Coronavirus in Poland

I also think hospitalizations are at least partly driven by medical staff getting covid bonuses and hoping to keep the gravy train rolling a few more stops...

Deaths have always been most those with underlying conditions (aka comorbidities). I think if the vaccines work it's largely through giving lots of cases (with no or mild symptoms) that they don't seek medical treatment for.


Vaccinating the recovered seems very needless beyond generating more money for Pfizer...

Day 70 (or 60* or 10**) of the fourth wave...

percent of positive test results: 5.88% of 44,897 tests... still not 6%...

hospitalization: +107= 2722

intensive care: = 239 (no change)

deaths: 40 (34 with comorbidities)

from the previous day***: seven day moving average of daily deaths : 25 (no change)

Currently infected (how ever they happen to calculate that....) some bogus number over 181,000.... (which kind of throws a lot of the other numbers into doubt as well...)

*the minister of health first announced the fourth wave for the second half of august but jumped the gun 10 days earlier saying it had already begun)

**more or less when it really began

***the source I use is a day behind and I'm too lazy to calculate on my own

It depends if they've got 5g internet or not.


Are you really accusing the doctors and nurses of fraud?


No they don't.

Of course not.... I'm pointing out that people respond to incentives and if you incentivize hospitalizing people with a particular ailment then diagnoses and hospitalizations will be higher rather than lower.

That does sound like fraud, especially in the unfortunate situation where some hospitals are not public sector.

Generally there's a huge incentive for hospitals not to admit patients.

...unless it's for covid....

Both are dysfunctional policies and need to end...

Just saw that Germany has so far spent 5.2 billion (dollars or euros) on free covid testing. That's money not spent on other aspects of healthcare.

covid policy mostly is about austerity, withdrawal of many medical services from the public in favor of massive payments to Big Pharma...

That's good.


Yet another reason to nationalise the lot.

Spot on maf as it has already been documented that recovered Covid patients are 27 times more protected by natural immunity than a person that has never had Covid yet is fully vaccinated.

Why is doesn't the BBC, CNN and CDC report this every day like they do bullying us with the vaccine ?


That would depends on who you ask I guess.
Would you like to elaborate on your one line cop out.

What is the source of this information?

@Ziemowit
Why do I always have to do everyone's homework for them ?

visiontimes.com/2021/09/14/pfizer-27x-symptomatic-covid-break-through-natural-immunity.html

Here is another very good article for the paranoid.

citizenfreepress.com/column-2/the-power-of-natural-covid-immunity/

Evidently the 'Falun Gong'.

how are you guys liking the new normal?

nature.com/articles/d41586-019-01880-6

From:

startribune.com/rising-covid-19-numbers-returning-to-pre-vaccine-levels-in-minnesota/600105889/

Rising COVID-19 numbers returning to pre-vaccine levels in Minnesota
Hospitalizations reach a high for this year

Translation: nothing that covid Gestapo demands works. Only your own body.

Day 71 (or 61* or 11**) of the fourth wave...

percent of positive test results: 6.68% of 44,889 tests... smashing past 6 % and honing in on 7!

hospitalization: +174= 2796

intensive care: = 248 (no change)

deaths: 60 (46 with comorbidities)

from the previous day***: seven day moving average of daily deaths : 27 (+2)

Currently infected (how ever they happen to calculate that....) some bogus number over 183,000.... (which kind of throws a lot of the other numbers into doubt as well...)

*the minister of health first announced the fourth wave for the second half of august but jumped the gun 10 days earlier saying it had already begun)

**more or less when it really began

***the source I use is a day behind and I'm too lazy to calculate on my own

Can anyone provide a source where ANYONE in the world has done ANY research on the safety and after effects of the vaccine since the start of this nightmare.

Day 72 (or 62 or 12)* of the fourth wave...

percent of positive test results: 6.95% of 44,889 tests... closing in on 7 %!

hospitalization: +81= 2877

intensive care:+ 9 = 257

deaths: 49 (28 with comorbidities)

from the previous day**: seven day moving average of daily deaths : 30 (+3)

Currently infected (how ever they happen to calculate that....) some bogus number over 185,000.... (which kind of throws a lot of the other numbers into doubt as well...)

*differing accounts of when the fourth wave began

**the source I use is a day behind and I'm too lazy to calculate on my own

It's all kicking off in Italy regarding vaccine mandates.
"With a combination of absentees, strikes and protests planned to block motorways and shut down ports, unions are warning of shortages of raw materials, fuel and food, and likely disruption to essential public services such as garbage collection.

The symbol of the rebellion has become the strategically vital port of Trieste, where workers - only 40 percent of whom are vaccinated - have announced a shutdown until the government calls off the new rules." politico.eu/article/italy-anti-vaccine-protestors-against-covid-passport/

FORZA TRIESTE!

Day 73 (or 63 or 13)* of the fourth wave...

percent of positive test results: 7.4`% of 43,645 tests... closing in on 7 %!

hospitalization: +135 = 3012

intensive care:+ 24 = 281

deaths: 44 (34 with comorbidities)

from the previous day**: seven day moving average of daily deaths : +4 = 34

Currently infected (how ever they happen to calculate that....) some bogus number over 185,000.... (which kind of throws a lot of the other numbers into doubt as well...)

*differing accounts of when the fourth wave began

**the source I use is a day behind and I'm too lazy to calculate on my own

twitter.com/user/status/1444985057354072065

The SWR (German public TV station) reports that researchers at the University of Ulm examined the contents of the AZ injections. They found that two thirds of the contents are not supposed to be there and only one third is the actual "vaccine". They say this is "unusual" and "not what you would expect".

The stuff that does not belong there are human and viral proteins that are necessary for the production of the "vaccine". And they say they cannot rule out that this stuff causes serious adverse effects.

Interesting how they put the contents of what we eat and drink on the container but refuse to tell us what they inject into our bodies.

Makes normal thinking people suspicious.

The fact that the SWR asked to examine only the AZ shots is shady in itself. Who made that decision? Why only AZ?

The only people intrested in defending this now are those who have buyers remorse and don't want to be wrong or go down on the sinking ship alone. The vaxxers at this point realize they bought a lemon, but want everyone else to share their suffering for their stupid decision.

@Korvinus
And the anti vaxers just die, so its all good

EU still having fits about the UK getting AZ first?

I have a lot of friends/collegues who have rushed out and got it, despite it not even being mandatory where I live as of yet. Guinea-pig regret syndrome, they won't be happy until everyone is a guinea-pig along with them.

Also calling anyone who is against it being mandatory an "anti-vaxxer", as if anyone is stopping them from getting as many needles as they want lol...

@Korvinus
No one is saying pro choice is anti vax. Anti vax is obvious, and they can pick a number and wait for ICU for all I care. The rest of us move on with life. Vax can never be truly mandatory, not having the vax can only be life experience limiting. So make your choice, as long as it doesnt effect me, I dont care.

Australian Korvinus and his girlfriend youtu.be/IAkygRBk9vA

Nice. LMFAO

Day 74 (or 64 or 14)* of the fourth wave...

percent of positive test results: 8.8`% of 28,697 tests... closing in on 9 %!

hospitalization: +65 = 3077

intensive care:+ 1 = 282

deaths: 1 (with comorbidities)

from the previous day**: seven day moving average of daily deaths : +1 = 35

Currently infected (how ever they happen to calculate that....) some bogus number over 185,000.... (which kind of throws a lot of the other numbers into doubt as well...)

*differing accounts of when the fourth wave began

**the source I use is a day behind and I'm too lazy to calculate on my own