Coronavirus in Poland

In Europe case numbers have soared across the continent, more than 50 percent last month and the worrying trend has continued this month as winter begins to bite.

The WHO said Friday that nearly 2 million cases were reported across Europe in the previous week, the most the region has had in a single week since the pandemic began.

In recent weeks, Germany reported record daily numbers of new infections, with more than 50,000, according to data from Johns Hopkins University.

@johnny reb
Yet, no lockdowns being suggested. I think everyone knows that people wont go for the lockdown again.

Maybe not but Poland may adopt Australia's "over reach."
The head of the Australian Medical Association in Queensland has issued a dark warning to those who refuse anti-Covid vaccination, saying they not only face fines and fraud charges, but will be separated from the rest of society.

"Life will be miserable without being vaccinated. You won't be able to hide."
The medical association president was discussing the future of Queensland residents who decide to dodge a vaccination mandate.
"There's a whole pile of issues, a whole pile of problems if you try and get around the system."
Finding employment will be very hard and you will not be allowed into public facilities or functions.

Well vaccinated won't accept it, but a lockdown for unvaccinated - which has now been introduced in Austria - is certainly on the table.

And how could a political innovation from Austria possibly go wrong?

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Let them rage impotently. Better we act now and lock down those who - against all reason - refuse to get the jab instead of waiting until we have to lock down everyone. The reason why we are in this situation in the first place is due to the unvaccinated people, thus let them suffer the consequences.

This whole vaxx thing is just the introduction to vaccine passport which was on the EU agenda since 2019 and the vaxx passport and covid are themselves being used as a way to introduce people to and banalize population control/surveillance schemes in preparation for the economy reset. In which goings and outings are controlled and the economy relies on people staying at home ordering stuff and consuming virtual goods on metaverses. To save the planet (tm) and to protect us from epidemics (tm).

Heh:) Did you get your 14th jab already?

Vaccinated people can spread the virus too.
More people than not in the hospitals with Covid have been fully vaccinated.
The reason we are in this situation is why was this Covid developed in the first place ?
And why did dr. Fucci help finance it's development ?

Vacccinated people who really believe they are "safe" now are the worst...running around without masks and distance with daily weaker immunisation....mass spreader!

False, at least in Germany we have way more unvaccinated in the hospitals than vaccinated.

@Bratwurst Boy

You are a reasonable person, yet continue to write such nonsense on this issue. Is it maybe your bad conscience and the need to distract from your personal responsibility to shift the blame to people who have in fact done everything to protect others?


Because he is a brilliant scientist who understands the importance of vaccines?

A vaccination is first and foremost self-protection against the virus! That it doesn't work as advertised....well....

But the whole moral thing is so wrong on so many accounts....you surely don't do it for me, as you are still a spreader!

@johnny reb
Not accurate johnny. Most people in hospital are not vaccinated. Easy to look up. As for Fucci, he is a profiteer, like everyone else. Nothing more nothing less.

The most recent figures for Poland don't say anything about hospitalization... they do indicate that over 35 of all infections are in vaccinated people and about 25 of deaths are of vaccinated patients.

It might be that that's primarily a function of age (since the worst affected by covid are the elderly who are also more vaccinated) but without raw data there's no way to tell and I'm very skeptical of almost anything apart from raw numbers by now.

He sure the F does now !
NO Tac, anything but brilliant .....
what I meant was why did Fauci help finance the development of COVID to start all of this, not the vaccine after the fact.
Dr. Fauci was appointed director of NIAID in 1984.
Fauci LIED and got caught red handed lying.
The National Institutes of Health (NIAID) has stunningly admitted to funding gain-of-function research on bat coronaviruses at China's Wuhan lab despite dr. Anthony Fauci repeatedly insisting to Congress that no such thing happened.

Fauci lied about that, lied about masks, lied about the vaccine, lied about, medical ventilator, lied just about everything hasn't he.
A top official at the National Institutes of Health has conceded that contrary to the repeated assertions of dr. Anthony Fauci, the NIH did indeed fund highly dangerous gain-of-function research on bat-borne coronaviruses in the Wuhan Institute of Virology.

It does though. It decreases your risk of getting hospitalized and dying by up to 95%. It also decreases the risk of infecting others since the viruses you carry are less active.


Dr Fauci is one of the most distinguished immunologists alive.


Yes but

- I am less infectious than unvaccinated people
- me being less at risk means my place at an ICU goes to someone else, ideally someone with a compromised immune system who is not properly protected by the vaccine

- if everyone was vaccinated, even super spreaders would no longer be an issue, since only a small fraction of the people infected will get seriously ill

- ultimately getting infected is the realistic outcome for anyone unvaccinated who does not live a very, very isolated life. You will get Covid down the line, be it in 1 week, 1 month or 1 year. The only question is how serious your illness will be, which again, the vaccine would reduce significantly.

A distinguished liar.


I stand correct as since those numbers were corrected to 40%.
Later corrected that 60 percent statistic saying, "About 60% of hospitalisations from covid are not from double vaccinated people, rather 60% of hospitalisations from covid are currently from unvaccinated people."

So 40% of the people in the hospitals suffering from Covid are double vaccinated which still makes my point.
Thanks for pointing that out to us PolAm.

...recently....during the Karneval in Cologne....everybody there was vaccinated (it was told)....I'm sure the virus had a party too!


.....since these vaccinations lose their effect millions of people will need continously to be vaccinated....again and again and again....that everybody is safely vaccinated at the same time will never happen, don't you see that?


...there is hope for better medicine in the mean time though! :)
Maybe even real vaccinations and a cure...

@mafketis
35% is not a majority. Everyone will get it eventually. Vaccination is a greater chance of survival only. What is so difficult to understand?

The more pressure the more suspicion.....especially if there is additionally the moral club being used....if that is all so great this pressure wouldn't be necessary, wouldn't it...but so....something smells!

I agree, EVERYONE sooner or later will catch Covid.
I was the first one to predict that at the beginging of this thread 18 months ago.


For those over 60 years old and with underlying causes.


We are in the same boat, jump in and grab an oar.
Who is really behind this Cluster F ?

Already loads of young and healthy people have been killed by the shots, people who never, ever would have died of covid. Also the experiment has only just begun, the slower developing effects are still to come, like cancers and autoimmune diseases. Even if no one else would die from the shots after this, the harms already outweight the benefits.

for high risk people yes, for healthy 30 year olds and younger.... not necessarily

for under 12's absolutely not

After a formal demand, the CDC concedes it does not have proof of a single instance of a naturally immune individual spreading the virus.
You would think that if the CDC was going to demoralize the civil and individual rights of those with natural immunity by having them expelled from school, fired from their jobs, separated from the military, and worse, the CDC would have proof of at least one instance of an unvaccinated, naturally immune individual transmitting the COVID-19 virus to another individual.

If you thought this, you would be wrong.

today's numbers

20.1 percent of 82,760 tests biggest number of tests in a long time, not that high a percent positive results - good

hospitalized: 14,906

ICU: 1270

daily deaths: 282 (212 with co-morbidities)

7 day average deaths: 160

Remember how we were told a bunch of contradictory things about the vaccine ?

Trump is behind it, so it's bad.
Now Biden's sort of president, so vaccines are good and will totally protect you.
In fact, they are so good we are demanding that you take them.
And natural immunity is not a thing.
And side effects are not a thing either.
But but but no one ever said that vaccines will totally protect you.
Vaccines only make the diseases you get less bad.
How could you ever think we meant the vaccine meant you couldn't get it or spread it when we told you that ?
Now, everyone must get a vaccine that fails to protect others to protect others.... wait, what ?

@johnny reb
I remember people here wanting to credit Trump for the vaccine. Now the same people want to blame Biden. That is the joke of all this BS disinformation. Same people changing message over and over.

No one cares anymore who gets the vaccine and who doesn't accept people obsessed with disinformation from both sides. Neither side is really arguing that the vaccines are saving lives. All they want to argue about is politics and the ages who receive them.

Well, it has always been up to parents on vaccinations, and schools in nearly every state have mandatory vaccinations, so its nothing new. Dont want to do it, ok, then home school. As a business owner I have every right to mandate vaccination, or mandate no one can be vaccinated, its my private business. The real problem is both sides want to control everything because when it comes down to it, they are control freaks.

So, I will continue to go about doing my own thing and dont GAF what anyone else does or doesnt do.

I am in agreement with you PolAm.
Can we just end this Covid nonsense now, or do some people have such empty lives that they can't get beyond this ridiculous societal spasm because they need it to give their existence meaning ?

Sadly, they do, and you can see them licking their thin lips at the thought of more lockdowns.
Except I am sick, pardon the expression, of having my life disrupted by their personal psychodramas.
I get that this silly pandemic has been the most exciting, edgy, and interesting thing that will ever happen to many of our fellow citizens.

It's been their chance to cocoon in their condos watching Netflix and feeling like they are cheating death.
But to the rest of us, it's a pain in the Schumer and we've gone along with the whining sissies for too long.

The pandemic is over !
We won so deal with it.

It may still protect you from getting seriously ill and suffering long-term aftereffects. My former classmate, 30 years old, got Covid half a year ago. She did not have to go to the hospital, but she ended up losing her sense of smell and has yet to recover. My aunt is a teacher and there was a Covid outbreak in her classroom a few months ago and a lot of the pupils tested positive... Nobody got seriously ill, but three boys ended up losing their sense of smell and in one case, taste. Imagine this, losing your sense of smell and taste before you got to drink your first glass of fine red wine... or Cuban whisky. Harsh. Many people still think that getting Covid is just a lottery between life and death, with the odds heavily stacked towards life in most cases. Which is true to a certain degree, but you have to roll the dice several times for possible aftereffects as well, many of which are not pretty.

Interesting snippet from the "Vaccines and Related Biological Products Advisory Committee October 26, 2021 Meeting Document":
"The number of participants in the current clinical development program is too small to detect any potential risks of myocarditis associated with vaccination. Long-term safety of COVID-19 vaccine in participants 5 to <12 years of age will be studied in 5 post-authorization safety studies, including a 5-year follow-up study to evaluate long term sequelae of post-vaccination myocarditis/pericarditis."

source: fda.gov/media/153409/download

So the FDA advisory committee admits they don't know how bad they are messing up kids' hearts with these jabs, and won't have any usable body of evidence until at least five years of doing so has passed. This means the USA government's policy is presently, "Just inject your kids and we'll see what happens."

Further illustrating how stupid they think the populace is, they tell us guinea pigging our kids will stop inflation:

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