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jon357
30 Oct 2021  #8281

But we took it seriously

Which is one of the reasons that wave decreased.

but I am not going to do it again.

Tell that to the cops if you're stopped. Saying online on a forum achieves nothing.

Korvinus
30 Oct 2021  #8282

many 'doctors'

In the lowest tier, you've got hospitals and doctors. They follow the destructive advice of their governmental agencies. This advice boils down to attributing as many deaths as possible to C19, to increase its fear factor. And to collude in increasing "C19" deaths by way of medications which increase the likelihood of the patient towards death. This includes the "vaccines" which make their host more likely to die from C19 and other coronavirus types. Hospitals and doctors are doing this for money. The USA government (and other world governments) incentivized hospitals and doctors via payouts if their patient "dies from C19". For every poor bastard they kill with remdesivir, benzos, and ventilators, they are paid thousands of dollars... as long as the death certificate says C19 as primary cause. To be clear; Hospitals and doctors are willingly murdering people they know they can save with D3+zinc coupled with ivermectin, just for the $$$. They are paid to push the C19 fear agenda for what should be obvious reasons.

cms neuf
30 Oct 2021  #8283

The cops are not going to enforce this, if they do then i will pay the fine - rather thar than stay indoors.

jon357
30 Oct 2021  #8284

The cops are not going to enforce this

They've started today. The article linked to above explains that.

if they do then i will pay the fine

That's a good idea. The consequences of not paying fines are rarely positive. And it's more money into the public treasury when you do.

Korvinus
30 Oct 2021  #8285

IVERMECTIN

"COVID-19 Cases Plummeted in Indonesia After Government Authorized IVERMECTIN For Treatment - Big Pharma Vaccines Made Little Difference"
thegatewaypundit.com/2021/10/update-covid-19-cases-plummeted-indonesia-government-authorized-ivermectin-treatment-big-pharma-vaccines-made-little-difference/

jon357
30 Oct 2021  #8286

Indonesia After Government Authorized IVERMECTIN

Really?

"There have been growing numbers of Indonesians sharing claims about using the anti-parasitic drug, Ivermectin.
Interest surged after local media reports said incorrectly that the Indonesian authorities had granted it emergency approval.
But the drug is still undergoing trials, and is so far unproven as a cure for Covid."
bbc.com/news/world-asia-pacific-57838033


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Korvinus
30 Oct 2021  #8287

But the drug is still undergoing trials

But of course they will fight against it. Why to allow cheep drug that works, if you can have expensive "vaccine" that is killing people.

Jon, I keep wondering, are you being paid for it?

jon357
30 Oct 2021  #8288

But of course they will fight against it.

So clinical trials are "fighting against it"? Interesting.

Do you still stand by your deliberate fake news about "nanotubes" and "unknown life forms"?

cms neuf
30 Oct 2021  #8289

Of course the cost of enforcement will far outweigh the income from fines.

Police diverted from their jobs to enforce random measures that have little effect any hardly any scientific basis. Bring it on - the backlash against that might bring people to their senses

jon357
30 Oct 2021  #8290

Of course the cost of enforcement will far outweigh the income from fines.

That depends on how many tickets they issue. Any financial cost, is of course very secondary to human cost.

random measures

Random?

mafketis
30 Oct 2021  #8291

financial cost, is of course very secondary to human cost

They should have thought about that before following Chinese Communist voodoo pandemic policies....

Police diverted from their jobs to enforce random measures

covid policies, at heart are all about instilling and enforcing austerity, so distracting the police into petty bvllsh[t is totally in line with that goal...

schools, police, the travel and hospitality industries and all sorts of small businesses have paid for the ignorance and/or malice of the current failed elite.

jon357
30 Oct 2021  #8292

They should have thought about that before

Oh Maf, you're starting to sound like Tracy on facebook who has "Love, Life Laugh" on her 'lounge' wall in giant silver-coloured letters and likes Prosecco, cloud eggs, labradoodles and Black Friday discounts. Next, you'll be staring posts with the word "well" and pronouncing foyer to rhyme with lawyer...

What next? Anti-tziganism?

Do you think the government actually wants such severe restrictions on business?

Korvinus
30 Oct 2021  #8293

nanotubes

Nothing fake about it. It is patent lifeforms, by the way.
Jon, why you avoiding question? Are you are a paid shill?

Novichok
30 Oct 2021  #8294

Jon, I keep wondering, are you being paid for it?

Excellent question. Always on the side of the government and the ruling mob - no matter how oppressive.

cms neuf
30 Oct 2021  #8295

Yes random - for instance clothes shops, food shops, churches, discos, restaurants, public transport and sports stadia are all indoor spaces used by adults and they all have different rules about how many people can be there. And the rules change again if you travel from say Cieszyn to Tesin.

Can you explain the science behind that ? Maybe some links to clinical studies ?

Novichok
30 Oct 2021  #8296

Can you explain the science behind that ?

Nobody can. Pure power play plus we are doing "something". And a "sun rise" thing. A government parasite says "sun rise!" and at 6 am the sun does exactly that. That is why we need the Sun Control Department.

johnny reb
30 Oct 2021  #8297

Even some of the Covid scientists have admitted to lying.
Fucci himself has been caught lying several times in his monotone ramblings.
People are hesitant to believe anything anymore.

Excellent question. Always on the side of the government and the ruling mob - no matter how oppressive.

Someone once did suggest his paycheck was signed by George Soros. :-/

jon357
30 Oct 2021  #8298

It is patent lifeforms, by the way.

What are those supposed to be, and why do you think medicines contain them?

and they all have different rules about how many people can be there.

Do you think that's 'random' or a result of discussion?

Korvinus
30 Oct 2021  #8299

What are those supposed to be, and why do you think medicines contain them?

I have explained it in this post:
polishforums.com/news/poland-coronavirus-85511/276/#msg1817020

jon357
30 Oct 2021  #8300

No. You just dribbled out some particularly silly conspiracy woo, irrelevat to the current pandemic and Poland's response to it.

You didn't answer the question I posed in the following post, either. So here it is again:

Where did you do the "vast amount of research" you pretended to have done? On the internet.


PolAmKrakow
30 Oct 2021  #8301

@johnny reb
Again you compare apples to oranges. Spreading COVID and contracting COVID are two different things. And the study I posted proves that vaccination makes you less likely to contract COVID. If someone vaccinated actually does get COVID and they are around other vaccinated people, those people are less likely to contract COVID because they are vaccinated.

Spreading COVID vaccinated or not was not the discussion. We all know it can spread and vaccination protects against death and hospitalization. It is not a cure. No one ever said it was or would be. Stupid people just assumed it would be.

mafketis
30 Oct 2021  #8302

you think the government actually wants such severe restrictions on business?

Some apparently do...

you're starting to sound like Tracy

That Tracy seems like a pretty smart cookie... but don't believe me, what about the word's of Neil "Booty Call" Ferguson himself?

unherd.com/thepost/neil-ferguson-interview-china-changed-what-was-possible/

selected quotes:

"people's sense of what is possible in terms of control changed quite dramatically between January and March"

"It's a communist one party state, we said. We couldn't get away with it in Europe, we thought... and then Italy did it. And we realised we could"

jon357
30 Oct 2021  #8303

Neil "Booty Call" Ferguson himself

I prefer Niall to Neil, however he was being quite neutral, and as far as I'm aware, does not oppose practical precautions in order to save lives and preserve the economy. Though he doesn't always stick to them...

mafketis
30 Oct 2021  #8304

does not oppose practical precautions

That were not part of prepared pandemic response scenarios? On the basis of (what is now known to be) blatantly falsehoods on the part of the Chinese Communist Party?

jon357
30 Oct 2021  #8305

prepared pandemic response scenarios?

Unfortunately, most of those were scrapped due to costs severl tears before.

the Chinese Communist Party

... do not run things here in Europe.

mafketis
30 Oct 2021  #8306

do not run things here in Europe.

are you so sure?

commentaryboxsports.com/discussion-of-xi-jinpings-biography-in-germany-canceled-under-chinese-pressure/

taiwannews.com.tw/en/news/4324629

politico.eu/article/italy-debate-on-charges-of-china-genocide-puts-pressure-on-draghi-coalition/

jon357
30 Oct 2021  #8307

are you so sure?

Yes.

They'd like to (and probably will since they're the only remaining 'superpower'), however the response to the pandemic varies hugely from country to country. Poland's is relatively mild.

mafketis
30 Oct 2021  #8308

Poland's is relatively mild.

To its credit. A lot of tensions between Poland and Western Europe boil down to nation state politics, just at the time when the country is finally able to start building a functional safety net... other countries are busy dismantling theirs in the name of globalism or climate change or covid or austerity.

The welfare state is a product of the nation state period and is dying as the neoliberal bio-security state begins to take its place.

Korvinus
30 Oct 2021  #8309

Interesting study from the University of London that reveals that the official UK "vaxxed vs unvaxxed" numbers are verifiably wrong:

- 10 million people and 1236 deaths are completely missing in the official UK report

- The number of unvaccinated people is grossly underestimated

- This means that the all-cause mortality rates have to be significantly adjusted up for the vaxxed and down for the unvaxxed

- All-cause mortality for the vaccinated is certainly higher in each age group than for the unvaccinated

Discrepancies and inconsistencies in UK Government datasets compromise accuracy of mortality rate comparisons between vaccinated and unvaccinated

researchgate.net/publication/355437113_Discrepancies_and_inconsistencies_in_UK_Government_datasets_compromise_accuracy_of_mortality_rate_comparisons_between_vaccinated_and_unvaccinated

mafketis
30 Oct 2021  #8310

the official UK "vaxxed vs unvaxxed" numbers are verifiably wrong

The vaccines, while probably initially pretty helpful are played out. Getting more shots into more arms by now seems to be a case of diminishing returns.

Chinese Communist pandemic theater methods didn't work and neither have the vaccines. Time to let it take its course. It might be a rough few months but then it will be over.


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