Coronavirus in Poland

The idiotic thing (that gives this away as a financial swindle) is that those with natural immunity are _still_ supposed to get vaccinated. Irrational and stupid and.... crooked... that money isn't going be transferred to Pfizer on its own, ya know.

Covid is turning into one of the largest wealth transfers (from taxpayers to already fabulously wealthy private corporations like Pfizer) in history....

Either some posts have been removed or you should take your advice and read before you post.

Yes, for you I'm Dr. Logic from now on lol


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My comment was in support of yours, so what are you on about?


Yup.

Again you talk without knowledge. Nothing guarantees you anything from Flu or any other virus. I also know someone who in perfectly good health died from regular Flu a few years ago. $hit happens.

@Korvinus
Back away from the bong buddy. So what if some are dying from vaccine. I dont care, and most others dont either. The majority are getting vaccinated, the minority can go without and the majority of us dont care as long as our freedoms are not restricted to protect people who have chosen not to get vaccinated.

Survival of the many has and always will taken lead over the survival of the few. This is simply life. All the other BS is political rambling by people who need mental health assistance.

I decided to talk the way PF smartasses do :)


There are, however, circumstances that make you more likely to die from it or not. I've never known anyone who would die from flu, no matter the age. I've never heard in real life about anyone like that either. Some people died in my family from cancer, but not from flu. I know of people in real life who died from Covid-19, but none from flu.


Or genetics.

I did. A 16 yo in my town.

Yes. It does happen. Poles overuse the word grypa, just as Brits overuse the word flu. In most cases they aren't referring to actual influenza which is a serious illness. I had Swine Flu during the 2011 epidemic and couldn't stand up at all. Influenza is a serious illness that over the years has claimed many lives.

Fortunately though, we do have vaccines.

I know this case, they interviewed her mother in a newspaper. She died from a sinus thrombosis. The poor woman suffered from migraine since she was a child, thus when she felt terrible jeadache - a warning sign of sinus thrombosis - she dismissed it as the usual and did not go to a doctor.

Wow, that's horrible... Was she generally healthy?


Yes, my aunt, who's a nurse, gets my grandma, who's over 80 now, vaccinated for flu every year. She got her Covid-19 vaccine too, of course.

I don't think I've ever been vaccinated for flu though...

Day 65 (or 55* or 05**) of the fourth wave...

percent of positive test results: 4.92% of 38,494 tests..

hospitalization: +38= 2141

percentage of positive tests to hospital admissions: not sure if I'll keep this up... it isn't indicating much....

day 65: 1.6 % (a lot lower than a week ago)
day 64: 4.5 %
day 63: 2.4 %
day 62: 8.9 %
day 61: 17.8 %
day 60: 4.1 %
day 59: 0.0 %
day 58: 5.4 %
day 57: 4.0 %
day 56: 3.0 %

intensive care: -4 = 203

deaths: 31 (23 with comorbidities)

from the previous day***: seven day moving average of daily deaths : 22 (+1)

new feature: one year ago (Oct 8 2020) there were more than twice as many cases and fatalities....

Currently infected (how ever they happen to calculate that....) some bogus number over 176,000.... (which kind of throws a lot of the other numbers into doubt as well...)

*the minister of health first announced the fourth wave for the second half of august but jumped the gun 10 days earlier saying it had already begun)

**more or less when it really began

***the source I use is a day behind and I'm too lazy to calculate on my own

Maybe so, but I think that there is at least some awarness that it isn't the same as a minor cold and that untreated influenza or angina, for example, just like many other untreated illnesses (or which aren't being dealt with in the right way), can lead to serious health complications or even death.

Not in europe and poland. We're a bit more sane than the yanks.

And visa versa. The vacicinated spread it too.


And usually the wrong ones.
Get a flu shot and still get the flu and the "medical professionals" will tell you that your flu vaccine does cover the strain of flu you have or that you didnt get it as bad as you would have....the pat answers. lol

I did. A 16 yo in my town.


She ? lol

@johnny_reb, I was in a hurry and forgot to add "/he".

You are not in Europe. You're in the dystopian, authoritarian nightmare known as ..... Australia..... brrrrrrrr

And I was referring to Canadians who are not 'yanks' but rather 'canucks"

@Paulina


Well of course you were.
(J.R. rolls his eyes and laughs out loud)

Yes, she was healthy, no health problems at all.


I was twice in my life. First time was a nightmare.

It's all over in early november when we hit 70-80 percent vaxxed. On monday NSW is dropping its lockdown.

More likely when winter is over.... vaccination works to a point and after that ends up with diminishing returns (see Israel).

hey maf down under it's summer in november :)

exactly! winter's over (the real reason cases decrease and the government lets you leave your house again).

Be grateful they still let you decide how many breaths per hour you take. You do know that more breaths means more covid virus out of your virus-emitting body, right? One day soon, you will be taxed per breath. The first field test is scheduled to take place in the gulag commonly known as Australia.

you should stop posting and embarrassing yourself

@Korvinus
Not embarrassed at all. Very secure with my opinion. You are the one spouting nut case conspiracy garbage.

gavi.org/vaccineswork/next-pandemic/marburg
washingtonpost.com/news/to-your-health/wp/2017/10/24/world-leaders-rehearse-for-a-pandemic-that-will-come-sooner-than-we-expect/

Sounds far fetched but I'll leave this here just in case.

No, it does not. Look at Australia. Anyone who would predict that this "democratic" hellhole would do to its population what it is doing now would be called every name under the sun - including a conspiratorial nutcase. In a milder form, we are pressured to get vaccines AND wear masks, thus, disconnecting the covid Gestapo's actions from any semblance of reason - as if to set the precedent that power does not need to be logical and reasonable.

"You are the one spouting nut case conspiracy garbage."

Yup, it's all just a big conspiracy ain't it.
These medical experts are saying the vaccine is full of sh!t !
Well watch this whole thing, read the captions below and see if it changes your mind just a tad why don't sha.

youtube.com/watch?v=obdI7tgKLtA&ab_channel=ProjectVeritas

@johnny reb
Hilarious. Those are not "experts" they are nut cases having breakdowns. Clip and cut, clip and cut over and over the same garbage. Not even the far right anti vax media outlets are picking that garbage up and using it. Complaining about reports taking to long to file is complaining about someone who is too lazy to do their job.

My sister is a Doctor in NYC, on the front lines, this kind of garbage is insulting to people who are actually working to save the lives of people with COVID in the hospital.

Tinfoil on the head is not just for staying dry in the rain any more. It blocks nanotubes and new life forms from escaping through the holes in the top of you head created by the vaccine that no one else can see. Everyone needs to run out and get some before there is a shortage like toilet paper.

@PolAm
Hey, you sound like the "authority" here, not me.


So what weight does that carry here ?
I know I am not impressed.
Here is another one for you to deny.
This whistleblower tells about fetal tissue being used in Pfizer vaccine.

gospelnewsnetwork.org/2021/10/07/pfizer-whistleblower-leaks-execs-emails-we-want-to-avoid-having-info-on-fetal-cells-out-there-video/

I don't care about cases, i care about hospitlisation and ICU rates. and vaccinations reduce those quite effectively.