Coronavirus in Poland

@Dirk diggler
mRNA is not gene therapy. J & J is a traditional vaccine. mRNA vaccine development has been ongoing for more than 20 years.

Normal drug trials take far too long and the US has long complained about the process.

An article from another far right nutshop press release isn't going to convince anyone.

Yes it is.

Gene Therapy defition: Gene therapy is a medical field which focuses on the genetic modification of cells to produce a therapeutic effect or the treatment of disease by repairing or reconstructing defective genetic material.

That's EXACTLY what mrna vaccines do - they genetically modify your cells to produce proteins.

J&J is the only vaccine that uses the "traditional" vector route by using a deactivated/weakened virus just like the vaccines that children receive. The moderna and pfizer vaccines do not use this method.


So a website writing about hospitals and medicine is a "far right nutshop press" riiiighhtt. And I guess the source they're quoting science.org is as far right as Der Strurmer and the Ran Balicer, CIO at Clalit Health Services, Israel's largest health maintenance organization is literally Hitler...

science.org/news/2021/08/grim-warning-israel-vaccination-blunts-does-not-defeat-delta

Whatever be a sheep - go make the pharma tiny hat tribe some more shekels and then cry if you have an adverse reaction years down the line with no legal recourse.

Meanwhile, I'll take my 99.97% survival rate odds and never have to worry about how some rushed gene therapy is going to affect me years down the line. Already people are complaining about blood clots, women complaining about it messing with their menstrual cycle, not to mention all the people that died from it that were otherwise young and healthy.

Excellent post Dirk, with excellent sources.
Why don't these Liberals that voted for biden ever post their sources ?
The correct answer is because their sources are their personal opinions that they have been brainwashed with by the government controlled drive by medias.


REALLY ? More B.S.
I suggest you google Rand Paul, ' grilling Faucii'.
Dumbest fox in the forest you mean.
Remember when Rand Paul caught Faucci in the bold faced lie about funding the labs in China ?
Google it for yourself
So in short, your remark about Rand Paul being the dumbest member of the Senate is simply one of your diminishing personal fabrications.
I would have to give that honor to Al Franken or Elizabeth Warren. Hoot !

@Dirk diggler
mNra is NOT gene therapy. reuters.com/article/factcheck-covid-mrna-gene/fact-check-mrna-vaccines-are-distinct-from-gene-therapy-which-alters-recipients-genes-idUSL1N2PH16N Get a grip on your fake new BS. Talk to real scientists.

No one has ever said the vaccine defeats the virus except some far left freaks, and now you are one of the far right freaks who post more fake news than the lefties do.

Rand Paul is borderline ret@***d. Fauci is also the same kind of far left freak. All both of you do is point out craziness from your own or the other side. All the BS political views mean nothing. Rand Paul is a stunt artist who has done absllutely nothing of political importance in his whole career. A leach on the government payroll and nothing more.

The FACT is, there is a virus. Vaccines are keeping people from dying for the most part which is all they were supposed to do. People dont want them, dont get them. The majority of us dont care if unvaccinated die because of their choice. The majority of us also dont care is some vaccinated die because those are the risks.

There is no genetic altering going on. Anyone dumb enough to believe that should be locked up for mental health reasons.

As mRNA is genetic material, mRNA vaccines can be looked at as a genetic-based therapy

Right from the government:
pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33772572/

What's the title?

Development of COVID-19 vaccines utilizing gene therapy technology

Enough said.


And yet still people end up dying from the covid vaccine, getting blood clots, or ending up in the hospital with severe covid complications anyway.... yeah, real "safe and effective"

You may not be scared of side effects like blod clots, impotence, but those who are healthy, in shape, young, or otherwise aren't soy boy cucks are and thus don't mind taking the risk of being not vaccinated against something with a 99.97% survival rate.


Like Dr. Flip-Flop Fauci...

By the way, do people in European countries have religious/personal exemptions for vaccine mandates? I haven't heard of any such thing in countries like Italy where they're basically forcing every working adult to receive this vaxx.

@Dirk diggler
And again you turn one sentence into a complete lie.

"Gene therapy, in the classical sense, involves making deliberate changes to a patient's DNA in order to treat or cure them. mRNA vaccines will not enter a cell's nucleus that houses your DNA genome. There is zero risk of these vaccines integrating into our own genome or altering our genetic makeup."

Stop cutting and pasting until you actually read the article.

People die from the vaccine, so what. They die from COVID, again so what. Take your chances. Do what you want, but dont talk some political heroism BS about either side. All the right and left BS is just that, BS.

There is no vaccine mandate in Europe. Again, you know nothing. People are encouraged, but no one can be forced. Really can you be this stupid or are you an actor?

If I build a system using microwave technology, that doesnt mean I built a microwave. Using gene therapy technology is not making a gene therapy. Unbelievable how you and other make $4iT up.

Except that it is literally designed to force your cells into creating certain proteins... if it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck...


I will. A 99.97% chance.... 99.97/100 odds... Man if only casinos offered those kind of odds...


Yes there is. Europe for one is mandating every worker get vaccinated.

reuters.com/world/europe/italy-readies-law-make-covid-health-pass-mandatory-all-workers-2021-09-16/

And yes, several countries are making vaccines MANDATORY for workers in certain sectors. In Italy it's all workers, in England it's all healthcare workers.... Basically, it's take the rushed through experimental gene therapy or lose your livelihood...

So much for freedom of choice, informed consent, or even the feminazis favorite line "my body my choice"

reuters.com/world/countries-make-covid-19-vaccines-mandatory-2021-07-13/

These has been found in a vaccine. It is new finding, I am not sure what to think about it. It does seem absurd at first.But I try to keep an open mind.

No they 'hasn't'.

Prove it.

@Dirk diggler
Italy is not representative of all of Europe. In case you failed geography, or dont understand, Europe is made up of many countries who each have their own rules and laws. Again, you have no reading comprehension.

It is people like you who have no sense, looking for conspiracy theories and lying who over ran congress a year ago. Now all those idiots are going to jail.

Trump complained about fake news, and though most of his complaints were not fact based, there was definitely a bias against him. All this anti vax stuff about nanotubes and other life forms, gene therapy and altering DNA is the FAKE NEWS. Not one real intelligent person other than someone trying to make a name for himself through the fake news, believes any of this. Not one scientific, peer reviewed report of any of this. Fringe fanatic media and nothing more.

Day 63 (or 53*) of the fourth wave...

percent of positive test results: 4.77% of 43,668 tests..

hospitalization: +150= 2013

percentage of positive tests to hospital admissions: not sure if I'll keep this up... it isn't indicating much....

day 63: 2.4 % (lower than a week ago)
day 62: 8.9 %
day 61: 17.8 %
day 60: 4.1 %
day 59: 0.0 %
day 58: 5.4 %
day 57: 4.0 %
day 56: 3.0 %
day 55: 14.9 %
day 54: 9.7 %

intensive care: -5 = 190

deaths: 33 (30 with comorbidities)

from the previous day**: seven day moving average of daily deaths : 20 (+ 2)

Currently infected (how ever they happen to calculate that....) some bogus number over 173,000.... (which kind of throws a lot of the other numbers into doubt as well...)

*the minister of health first announced the fourth wave for the second half of august but jumped the gun 10 days earlier saying it had already begun)

**the source I use is a day behind and I'm too lazy to calculate on my own

Twitter censored the obituary of a mother whose family said she died of Covid vaccine complications.
An obituary in the Oregon Live detailed how Jessica Berg Wilson, an "exceptionally healthy and vibrant 37 year old young mother with no underlying health conditions" passed away from COVID vaccine induced Thrombotic Thrombocytopenia, The Federalist reports.

Per the obituary, Wilson was a devoted wife and mother but in the last few weeks of her life "the world turned dark with heavy handed vaccine mandates."

"Local and state governments were determined to strip away her right to consult her wisdom and enjoy her freedom.
She had been vehemently opposed to taking the vaccine, knowing she was in good health and of a young age and thus not at risk for serious illness.

In her mind, the known and unknown risks of the unproven vaccine were more of a threat," the obituary read.
"But slowly, day by day, her freedom to choose was stripped away."
What happened to, "My body, my choice ?"

The geographical spread of the cases is important - in some countries like Romania the numbers have skyrocketed and only 30 percent of people are vaccinated - that could well happen in Eastern Poland, unfortunately it's the heart of PiS country so I'm sure they will find a way to blame it on Tusk or Angela Merkel

As Waldemar Kraska of PiS said "The next wave of the pandemic will be among those who will not vaccinate".

False. Masks work so there will not be any more waves. Even the current one is just propaganda.

That is a safe bet as half the people in the hospitals now have been fully vaccinated so it really makes no difference does it.

We are all going to catch it sooner or later so lets get it over with since there is such a small chance of dying from it.

This Control Trip of "take the vaccination or else" has people fed up.

@johnny reb
Its not a safe bet that more and a few percent are breakthrough cases. Stop guessing its just nonsense.

That bit is not so good.

And of course we're approaching a special time of year.

@PolAm


It's not guessing, I have credible sources to back my guessing up and you have yet to post any credible sources to your self opinionated remarks.

How many people do you 'guess' will die from the common flu this winter PolAm ?
How many from car accidents because of drunk drivers ?
Should all alcoholics be forces to vaccinate for over drinking to avoid these high number of traffic deaths ?

It's not that terrible and there are no really precautions to take anymore. Everyone who wants it has access to the vaccine(s). NPIs are essentially worthless.

Nothing left now except let 'er rip and remember it comes in waves.... a special gift to the rest of the world for giving China a seat at the decision makers' table.

I'm not going to get concerned until hospitalizations pass 10,000 and the daily average death toll tops 200...

My doctor here says much the same, that it's something we have to live with.

At least we have good and safe vaccines.

Don't forget those good and safe face masks too.

This is one of the better public-sector responses I've seen:


gov.pl/web/coronavirus/questions-and-answers

...and cull the herd of those who felt they are made of stainless steel.


...except two: against stupidy and blind obedience.

I'm not into the vaccine coercion - people can make their own decisions.

But I trust it works and I'm not locking down again to help the unvaccinated.

...and I don't wear masks. Amazingly nobody gives a damn anymore. Even in drugstores and hospitals. I mean in Illinois, not Russia.

Pfizer stock is doing really well...It gained 0.63% in three years! That's 0.21% per year!

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@johnny reb
I dont guess, and I dont care how many die from what ever reasons. There is not one single credible news report saying vaccinated people are the majority of infections. Every credible report is that there are few breakthrough cases and the overwhelming majority infected are un vaccinated. You have ot posted on source saying the opposite.

Try this it works google.com/search?q=covid+unvaccinated+hospital

And I never said they were.
Most people don't even know that they are infected or if they do it is no worse then the three day flu and definitely most don't end up in the hospital and rarely do any of them without underlying causes die.

I have had Covid which protects me 27 times more naturally than being fully vaccinated does so why do they insist on poking me with an experimental vaccine that could possibly make me go blind in a year or two or worse yet, start going dumb like the other people who have been vaccinated.