoculation in children is more dangerous for them than the virus itself.

The report begins by discussing various stats in the pandemic, including how many people in the United States reportedly died from the disease, how many have been inoculated, and how many people have been concluded dead by the CDC's VARES (Vaccine Adverse Events Reporting System) following the shot.

It was also pointed out that VARES is very flawed, with many estimates indicating that they only report only 1% of actual vaccine/inoculation deaths.


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