Coronavirus in Poland

@johnny reb
I would agree with that except I would say anyone U18 should not be given, and 18 and up has their own legal choice since they are of age. I also do not agree with mandates. I believe in choice. No one should be forced to do anything for anyone, mask or vaccine. And no one should be forced to do something for someone who has made an opposite choice either.

zerohedge.com/markets/former-secstate-colin-powell-dies-covid-complications

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The online conspiracist and anti-vaxxer Russ Dizdar has just died of covid....

podomatic.com/podcasts/preemptionbroadcast/episodes/2021-03-15T16_00_00-07_00


Here's a comment: he was 84.

with not from, he was being treated for blood cancer....

Dr Franc Zalewski "the thing" covid vaxx video

bitchute.com/video/45rx8vafSfWS/

Indeed, however conspiracists and other 'troofers' (like the geologist and pyramid mysteries 'expert' Franc Zalewski, feebly mentioned above) seem care nought for such mundane facts.

@jon357
Ancient aliens delivered the virus through a time warp located in a pyramid, and then sent it to China using a system of paddle boats only operating under cover of night with oompa loompas. Mystery solved, and Willy Wanka planned all of it to take over the m&m market.

Colin Powell, Who Shaped U.S. National Security, Dies at 84 from complications from Covid.

Thing is, I'm willing to listen to a difference of opinions especially if they present their findings in an intelligent and open manner. You do not - you simply shut things out that don't conform to your worldview and ideology.

And right now, there's simply not enough evidence to say that the vaxx is safe and effective. No matter how you look at it's been rushed through the FDA, it's an mrna vaccine which is totally different from the vectors vaccines that kids receive, and there's been ten of thousands of adverse reactions reported - blood clots, women getting their menstrual cycles all ****** up, enlarged hearts, etc. You have even athletes who are in peak physical condition keeling over and ending up in the ER.

To top it off, it's done a **** poor job at preventing covid


he certainly has more credentials and education than you do...

I forgot to mention that he was FULLY VACCINATED and had cancer but the death certificated will say the cause of death was Covid.


Not to mention over 6,000 deaths however there is not much reporting on those statistics.

My bet is that now these dictatorial mandates are starting to show up in the higher courts that all of a sudden we are going to be told that we have reached herd immunity status and we no longer need the vaccines.

Anyone want to bet me ?

Remember those pesky temporary airport security measures we all had to go through in 2001?

Remember all the government spying on everyone because of terrorists?

Oh, right, those are still in place. And they're not going anywhere.

So its started again - Latvia going into a 4 week lockdown with a vax rate only a bit lower than Poland.

If they lock down in Poland i am just going to carry on as normal. I got the vaccine and thats that. Tired of these unaccountable decisions

It'll be the opposite. They're going to demand booster after booster after booster...

Whatever. I'm not taking the vaxx no matter what. It's a shame though that they're basically threatening people with losing their job literally with taking food off their table if they don't comply. If you're a healthcare worker, soldier, government worker, etc. it's either get the vaxx or get fired and receive no unemployment/benefits. Companies over 100 employees have to get it now too and who knows how the whole thing with covid vaxx plays out - if you're in a state that has easy exemptions, great. But otherwise the company can say that you basically quit by refusing to comply with a company policy thus denying you unemployment... i really wonder how that's going to work for people like that.

Even if it's deemed totally healthy, safe and effective (which it isn't) I still don't believe that the government can force me to put something into my body. Governments around the world are straight up saying that they're going to make life miserable for people who aren't vaxxed and basically shun then from society. Canada and Australia are the worst offenders.

Where are all the cries of "my body my choice?"

I say, 2 shots is good enough for me and Im not listening to them anymore. Especially, Dr.Fraud or any other Demorat.

Its 100% political and Illinois is one of the worst states to live in besides New York or California

Really?


I've had 2 and feel fine. If a third is necessary, it's just a little prick.

Though frankly speaking, the bigger the prick the better....

Strange isn't it how the only complaints are really against mRNA vaccine and J&J there's not much of any complaints. Yes, J&J is "less effective" but isn't it more effective if it comes with less questions? Wouldn't it make sense to push that vaccine more? Just thinking here. I got that jab because it only required one visit. I was more sick from that than I was from COVID.

While the side effects are bad, and some people have died. A lot fewer have died because they got the vaccines. That is simply a fact. Not that I personally care if people who dont want to get the jab die off. Again its their choice. I agree, my body my choice and it goes both ways.

I received mine back in May and June, no issues at all.

Interesting news coming out of Japan... They are ready to fully open back up soon, as Biden wants more mandates for the US

apnews.com/article/coronavirus-pandemic-sports-lifestyle-business-2020-tokyo-olympics-9ac68d89a4124116a0a8d6cfc5e48eb7

Day 76 (or 66 or 16)* of the fourth wave...

percent of positive test results: 8.0 % of 49,403 tests... close to my previous two-day average

hospitalization: +328 = 3592 (usual Monday bump in hospitalizations)

intensive care:+ 22 = 318

deaths: 64 (49 with comorbidities)

from the previous day**: seven day moving average of daily deaths: = 35 (no change)

Currently infected (how ever they happen to calculate that....) some bogus number over 190,000.... (which kind of throws a lot of the other numbers into doubt as well...)

*differing accounts of when the fourth wave began

**the source I use is a day behind and I'm too lazy to calculate on my own

Naw, there will be a new virus by then.
This one was just a test to see how many sheeple will volunteer for the chip under their skin.
(Coming soon)
Have you noticed how the ONLY stats you can get are the ones that are to THEIR advantage ?

It is easier to hide protests now than it was 40 years ago before the internet. Back then, all the independent journo's would be running around with their camera's, stealing the story, and any press that didn't get it out in time would have missed out. These days they are all owned by oligarchs, journo's are mostly lazy ***** that just use things like that "official" webcam, and they can run an old feed through the system and show it as "current". If it wasn't for the small media outfits and normal people videoing everything, you would only know what "they" want you to know. Isn't consolidation great?

I went to see a doctor today. When we were done, I asked him this: With my three shots, do I get any benefit from wearing a mask. His answer: None. Zero.

Then, to show what a nice guy I was, I asked if my mask protects others. His answer: If they are vaccinated, your mask means nothing. If they are not vaccinated, screw 'em.

His exact words.

what should the polish government do to encourage vaccine uptake, taking into account that they believe in freedom and some of their voters are vaccine hesitant etc. I would propose paying everyone over 50 who has not been vaccinated yet 300 zloty to get the jab. Yes it will **** voters who have already done the right thing but it would probably be cost effective in preventing the hospitals from being overwhelmed in the future.

Nope,they should pay even 200pln to everyone who is vaccinated instead.

Or just fire them from their job so they can't afford food or rent like they are doing in the United States of America, the land of the free.

Yes that would be the equitable option but the cost to the budget would be painfull, especially since we are in big deficit due to corona stimulus.. I think the goverment could spin it somehow, saying sometimes you have to give money to stubborn goats to protect the healthcare system.

@amiga500
Currency is getting crushed now and inflation is ramping up. Printing money is not going to make a difference at this point. I would pay 500 to everyone vaccinated. Thats certain to motivate people and reward people at the same time. Put a 30 day time limit on it and watch what happens.

Printing money in excess in never good for anyone in the long term. But this sin does not only apply to Poland these days.

@polamkrakow Yes you are right , at this stage with the massive QE by all central banks , and the debt laden stimulus by national governments , it's hardly time to worry about the budget. The opposition labour party in australia suggested 300aud/900 zloty , which was rejected by the conservative government . With good reason because we are going to reach 80-90 percent without it, Australia just overtook the USA and U.K in vax rates even though we approved the vaccines months later.

Considering the cost of living in Poland I think 200-300 zloty would be enough to raise vax rates at least 10 percent.

This is one of the last legs of the Covid Plan to destroy economies.
Expect food prices to increase by 10% in the next ten weeks.

Holy Mary, Mother of God, Jesus and his blessed saints! Are the pair of you serious??! You don't convince people to get vaccinated by punishing or rewarding them. The fact that ordinary people (as opposed to extremist nut-jobs) are vaccine-hesitant reflects the lack of trust they have in their governments and health departments. Polish politicians are pretty dodgy as a rule and not well liked or trusted so you won't have a high vaccine take up. Simple as that.