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Coronavirus in Poland



Korvinus
6 Oct 2021  #7861

globalresearch.ca/stop-the-covid-holocaust-open-letter/5755902

How can we lose now?

johnny reb
6 Oct 2021  #7862

In just four months, the COVID-19 vaccines have killed more people than all available vaccines combined from mid-1997 until the end of 2013-a period of 15.5 years. And people affected worst are between 18 and 64 years old - the group which was not in the Covid statistics.

Why is this not in the drive by media's news ?

Korvinus
6 Oct 2021  #7863

That is correct. Take a look at this paper:

ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4599698/

You'll see that deaths after "normal" vaccines are incredibly uncommon. For example, the swine flue vaccine from 1976 caused 53 deaths in total with about 45 million people vaccinated and it was aborted due to this high death count. In case of the measles, mumps, and rubella (MMR) vaccine there is not even a single death. Now contrast that with the 15,937 entires for deaths after COVID vaccination in VAERS and do the math.

medalerts.org/vaersdb/findfield.php?TABLE=ON&GROUP1=AGE&EVENTS=ON&VAX=COVID19&DIED=Yes

amiga500
7 Oct 2021  #7864

As Sam Harris said, even if that figure is correct (and is open to doubt since VAERS is an open system) 15k people have died from the vaccine out of 398 million vaccine doses given. compare that to the 700 hundred thousand deaths from the coronavirus. Therefore the vaccine is benefical and needed to reduce deaths.

Joker
7 Oct 2021  #7865

The Wuhan flus is the worlds first "smart" virus. It only appears when and where the Democrats need it too.

Novichok
7 Oct 2021  #7866

Ive had my 2 shots, so I dont worry about it and dont see the need to wear a mask.

Exactly my position. I believe the CDC, WHO, Fauci, and all the claims they made about how well vaccines work. I trust them and the vaccines absolutely and 100%. So fu*ck off of my mask.

Joker
7 Oct 2021  #7867

I trust them and the vaccines absolutely and 100%

Remember, when they said if you are vaccinated, you dont need to wear the mask anymore? Thats what I go by. They only changed it bc of politics, so kiss my dupa!

And another thing, 95% of the masks you see ppl wearing dont do jack squat! They cant stop viruses at all. Perhaps, if youre in the need to sand down some furniture, youre all set! lol

Novichok
7 Oct 2021  #7868

They cant stop viruses at all.

You mean to tell me that a 50-micron hole cannot stop the 1-micron virus? Holy sh*it! How could it be?

PolAmKrakow
7 Oct 2021  #7869

@amiga500
"As Sam Harris said, even if that figure is correct (and is open to doubt since VAERS is an open system) 15k people have died from the vaccine out of 398 million vaccine doses given. compare that to the 700 hundred thousand deaths from the coronavirus. Therefore the vaccine is benefical and needed to reduce deaths."

And this is the voice of reason. Cant believe I just wrote that. But anyway, 15K is a small prie to pay to potentially save millions. The many and not the few are what matter.

Novichok
7 Oct 2021  #7870

15k people have died from the vaccine

Covid mobs use "from" and "with" as fits. Hospitals and the CDC used "with" to better fit their tactics.
In this case, "with" would actually be better for the vaccinated.

Novichok
7 Oct 2021  #7871

From:

gulfnews.com/world/americas/heart-damage-plagues-covid-19-survivors-a-year-after-infection-study-shows-1.1633593286136

Heart damage from Covid-19 extends well beyond the disease's initial stages, according to a study that found even people who were never sick enough to need hospitalization are in danger of developing heart failure and deadly blood clots a year later.

Not good...

Looker
7 Oct 2021  #7872

Brilliant covid mandates' mockery:

youtu.be/Rrp68MOjnK4

mafketis
7 Oct 2021  #7873

Day 64 (or 54* or 04**) of the fourth wave...

percent of positive test results: 4.88% of 41,142 tests..

hospitalization: +90= 2103

percentage of positive tests to hospital admissions: not sure if I'll keep this up... it isn't indicating much....

day 64: 4.5 %
day 63: 2.4 %
day 62: 8.9 %
day 61: 17.8 %
day 60: 4.1 %
day 59: 0.0 %
day 58: 5.4 %
day 57: 4.0 %
day 56: 3.0 %

intensive care: +17 = 207

deaths: 29 (21 with comorbidities)

from the previous day***: seven day moving average of daily deaths : 21 (+1)

Currently infected (how ever they happen to calculate that....) some bogus number over 174,000.... (which kind of throws a lot of the other numbers into doubt as well...)

*the minister of health first announced the fourth wave for the second half of august but jumped the gun 10 days earlier saying it had already begun)

**more or less when it really began

***the source I use is a day behind and I'm too lazy to calculate on my own

Novichok
7 Oct 2021  #7874

Does a society that is 100% vaccinated need masks?
Does a society that is 99% vaccinated need masks?
If the answer to both is no, at what level of vaccination does a society need masks?

johnny reb
7 Oct 2021  #7875

Sounds like the start of another open ended meaningless argument about your personal opinion on Covid masks to me.
I'm not saying that you are here just to argue with someone......I'm just saying.....
well I guess it would be fair to say that, Yes, that is exactly what you are doing again.

Korvinus
7 Oct 2021  #7876

15k people have died from the vaccine out of 398 million vaccine doses give

It is not normal that people die from vaccines. . And it is a fallacy to compare the risks of the vaccines directly to the risks of COVID as you have to get COVID first. In other words, you have to compare "pI * pS" vs. "pV" where pI is the probability of getting infected, "pS" is the risk of getting seriously ill and "pV" is the risk of suffering a serious vaccination side effect. As billions of people will get the vaccine, we will have a huge amount of serious side effects which can also affect people not at risk from the virus itself. For example, a 32 year old woman died in Germany after getting AZ and she would have survived the virus easily. I don't understand how people like Harris can be so blasé over the side effects of the vaccines.

Novichok
7 Oct 2021  #7877

For example, a 32-year-old woman died in Germany after getting AZ and she would have survived the virus easily.

Looking beyond Covid, mandating vaccines just to be allowed to have a life sets a new precedent.

The ruling mafia aka the government can now demand that you take anything they decide is needed for public safety - including mind-numbing drugs to make you less likely to be a criminal.

It will be the Western version of the Chinese re-education camps done virtually and off-site.

Novichok
7 Oct 2021  #7878

Brilliant covid mandates' mockery:

And a perfect copy of mask mandates to protect others. If I go into the water without a lifejacket, I may drown. Then, a good Samaritan will try to save me and drown doing it. Therefore, for his protection, I must wear a lifejacket. So simple and so logical. And not funny...

There was a time when Michigan Hitler banned boating on Lake Michigan. For those who don't know anything about Lake Michigan, it's a lake not much smaller than the Atlantic. Here, in Illinois, we were not allowed to play tennis in parks because our 400-pound Hitler said so. They even put chains on the gates.

PolAmKrakow
7 Oct 2021  #7879

@Korvinus
You have no basis to make a claim she would have easily survived. I had a friend 34 yrs old, former professional athlete, in amazing shape and he died in 10 days. So take the guess work and wrap it in a mask and flush both.

Novichok
7 Oct 2021  #7880

You have no basis to make a claim she would have easily survived.

Her survival should be her decision. We can protect ourselves by getting vaccinated and make her vaccine status irrelevant.
The same applies to mask-wearing. My mask - on or off - has nothing to do with the people around me who are free to get vaccinated or not and wear their masks or not.

That is the benefit of getting vaccinated and the freedom to say no. "My body, my choice".

PolAmKrakow
7 Oct 2021  #7881

@Novichok
This is how it should be. But it never will be. Everyone needs some Fing cause to get involved with or have an opinion about to march or parade. Fing stupid.

Korvinus
7 Oct 2021  #7882

. I had a friend 34 yrs old, former professional athlete, in amazing shape and he died in 10 days.

This is just an anecdotal evidence. Posting anecdotal evidence regarding anything is retarded. The flu has an estimated IFR (we don't know the CFR because nobody bothers to actually test for influenza viruses) of 0.04%, give or take depending on how severe the wave is. In the US the 2017/2018 flu wave killed approximately 60.000 people. That's enough material alone to make a story about each one of those deaths for years to come and you wouldn't even need crisis actors. The whole spiel about overwhelmed hospitals is also nothing new, happens every flu season but is entirely localized and not a nation-wide crisis as the MSM tries to imply nowadays. If anything the pandemic should've woken up a few people regarding general health, that's what you get for preaching 'fat is healthy and beautiful and everyone who doesn't agree is a fatshaming fatphobe'.

Novichok
7 Oct 2021  #7883

Just read about Mamas and Papas. She died at 32 because she was a fat pig. Drugs didn't help, either, but it was not the drugs that killed her.

I brought up a great point. Bullies and fat shamers are to be thanked for their courage and the willingness to speak up. They may actually be more persuasive than all that loving crap because they deliver their message with a 2 by 4. It registers much better...

Paulina
7 Oct 2021  #7884

In the US the 2017/2018 flu wave killed approximately 60.000 people.

So how many of them were 34-year-old former professional athletes in amazing shape who died in 10 days?

Novichok
7 Oct 2021  #7885

in amazing shape

Amazing shape does not guarantee anything. One day I was in great shape pumping iron. The next day, they were shoving a stent up my rear end.

Paulina
7 Oct 2021  #7886

Amazing shape does not guarantee anything.

It guarantees that you won't die from flu in 10 days.

Novichok
7 Oct 2021  #7887

If it is just the flu...Lately, and for the last 50 years, I don't trust the establishment data and everything else.

johnny reb
7 Oct 2021  #7888

It guarantees that you won't die from flu in 10 days.

You will aye, are you a Doctor now too Ms. Snooty ?

johnny reb
7 Oct 2021  #7889

The unvaccinated in Canada are effectively on permanent lockdown, effectively forcing many into compliance and others into despair.
According to Trudeau, however, prompt vaccination allows you "to get back to the things you love."
Hail Dictator Justin Pierre Trudeau !

PolAmKrakow
8 Oct 2021  #7890

@Paulina
Dont care. Read the whole thread before opening your trap. I am in favor of vaccination dummy.


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