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Coronavirus in Poland



PolAmKrakow
17 Oct 2021  #8011

Last year I believe October 23 when we had similar numbers we went into the next lockdown. No talk of it now. Maybe governments are learning that the control mechanism can not continue to work.

johnny reb
17 Oct 2021  #8012

Tell them that about the mandatory vaccination or lose your job that is now in place.

johnny reb
17 Oct 2021  #8013

Maybe governments are learning that the control mechanism can not continue to work.

Houston hospitals have "reached a breaking point" amid a COVID outbreak, which struck weeks after 150 hospital workers were fired by Houston Methodist hospital, one of several hospitals struggling.

According to C.B.S. news:
Jennifer Bridges knew what was coming when her director at Houston Methodist hospital called her up in June to inquire about her vaccination status.
Bridges, a 39-year-old registered nurse, responded "absolutely not" when asked if she was vaccinated or had made an effort to get vaccinated. She was terminated on the spot.

"We all knew we were getting fired," Bridges, 39, told CBS News. "We knew unless we took that shot to come back, we were getting fired today.

There was no ifs, ands or buts."
Bridges was one of more than 150 hospital workers fired by Houston Methodist hospital.

PolAmKrakow
17 Oct 2021  #8014

@johnny reb
Sounds like she and the others made choices. Just like I told my employees, no vaccine, no work. Its business, and thats just life.

Sorry a year ago we were at 9600 a day.

johnny reb
17 Oct 2021  #8015

Maybe governments are learning that the control mechanism can not continue to work.

I told my employees, no vaccine, no work.

Sounds like a control issue/mechanism to me not to mention being hypocritical.

amiga500
17 Oct 2021  #8016

Just like I told my employees, no vaccine, no work.

Is that legal in Poland? I thought you can only transfer them away from customer facing postions.

johnny reb
17 Oct 2021  #8017

Is that legal in Poland?

Very good question.

Here is the latest State Side that raises another very good question.
Covid rising faster among vaxxed Vermonters.

vermontdailychronicle.com/2021/10/12/covid-rising-faster-among-vaxxed-vermonters/

Korvinus
17 Oct 2021  #8018

Turn off tv ( better sell it), dont read newspapers/magazines. Wow welcome to real life, without covid.

PolAmKrakow
17 Oct 2021  #8019

@amiga500
Every position I have is a customer facing position. And legal or not, I dont care, I make it a condition of receiving a contract. Lawyers said it was fine.

@johnny reb
Definitely a control issue since I don't want to risk myself, family, or other employees to anyone who doesn't care enough about others to protect them. I have an absolute right to insulate my business and myself from people who make choices that can effect me and others. I also have an absolute right and obligation to insulate and take steps to insure my business is not interrupted or does not interrupt other people business that mine has an impact on.

People are free to seek employment elsewhere, no problem at all with anyone who doesn't want to follow my rules.

johnny reb
17 Oct 2021  #8020

who doesn't care enough about others to protect them.

Does that include wearing a mask or is that another of YOUR subjective rules ?

And legal or not, I dont care, Lawyers said it was fine.

So your lawyer said it was fine if it was illegal ? Some lawyer you have there.

PolAmKrakow
17 Oct 2021  #8021

@johnny reb
Why would I require someone to wear a mask if vaccinated? That's just stupid.

Yes. My lawyers said I had an absolute right to protect my business assets and my personal well being in the workplace. While I couldn't just fire people for not being vaccinated. I can legally use it as a screening tool and condition of employment. Fortunately for me, my employee's contracts always expire at the same time. New contracts included new clauses, and not one person objected. Zero outbreaks.

Cargo pants
17 Oct 2021  #8022

condition of employment.

That is what United Airlines used.A pilot in my gym never wanted to get vaccinated but now he did cuz of loosing his job,esp when airline industry is way down.

PolAmKrakow
17 Oct 2021  #8023

@Cargo pants
I respect people have a choice to get the jab or not. Wear a mask or not. I also have a choice in who I employ or not. Unfortunately, pilots and specialty workers have to make difficult choices, similar in my line of work. Its a new world in the regard to vaccine, but not in regard to employment screening. I have a right to drug test and not employ people who do drugs. I also have a right to ensure safety in the workplace and not allow people to carry knives or guns or pepper spray. Needless to say I also have the right to not be forced to hire anyone to meet an ethnicity quota.

johnny reb
17 Oct 2021  #8024

Why would I require someone to wear a mask if vaccinated?

Why would you require someone get vaccinated when fully vaccinated people are getting and giving Covid at a higher rate than those who haven't been vaccinated so now the question is, "Why put a foreign substance in your body that makes no difference at this point in the game ?"

Add that to the fact that healthy people are dying from the vaccine that they were 'forced' to get by dictators like you.
Do you think that the vaccine could be deadlier then Covid itself ?
Time will tell I guess after they have sterilized most of the population in the world.

PolAmKrakow
17 Oct 2021  #8025

@johnny reb
Because you are spouting fake news. Vaccinated ARE NOT getting and spreading covid at a higher rate.

My company, yes I am a dictator in it. Dont like it dont work for me.

Sterilize me please. My wife would love it. And IT would save me the operation lol

All these nut job theories have been debunked. You need to get out of the house.

johnny reb
17 Oct 2021  #8026

Because you are spouting fake news.

LOL - so YOU say.... because you disagree with me that it is fake news.
Simple enough to see who is right and who is wrong and I will let you Google it for yourself.
Simply type in - Are vaccinated people getting covid at a higher rate then the un vaccinated
Then come back here and tell us that ALL those sources are fake news while you post your sources that says otherwise.

PolAmKrakow
17 Oct 2021  #8027

@johnny reb
eu.statesman.com/story/news/politics/2021/10/16/people-covid-vaccine-safe-spreading-covid-others/8472251002/
Get an education.

eu.desertsun.com/story/news/health/2021/10/08/unvaccinated-27-x-more-likely-get-covid-19-than-vaccinated-rivco/6025756001/ like that showed up in your suggested search.

npr.org/2021/09/10/1036023973/covid-19-unvaccinated-deaths-11-times-more-likely?t=1634490354257 same search result

Report after report. Read. Comprehend. Understand. Get educated. You are spouting fake news. The exact same BS that Trump complained of. Conspiracy theory. Total BS.

Joker
17 Oct 2021  #8028

Turn off tv ( better sell it)

Words of wisdom, here....

Novichok
17 Oct 2021  #8029

Conspiracy theory.

There are no conspiracies. Only fear of not "doing something", incompetence, and power trips.

jon357
17 Oct 2021  #8030

Conspiracy theory

Basically yes. malicious fake news, spread through ill will and stupidity.

johnny reb
17 Oct 2021  #8031

@PolAmKrakow
Like you would respond to diminish me....."Those are all Left Wing Conspiracy Sites that have all been discredited." LOL

Report after report.

Yup and I can post as many to discredit you as you can me.
We both better just start listening to dr. Fucci so we will know how many people we will be allowed to invite to Thanksgiving dinner.

Point is....Vaccines have killed and vaccinated people can get and spread covid.
And now that we are getting close to reaching herd immunity the sheep can keep getting vaccinated if they want but please don't try to demand that I get one.

amiga500
17 Oct 2021  #8032

@jonnyreb
You claimed you had covid, do you have covid test result ? you can post a photo of it here, to make sure it's you draw a smiley in red texta or pencil on it.

Novichok
17 Oct 2021  #8033

The main purpose of vaccines is to prevent spreading. That is why in the past kids had to be vaccinated to attend. I got it.

Today, the covid Gestapo is telling me that even if I am tripple-vaccinated I still have to wear a mask because their vaccines don't work.

If there is another explanation, let's have it.

Bottom line: I don't want to hear "get vaccinated" and "wear a mask" - both to protect others.

jon357
17 Oct 2021  #8034

@jonnyreb
You claimed

He's had it, he's not had it, he's been vaccinated, he's not been vaccinated.

Just making sh1t up, really.


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Korvinus
17 Oct 2021  #8035

Why is everyone always telling me what to do ?

Right now we could literally drop all "anti-covid measures" and we would be fine, because the mortality rate is just slightly above the flu and a large percentage of the population already has natural immunity due to prior infection. Even if you think that vaxxes are "necessary", the most vulnerable groups already have them.

You will not understand what is going on as long as you keep pretending that all these "measures" are not about a Great Reset type increase of totalitarian control.

PolAmKrakow
18 Oct 2021  #8036

@johnny reb
And no one said that vaccines did anything more than keep most people from dying when they get covid. Thats it. No one cares about the great reset, or any other theory. No one has said vaccinated cant get it, or spread it. Most vaccinated wont die when they get it though, and most people dying are unvaccinated.

Nanotubes, new life forms and tinfoil on my head are not going to change the fact that if you dont get the jab you are going to have a limited existence. Thats just where we are, and spouting off about theories isn't going to change things.

johnny reb
18 Oct 2021  #8037

No one cares about the great reset,

I wouldn't say that at all.
There is a plan behind all of this and that is a for sure.
A lot of people got rich off this and a lot of people lost everything they had.
Did you see where Delta Airlines C.E.O. just told biden to take his mandates some place else ?
Nobody cares anymore as the fear mongering has lost it's pazzazz.

You claimed you had covid, do you have covid test result ?

That is the third time you have asked me that now.

He's had it, he's not had it, he's been vaccinated, he's not been vaccinated. Just making sh1t up, really.

jon, YOU are the one making up the sh1t, unless you can show us a post where I ever said that I have not had Covid.

Otherwise quit your lying.

PolAmKrakow
18 Oct 2021  #8038

@johnny reb
Thats the funny part. I do not give a damn about the few companies making billions off of this. They have been exploiting the masses since the beginning of the industrial age. Good for DELTA after the Southwest airlines sick out strike last week. Again, I do not care about anyone else's choice. They are free to make it. The left wing is full of control freaks, tree huggers, rainbow lovers and all kinds of special interests. The right wing is controlled by oil, coal, banks and other special interests. Who cares. We are all pawns in the game, and I just want to be free to play my game and have others do the same as long as we can.

Anyone who thinks the world can be re-set by a virus has not watched the news. This thing isn't ever going away. They got almost 2 years out of riding this news story and now people are just tired of it. Cant re-set people who just ignore what is going on around them. If people do not buy into programming, the programming goes away. No different than Blockbuster. People stopped renting movies, and they are gone. There will be another world emergency where more groups profit in the next few years, and again, all will be repeated. If I am still around, I wont buy into what ever theories are being sold then either.

johnny reb
18 Oct 2021  #8039

@PolAm
EXCELLENT POST !
I concur 100%.
I guess what p!sses me off the most is vaccinating anyone under the age of 21.
That is complete B.S. where the vaccine is more dangerous than Covid.
140 kids died of Covid in the U.S. by February of this year and most of them had underlying medical conditions
Read it here:
According to data from the (CDC) Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, COVID-19 is deadliest among older populations.
In fact, through February 17, 93 percent of COVID-19 deaths nationwide have occurred among those ages 55 or older.
Only 0.2 percent were younger than 25.

datavisualizations.heritage.org/public-health/covid-19-deaths-by-age/

VAERS received and processed 9,246 reports of adverse events for adolescents aged 12-17 years who received Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine during December 14, 2020-July 16, 2021
I'm sorry but .2% does not justify giving our youth an experimental vaccine that is more dangerous to them then Covid is.
Even with all the hype of shoving the vaccine ads down our throats daily non-stop for a year, there are still 40% of the population that are not vaccinated.

That tells me that 40% of the American people aren't to worried about Covid anymore.
All the aid and stimulus money should be cut off immediately and demand people go back to work to get this damn economy going again is what I think.

mafketis
18 Oct 2021  #8040

Day 75 (or 65 or 15)* of the fourth wave...

percent of positive test results: 6.9`% of 22,364 tests... back down under 7 % anything under 25,000 tests shows unstable positive results but if you average yesterday and today you get 7.8 %)

hospitalization: +187 = 3264 (usual Monday bump in hospitalizations)

intensive care:+ 14 = 296

deaths: 3 (2 with comorbidities)

from the previous day**: seven day moving average of daily deaths: = 35 (no change)

Currently infected (how ever they happen to calculate that....) some bogus number over 187,000.... (which kind of throws a lot of the other numbers into doubt as well...)

*differing accounts of when the fourth wave began

**the source I use is a day behind and I'm too lazy to calculate on my own


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