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Coronavirus in Poland



jon357
28 Oct 2021  #8251

People opened their stores, restaurants, and bars covertly, and police did nothing

Far less so in Warsaw, and in the UK they largely took it very seriously. If there's restrictions over there, the first will probably involve schools since Covid seems to incubate in them and be spread to families once the kids go home.

Novichok
28 Oct 2021  #8252

the UK they largely took it very seriously.

The good citizens of the UK should never forgive and forget their Gestapo.
The similarities within the "subject" territories are striking and unnerving. After NAZIs and KGB, one would expect more restrain from the Queen's ruling mobs and a lot more resistance from their victims.

jon357
28 Oct 2021  #8253

in most cases not lawful

Over there it was lawful under the emergency powers that were enacted. There were a few fines, however most people stuck to the rules.

Tlum
28 Oct 2021  #8254

Learn from the history (the true history is only available after about 40 years). The WW1 started because of the industrial revolution. The world had too many people and the machines were to take over. They needed a way to reduce the population, so they started the war. During the war, they gathered thousands of soldiers on an empty field and shoot them just like that. They said it was the enemy, but it was not. The assassination of some prince as a trigger of the war was a total BS.

100 years later, we have the hi-tech revolution. Robots taking over production, both physical and mental. They want to get rid of people because they don't need them. So they came up with the Covid "pandemic." The end goal is for people to take the shot which will make them infertile and booster their death. If you took the vaccine, and booster, you play their satanic game. Good luck.

Korvinus
28 Oct 2021  #8255





Make the world angry, so you turn that anger to your advantage.

Klaus is not alone in his ambitions. Other wealthy elites are part of his club. Bill Gates and George Soros, for example. Others are unknown and prefer to remain as such.

The Great Reset is being accomplished by multiple steps and parties. The first step was the creation and release of C19, so that the manufactured "pandemic" would allow unprecedented changes upon global society and government. Not all parties involved share the same ambitions or even a common knowledge of the Great Reset. But all the parties work ultimately under one party, and that is the one being lead by Klaus and his cronies

They plan to depopulate the earth to about 500 million plebs by 2030 if they have their way. The survivors will literally be worker slaves of the top tier elites. Some of the NWO members want this to happen because they think they are saving the earth in doing so. Others just want to be lords of the earth period. Altogether they believe ~500 million humans is just the right number to be able to controlled, do what they want done, create what they want created, and not impact the environment too strongly. As robotics improve they may choose to lower the population count further (likely).

Then you've got Big Pharma. They were contracted to make the "vaccines", which serve two purposes. One is to kill great swaths of people while also causing mass infertility, and two for the survivors, control their minds using nanotube receivers which attach to the host's synapses and biocomputers (patent lifeforms) which embed themselves into their host's brainstem and pineal gland. What is Big Pharma's motive? Money. Loads and loads of money. They don't care who they hurt, maim, or kill. As long as the CEOs keep getting richer, that's all that matters.

I understand if all of this sounds insane. It would have all sounded insane to me a year ago. But after reading countless articles, watching hundreds of videos, and listening to multitudes of interviews, this situation as I've described above is not only plausible, but entirely likely. If you take the time to do a vast amount of research as I have done, you may come to these conclusions yourself. Or perhaps you will think I'm an idiot. Either way you may now take off your tinfoil hat and resume normal life. For as long as that lasts.

jon357
28 Oct 2021  #8256

so they started a war.

If anything, the great losers of WWI were the ruling class.

If you take the time to do a vast amount of research as I have done,

Where did you do the "vast amount of research"? On the internet.

They plan to depopulate the earth to about 500 million plebs by 2030 if they have their way.

Haven't quite thought that one through, have you...

chrisshrew
28 Oct 2021  #8257

The population are generally quite conformist, and if everything's closed, where would people go?

Not sure about that to be honest, I think most people were reluctantly accepting the lockdowns last year because there was a virus but no vaccine. If there's another lockdown this winter however there may as well be one every winter because the virus isn't going anywhere. Personally I think enforcement could end up being a farce if there was an attempt to bring one back with shops refusing to both close and pay any fines. There could also be protests by people already vaccinated on top of the anti vaccine/lockdown protests of last time.

Instead of encouraging people to get vaccinated it could in fact do the opposite as many had it done purely or at least partly to get things back to normal.

jon357
28 Oct 2021  #8258

I think most people were reluctantly accepting the lockdowns last year

They were indeed reluctant, however furloughed workers got their cash, and the few businesses that didn't comply were find or lost their licences. As you know, the British are, to say the least, konsekwentny.

There could also be protests

There are protests now, as well as all sorts of nutty stuff luke serving fake legal documents on schools. It's at best sporadic and generally ignored.

The protests may be bigger, the scale of infractions slightly bigger, though I doubt it would make that much difference. Anyway, if there's a lockdown, it may be localised, in stages, limited in scope, or what the Blond Clown and his venal chums called a 'firebreak' lockdown.

Novichok
28 Oct 2021  #8259

Instead of encouraging people to get vaccinated it could in fact do the opposite

Good point. This is what happens when the ruling class offers lies as science. Get vaccinated but wear that mask is one of the outcomes.

No, a-holes - one or the other.

The world had too many people and the machines were to take over.

They needed a way to reduce the population, so they started the war.

This is not an invitation to an argument...Just challenge points...

Killing people seems to have the opposite outcome. Like with "baby boomers" after WW2. Young horny guys come home and don't even try to make it to the bedroom...

Sending food and medical supplies to Africa is a step in the wrong direction if population control is the objective.

Helping Africans with AIDS has the same effect.

Allowing surplus people to migrate from their sh*ithole where they consume less to the white welfare countries where they will consume more is insanity if global warming is a problem.

Moving factories to China where they can pollute all they want is just as insane.

Shipping stuff from China that can be made locally makes no sense, either.

I could go on longer but I think I made my point that the globalists are morons just as much as the locals and their lockdowns if depopulation is their plan.

Final point...History shows that the ruling class tends to pay dearly when they cross the line - as they did in 1789 and 1917.

PolAmKrakow
29 Oct 2021  #8260

@Korvinus
When using tinfoil to make a hat, it is the design that covers the ears thats been found to be most effective. Clearly you need to read this and add it to your extensive research. matmatch.com/resources/blog/engineering-the-ideal-tinfoilhat/

Novichok
29 Oct 2021  #8261

When using tinfoil to make a hat,

I would go easy with tinfoil and consider that it took just three guys, Stalin, Hitler, and Mao, to cause the deaths of over 100 million.

As in Australia today, the obedient masses needed to carry out these crimes offered no resistance. The Warren court, by a 5 to 4 vote, caused the deaths of 50 million.

Injecting bad chemicals into the obedient and habitually compliant people - a walk in the park if you tell them that it's for their own good.

900 people drank kool-aid and died when they were ordered to do it by one a-hole who "spoke to God".

It would be interesting to see how many would commit suicide "to save the earth" today.

Korvinus
29 Oct 2021  #8262

I could not be done without cooperation from your government officials. This includes upper elected or appointed officials, many military personnel, all the way down to your thug policeman such as we've seen in Australia and Canada. These people simply want political power and money, and they want to enjoy the benefits such power and money brings. Not all necessarily realize they are the puppets of the NWO. Knowingly or not they are willing to carry out the agenda of the NWO, because for now it affords them power and money. This tier includes the secret labs utilized to produce the C19 virus. A virus designed explicitly to facilitate the NWO agenda, by means of which are illustrated every day since its release. Note that most of these governmental agents will be done away with once their usefulness expires.

mafketis
29 Oct 2021  #8263

Day 86 (or 76 or 26)* of the fourth wave...

percent of positive test results: 15.9 % of 59,181 tests...

hospitalization: +312 = 6175

intensive care: + 26 = 521

deaths: 102 (90 with comorbidities)

from the previous day**: seven day moving average of daily deaths + 7 = 67

Currently infected (how ever they happen to calculate that....) some bogus number over 233,000.... (which kind of throws a lot of the other numbers into doubt as well...)

*differing accounts of when the fourth wave began

**the source I use is a day behind and I'm too lazy to calculate on my own

Novichok
29 Oct 2021  #8264

thug policeman such as we've seen in Australia and Canada.

Conspiracies need only well-meaning and obedient idiots like those thug cops in Australia - all the way from the top to the bottom. That includes the masked morons that give me dirty looks because I am not wearing one. They are part of it.

mafketis
29 Oct 2021  #8265

Not good news for Team Vaccine-junkie

twitter.com/synxchaosu/status/1454114457756504070

22-29 October 2021

INFECTIONS: 46 371
vaccinated: 17 097 [36,87%]
unvaccinated: 29 274 [63,13%]

ZGONY: 516
vaccinated: 156 [30,23%]
unvaccinated: 360 [69,77%]

Confounding factors:

A larger percent of the vaccinated are older.

Only half the population is vaccinated.

But why the massive push to get needles into the arms of anyone who has arms?

AntV
29 Oct 2021  #8266

And, then you got this:

timesofindia.indiatimes.com/world/uk/covid-19-can-be-transmitted-by-fully-vaccinated-people-at-home-lancet-study/articleshow/87358231.cms

More and more it seems that covid is more virulent a political disease than a viral disease.

johnny reb
29 Oct 2021  #8267

When using tinfoil to make a hat, it is the design that covers the ears thats been found to be most effective.

People are catching on PolAm. and not being intimidated or threatened.
SOURCE: SUMMIT.NEWS
90 per cent of Germans who haven't taken the COVID-19 vaccine say they won't get it, with only the remaining 10 per cent saying they will "probably" get it or remaining undecided.

A recent survey carried out by Forsa on behalf of the Ministry for Health found that 65 per cent of Germans say there is "no way" they will get the COVID vaccine over the next two months.

jon357
29 Oct 2021  #8268

SOURCE: SUMMIT.NEWS



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Novichok
29 Oct 2021  #8269

OK, let's see how "right-wing" that evil website really is...Hmm...Oh, here...

summit.news/2021/10/25/denmark-reports-highest-infection-rate-since-may-despite-75-of-population-being-vaccinated/

Denmark Reports Highest Infection Rate Since May Despite 75% of Population Being Fully Vaccinated

A total of 1,349 people in the Scandinavian country tested positive over the last 24 hours, the highest number for four months, while 167 Danes were hospitalized, also the highest amount since May.

The country's virus reproduction (R number) has also jumped to 2.01, which is the highest level since January.


Hey, jon, what in the above is "right-wing", "misleading", and "unproven"? Any ideas?

If nothing comes to mind, let me help you...What is "right-wing" here is that these numbers have been published at all without the covid Gestapo's prior approval. How dare they!

From the same website...

Florida now has the lowest covid rate in the continental United States. And they've done it without mask or vaccine mandates. This is why Ron Desantis terrifies the coronabros. Because all their shutdowns & mandates, which destroy freedoms, provide no benefits.

This is more fun than I deserve. Thank you, JR.

Hey, jon, when you get up tomorrow, do me a favor and find at least two "right-wing" there. I will really appreciate it.

PolAmKrakow
30 Oct 2021  #8270

@johnny reb
Again, I do not care. I can read the news too. It is a virus, mutating. Its life. Get the jab or not. Choice. It you get the jab and get the virus, you are less likely to die. Not complicated in my opinion. Yes. You can still get the virus if you get the jab, but you are less likely to get it. No different than the flu jab.

cms neuf
30 Oct 2021  #8271

They might be weird websites but the numbers given for Florida and Denmark are correct and backed up by official numbers.

Of course the vaccine is reducing the severity of the disease and thats why I got it and will get a booster. In the meantime i am working hard to get my blood pressure down :)

The other measures - masks, the awful Covid passes, closing schools etc seem to have very uneven and unquantifiable results against a disease that comes in waves. A more honest discussion is needed about that - governments seem in denial that the measures they have forced on us are not always effective.

I reluctantly accepted these measures back in Spring 2020 but now there shouls be much more evidence used before wecaccept restrictions again.

news.yahoo.com/florida-now-has-americas-lowest-covid-rate-does-ron-de-santis-deserve-credit-090013615.html?guccounter=1&guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuZ29vZ2xlLnBsLw&guce_referrer_sig=AQAAANymMViUPioh49baahvfFPhuA_Q2DDrxplBf9XPqIf1KQf7Q225iNXGdD-_QM7vzFWIbng6IzTWQCwVpxBgBdohoTWIHCSTRsfy7LC1pft6llK9Fruc4KTlSJ4LdYT7NSoS7HFJBt4CAZJWrDYPybE_FdyqNvv8knLfD7TIkxsuW

jon357
30 Oct 2021  #8272

It you get the jab and get the virus, you are less likely to die.

You can still get the virus if you get the jab, but you are less likely to get it. No different than the flu jab.

Both these statements are absolutely correct. Sadly there are too many 'doctors' on here who studied at the university of google.

mafketis
30 Oct 2021  #8273

Just in time for.....

Day 87 (or 77 or 27)* of the fourth wave...

percent of positive test results: 16.3 % of 59,956 tests...

hospitalization: +428 = 6603

intensive care: + 24 = 545

deaths: 115 (90 with comorbidities)

from the previous day**: seven day moving average of daily deaths + 7 = 74

Currently infected (how ever they happen to calculate that....) some bogus number over 233,000.... (which kind of throws a lot of the other numbers into doubt as well...)

*differing accounts of when the fourth wave began

**the source I use is a day behind and I'm too lazy to calculate on my own

johnny reb
30 Oct 2021  #8274

This is more fun than I deserve. Thank you, JR.

My pleasure, I always enjoy it when someone shuts know it all jon up.

You can still get the virus if you get the jab, but you are less likely to get it.

Who said that you were less likely to get it ? (Sources ?)

Both these statements are absolutely correct.

I agree with them.
Now show us that stats on how many people have died and have had complications like blood clots from the vaccine.
Anybody ?

jon357
30 Oct 2021  #8275

hospitalization: +428 = 6603

So increasing.

It looks like they're starting to be a bit more careful here: "Poland's health minister, Adam Niedzielski, has warned that masking rules will be more strictly enforced amid rapidly rising numbers of coronavirus cases"

notesfrompoland.com/2021/10/29/more-fines-to-be-issued-for-ignoring-masking-rules-in-poland

PolAmKrakow
30 Oct 2021  #8276

@johnny reb
cosmosmagazine.com/health/covid/risk-of-catching-covid-from-an-unvaccinated-person/

johnny reb
30 Oct 2021  #8277

@PolAm
Published: October 29, 2021

SOURCE: BLOOMBERG
People inoculated against Covid-19 are just as likely to spread the delta variant of the virus to contacts in their household as those who haven't had shots, according to new research.

In a yearlong study of 621 people in the U.K. with mild Covid-19, scientists found that their peak viral load was similar regardless of vaccination status, according to a paper published Thursday in The Lancet Infectious Diseases medical journal.

mafketis
30 Oct 2021  #8278

So increasing.

That's why they call it a wave...

just as likely to spread the delta variant of the virus to contacts in their household as those who haven't had shots

Not exactly.... new knowledge (to anyone paying attention).

masking rules will be more strictly enforced

Could hurt the party... almost all those unmasked in public transport where I am are teens/young adults or have that certain je-ne-sais-quoi quality that screams 500+...

jon357
30 Oct 2021  #8279

That's why they call it a wave...

Indeed, and by taking it seriously, we'll hopefully wave it goodbye for now.

almost all those unmasked in public transport

Almost none here, but when I go to the shopping mall, I see the same ting.

cms neuf
30 Oct 2021  #8280

But we took it seriously - business and schools closed for 6 months, staying at home, all leisure cancelled, borders closed. Fine - it's done now but I am not going to do it again. I have the vaccine and that's that


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