Coronavirus in Poland

To those thinking that vaccination is a way out of the current mess, I give you Ireland... 93 % of adults vaccinated and... restrictions are comin' back...

polsatnews.pl/wiadomosc/2021-11-16/zaszczepili-93-proc-doroslych-mieszkancow-teraz-przywracaja-restrykcje/?ref=aside_najnowsze

Not to be outdone is Gibraltar, the most vaccinated place on earth (279 shots per 100 residents) is cancelling Christmas amidst an upsurge in cases....

express.co.uk/news/uk/1521786/Gibraltar-news-covid-cases-rise-Christmas-lockdown

Does anyone still believe the vaccination programs are about health?

HA ! "May" is the key word there.
Let me be the first one to tell you vaccine gods that these vaccines ARE NOT SAFE.

ft.com/content/f04ac67b-92e4-4bab-8c23-817cc0483df5

Switzerland is part of a cluster of wealthy - and predominantly German-speaking - European nations at the heart of Europe with surprisingly poor vaccination rates. In neighbouring Austria, 33.1 per cent have yet to take a single shot of the vaccine, and in Germany it is 30.4 per cent. Case numbers are surging in all three countries.

The high levels of hesitancy, evident among adults of all age groups and political persuasions, have increased scrutiny of the factors driving vaccine scepticism in German-speaking countries.

Who would have thought that.....the Germans (and German speaking peoples) are the rebels of Europe!!! Heh:)

@johnny reb
The virus is not safe either. So, given the choice, again "choice" is the key word, I will take the "risk" of the jab and having more freedom over more lockdowns. My choice. Which is what all of this should be. Every business owner should be able to enforce his or her own policy as well. I dont know why more "unvaccinated" specialty business operations are not popping up. I would be driving down to Texas and other places and opening those places for sure. Yes, I know capitalistic scum. If others are making money on it, why not?

Did you miss the link about Gibraltar?

express.co.uk/news/uk/1521786/Gibraltar-news-covid-cases-rise-Christmas-lockdown

today's numbers

25.0 percent of 96,830

hospitalized: 15,316

ICU: 1326

daily deaths: 463 (339 with co-morbidities) can we talk about vaccine failure yet or do we still have to pretend they work?

7 day average deaths: 168

More like the idiots of Europe. Now to be fair, only the smaller part of us are idiots, enough to drag the rest of us down with them. That people celebrate their own ignorance is the icing of the cake.

They're not like the super-vaccinated people of Gibraltar who've said goodbye forever to restric...... oh.

No one wants to talk about Ireland and Gibraltar...... really?

@mafketis
Did not miss it and I am not in Gibraltar so it is not my problem. Lockdown in Poland and the country will implode economically. PiS even knows this. But once again PiS raised gas prices over 6 a liter now in a self defeating move.

I am looking at countries similar to Germany like Italy and France and how they are doing thanks to their high vaccination rate (much better). Meanwhile some regions in Germany approaching the need for Triage. What is there to talk about about Ireland?

. Ireland has not hit the vaccination (above 90%) that is required to safely lift all restrictions and is now paying the price. We will not get out of this unless we either heavily and permanently restrict the movement of unvaccinated people for probably the next year or more, or get vaccination rates up to 95%.

Honestly I don't get it. We have a vaccine that is safe to use and decreases your risk considerably, yet instead of being grateful, people complain that it does not offer 100% protection. Well, there is no 100% safety in anything you in life, but you can influence the odds in your favour. Honestly, in hindsight we must be grateful that a few decades ago, even democratic states were more assertive when implemementing their vaccine programs. We would not be able to eradicate smallpox again in the world we live in today.

You have no idea if they are safe or not.
You only repeat what you have been brainwashed with. Baaaa Baaaaa


Hope that works out for you Sheep down the road.
Why is it that so many doctors, nurses and first responders are refusing the vaccine to the point of giving up their careers ?
My "choice" is that lockdowns don't effect my life, all that much, to take the "risk" of the unknown jab.
I am not a money grubber and have a whole different outlook on life than money money money as a priority.
Tell me how lockdowns effected my life besides international travel verses getting booted up with an EXPERIMENTAL foreign substance injected into my body with NO data of what it is doing or will do to me in the long term.

Mark my word that you will soon be hearing just how dangerous these vaccines are.
They still haven't told us what all is in them have they.
Why is that ?
And they are very sketchy on how they work for the good and nothing yet for the bad.
Sorry PolAm, I won't trade my freedom for your freedoms.

@johnny reb
And I wont give up my freedom for other people who wont get the vaccine. Where are the mass deaths from hundreds of millions of vaccinations? I mean more deaths than from COVID. They do not exist and will not exist.

All the medical people not getting the jab dont mean anything to me. Its their choice. People believe what they want to believe. I dont believe in green men or the moon being a martian outpost, but I do not criticize those who do, its their choice. The overwhelming majority of medical people got the jab.

I do know that in Spain where vaccination rates are about 90% there is no surge. Everything is open and nothing has changed since June. I was there in July and had a great time. May go back next month just for the food. I can do that because I got the jab, and I will get a booster of the J&J jab that is not mRNA. No nanotubes in there I am sure. While people who dont travel, dont want to travel, or dont care about having healthy social lives outside of the house, can choose to not get the vaccine and live at home. Their choice and I support their right to choose.

Ireland has over 90 percent vaccinated.

With the vaccine wearing off in 3-4 months then the only way to reach the new goalpost of 95 percent is by vaccinating 5 percent of the population every week. Forever.

I have just got a clean test after a thankfully mild case of covid but I was double vaxxed and still lost my sense of smell. I support the vaccine and will get a booster. Its concerning however that (apart from Maf), people don't want to engage with the fact that the vaccine is not the alpha and omega of the story. It gave us back some control but not enough to end this.

Why do people seem to ignore where and who started the virus.
Fun fact, the funding for the Wuhan project in China was not only our scientists in China but it was funded by the U.S. on Chinese soil.

The funding started in 2014 under obama with Fucci channeling the funds.
And that is the who and how the China flu originated.
Neat stuff right out there for people to read but they never pay attention.

There is this medicine named"AMANTIX"100mg,that is very popular in Poland for covid.I know at least 4/5 people who have recovered after testing positive for Covid.Even some Poles in States have asked me to bring it for them.My wifes friend also recovered taking it.A Polish doctor found it and plenty are getting treated with it.

Its good to have it home.

@johnny reb
I still call it the China virus. Dont GAF if its not politically correct.

@cms neuf
Good to hear it was a mild case. I am getting a booster next month too.

We know, you have posted that relentlessly.


Better yet, where did anyone say any such thing ?


Puts up a red flag for me as they are the educated ones.


What projections on your part PolAm.
I already said that I have no problem giving up international travel as a trade off but besides that I still have a healthy social life outside my home.

Your problems are your problems, and I am not going to stay in my house because you can't stay out of Golden Corral.
Free the kids from the tyranny of COVID fanatic schools.
Free citizens from the tyranny of vaccine fascists who think choice means killing babies but not declining shots.
Free everyone from stupid rules that amount to ritual toobining, delivering only mild transitory pleasure to bossy people unable to obtain pleasure through dignified pursuits.

It's time to live again, and just because your social life consists of filling your talkslot with restaurant food and booze doesn't mean that is everyone's social life.

that's the whole point, there will never be 'enough' vaccinations to get back to 2019 normal reality.... it ends when people (the people) decide it ends and not when 'enough' people have gotten another round of booster shots (which will never end... what motivation does big pharma have to let it ever end?)

if Gibraltar and Ireland are vaccinated 'enough' then no country ever will be... wishing that it were otherwise is a waste of time

Yes it has. It stood at over 90% back in September and restrictions weren't fully lifted until 22 October.

According to the public health team in Ireland, the reason for the surge in cases is increased socializing, especially amongst younger people since the reopening of bars and nightclubs a few weeks ago.


The problem that I see is the never-ending boosters. It's just doesn't feel right to keep pumping stuff into your body every few months. Something very disturbing about it. And a 95% vaccination rate is only possible in a handful of developed nations. It's simply never going to happen in most of the world, so the virus and its many mutations will continue to spread.

@johnny reb
Its simple. If the vaccinations are so dangerous and deadly like some pundits would say, where are the millions of deaths? IF its deadly, or more dangerous than the virus, just prove it. So the numbers, and show the science. Why is that so difficult. One in a million chances are not danger, they are freak accidents.

I completely agree with you if you read my posts. I dont care who is vaccinated or not vaccinated. I made my choice so leave me alone. You made yours and should be left alone. The government has no business in my health care.

That said, as a private person, every private person who owns a business should be able to continue to make his own policy regarding covid. It is again, none of the governments business. If you dont want unvaccinated people in your place, then thats your right. If you dont want vaccinated people, or people with masks on, thats your right too.

All the extremism and completely fake news from both sides is just irritating now. Its noise and it needs a filter.

less than a month ago? that's pretty pathetic....


thank you!!!! so many here seem to have signed up to the eternal booster club.... and let's not worry about anything like a Marek scenario...


danmmed younger people and their "socializing" in "bars" and "nightclubs"....

in more serious news, the current 7 day average of daily deaths for Ireland is..... 11..... that's what they're locking down over?

Well it's not actually a lockdown. It's just bars and clubs closing by midnight and work from home - oh, and Covid passes for cinemas and theatres.


It is.

And even though the public health team says the surge is due to increased socializing, an immunologist from Trinity College Dublin says that 'we simply don't know' what's causing it. He said that the biggest surprise is that immunity against Covid-19 wanes so quickly.


I would say it's almost unprecedented to keep needing to be reinoculated so often against any disease. I would be very worried about doing such a thing. How do we know what repercussions it may have for people's health in the future? Far too dangerous I think.

There's no evidence at all that this is due to vaccinations.

Now you have to push new propaganda that kids have strokes, it's normal to have a massive heart attack when you are 20 years old and fit.

I see that coming from you only.

And there's no evidence that heart attacks in Scotland are due to any specific medication.


How are your 'nanobots' and 'unknown life forms'?

Here's the FDA and the Pfizer god's study on children getting the shot.



It shows that 86% of the children suffered an adverse reaction to the shot. According to you this is normal.

Heart attacks, strokes, and death of children are all perfectly normal as it shows their immune system is working right. Maybe if you recite your prayer that this will change.

Saint Fauci's Prayer to the Vaccine Gods Pfizer, Moderna, and AstraZeneca

Our Fauci, which art in Rockville Maryland,
Hallowed be thy Name.
Thy vaccines come.
Thy injections will be done on Earth,
As it is in Rockville.
Give us our tri-yearly shots.
And protect us from our infections,
As we spew hatred at the unvaxxed that infect us.
And lead us not into the Emergency Department,
But deliver us from the virus.
For thine is the NIAD,
The vaccine, and the money,
For ever and ever.
Amen

A tale in three parts...

walesonline.co.uk/news/wales-news/mark-drakeford-says-covid-restrictions-20862713

itv.com/news/wales/2021-11-16/first-minister-defends-extention-of-covid-pass-to-enter-smaller-venues-in-wales

nation.cymru/news/watch-first-minister-shakes-a-leg-at-diwali-celebration/

When do you get the feeling you're being lied to?

And show me where I said they were deadly killing MILLIONS.
Insinuating that someone said something that they didn't to re enforce your opinion is at jon's immature level.
A little over 6,000 people have died from the covid vaccine.
A very small number UNLESS you are one of them. :-/
And we have no idea what the long term effects will be from these EXPERIMENTAL vaccines because there is no data on that, YET.

@Korvinus
So, no. No evidence that heart attacks in Scotland are caused by any particular medication. Your table refers to redness at injection sites. Normal enough.

Oh, o.k., jon.
Maybe you would like to read this then.
Heart Attacks Up 25% In Scotland Since Covid Jabs Were Introduced, Media Plays Dumb As To Why

brudirect.com/news.php?id=129318