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jon357
17 Nov 2021  #8581

A weird website from Borneo claiming/pretending that the media is 'playing dumb'...

Or perhaps there's just no evidence at all linking heart disease in Scotland to amy particular medication...

I prefer NHS Scotland on the matter:

Scotland has a high prevalence of the risk factors associated with heart disease, such as smoking, poor diet and physical inactivity.

Or even The Times (where the original screenshot came from:

Poor diet and stress during the pandemic are likely to have caused a spike in heart attacks in Scotland

thetimes.co.uk/article/rise-in-heart-attacks-attributed-to-pandemic-stress-and-poor-diet-gdpn5bcgd

johnny reb
17 Nov 2021  #8582

A weird website

Well of course that is your standard response when you get proven wrong.
It is a weird website or a right-winged website or an un credible website because jon says so. lol

perhaps there's just no evidence at all linking heart disease in Scotland to amy particular medication...

That is possible but the Covid vaccine isn't what someone would call "medication."

I prefer NHS Scotland on the matter:

Really, jon ?
Perhaps you would like to tell us with a source just what NHS Scotland says on the matter.

jon357
17 Nov 2021  #8583

when you get proven wrong.

Don't be silly. It's a completely unproven wild claim made on a website in Borneo.

And you're trolling, as usual.

that is possible

That is accurate. There is no evidence to link heart disease in Scotland to any particular medication. Unless you know of something that the hospitals don't.

Novichok
17 Nov 2021  #8584

From:

abcnews.go.com/Health/vermont-highest-vaccination-rate-country-cases-surging/story?id=81090116

Vermont has the highest vaccination rate in the country. So why are cases surging?
In Vermont, nearly 72% of residents are fully vaccinated against COVID-19 -- more than any other state, according to U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention data. At the same time, it has the 12th-highest rate of new COVID-19 cases over the last week, state data released Tuesday shows.


I am so glad that they can't bullsh*it us anymore how effective lockdowns, masks, and those jabs are. Dr. Novichok's recommendation to just let it rip was brilliant in its simplicity. Few things are sicker than the idea of "spending whatever it takes" on the fatsos who didn't give a damn about their own health and now expect society to pick up the tab.

johnny reb
17 Nov 2021  #8585

And you're trolling, as usual.

And you are avoiding answering my questions.

Perhaps you would like to tell us with a source just what NHS Scotland says on the matter.

Cat got your tongue ?

jon357
17 Nov 2021  #8586

There's actually a quote posted above from NHS Scotland themselves about heart disease in Scotland. Jim probably missed it.

And he still hasn't provided even the slightest information to suggest that heart attacks there are caused by any oarticular medication.

As I said earlier, trolling.

It would be laughable if the situation wasn't so serious.

Novichok
17 Nov 2021  #8587

This quote says it all...that God and Darwin are right:

Regarding the recent case surge, Vermont may also be a "victim of our success," Levine said Tuesday, pointing to a lack of natural COVID-19 immunity among unvaccinated residents "because we kept the virus at such low levels throughout the entire pandemic."

Yes, purity idiots, this is what happens when you live in a HAZMAT suit and rub that stupid disinfectant every five minutes because you touched something. A little dirt, bacteria, and the virus are good for you...

johnny reb
18 Nov 2021  #8588

he still hasn't provided even the slightest information to suggest that heart attacks there are caused by any oarticular medication.

I ask you first and you still are deflecting and I do believe I did provide information, jon.

Heart Attacks Up 25% In Scotland Since Covid Jabs Were Introduced, Media Plays Dumb As To Why

Perhaps you would like to tell us with a source just what NHS Scotland says on the matter.

Since you claim to favor the NHS then what do they say about the connections of heart attacks and the vaccine, jon.

jon357
18 Nov 2021  #8589

heart attacks

NHS Scotland and the heart attacks in Western Scotland?

Nothing of course.

For the third time (can you read or can't you?) there is nothing to suggest that heart attacks there are caused by any oarticular medication.

Cargo pants
18 Nov 2021  #8590

you live in a HAZMAT suit and rub that stupid disinfectant

And to travel one still have to get a covid test even if you are fully vaccinated and wear the mask for 10 hours on airport and in the flight.

mafketis
18 Nov 2021  #8591

today's numbers

25.0 percent of 99,507

hospitalized: 15,713

ICU: 1345

daily deaths: 370 (270 with co-morbidities)

7 day average deaths: 197

Special good news... 30% of those who died yesterday (total 463) were.... fully vaccinated. But vaccines don't fail, they can only be failed.

johnny reb
18 Nov 2021  #8592

Fauci Admits Covid Vax Doesn't Work
And it seems that Fauci isn't the only one who is saying that the vaccine is becoming not only useless, but dangerous to the health of the general public.

Listen to for yourself what Fauci said and then read the feedback to inform yourselves.

republicaninsider.org/fauci-admits-covid-vax-doesnt-work/

PolAmKrakow
18 Nov 2021  #8593

There is no quote anywhere from Fauci. Nothing, nowhere, and not even in this rag you posted is there a quote. Nothing in the NY times, nothing remotely close to this reported anywhere.

Stop with the disinformation campaign already. That article is nothing but unsubstantiated opinion. Really this is getting annoying.

Novichok
18 Nov 2021  #8594

Really this is getting annoying.

Technically, you are correct.

Tactically, we have a moral right to lie about the covid ruling mob as much as the covid ruling mob has been lying to us.

Don't ignore that our main enemy is not the virus. It's those who profit from it and their covid enforcers and enablers.

PolAmKrakow
18 Nov 2021  #8595

@Novichok
I am trying to figure out a way to make some money on it before it looses steam.

Novichok
18 Nov 2021  #8596

I wish you the best. Just be aware that it's not the "pandemic" but another kind of war between the 0.1% and the rest of us.

The super irony is how the covid mob and their enablers were screaming "cases, cases, cases..." to justify their Gestapo actions - only to be victims of their own propaganda with the fourth wave of "cases" proving that nothing that they forced us to do really worked. If it did, there would not be waves and "cases"...

johnny reb
18 Nov 2021  #8597

That article is nothing but unsubstantiated opinion. Really this is getting annoying.

UNSUBSTANTIATED ! LMFAO
Why in the hell are you trying to discredit a video of Fauci speaking and admitting it.
Are you deaf ?

Nothing in the NY times, nothing remotely close to this reported anywhere.

Well of course not, Pol, the jewyork times is a Liberal rag owned by the jews.
Would you expect anything different ?
And yes there are several sources that reported this much to your disliking.
Have just been brainwashed, by the Left, to the point like jon, to call any source you disagree with a not credible rag.
Now, you heard Fauci say it with the words coming out of his mouth (or was that video fake too ?) so please stop annoying us with your pompous Liberal diminishing fodder.

PolAmKrakow
18 Nov 2021  #8598

@johnny reb
Big difference between waning immunity and not working. Get some comprehension. Not working "as advertised" but still working. Oh well. There is zero credible evidence of anything you are saying about vaccination not working. They work. They save lives. Sure you need a booster. Just like a lot of other vaccinations tetanus shots come to mind. Chickenpox, rubella, mumps and measles also come to mind.

Liberal? Not me buddy. Just not crazy, and not one who believes in conspiracy. Educated, irritated, and intolerant to stupidity. Close the borders, stop immigration, stop unregulated abortion, all those great ideals. But there is no way in hell Trump won, or that vaccinations are not safe.

Novichok
18 Nov 2021  #8599

Hey, guys, there is a simple rule that works every time...

If it's about the swamp being crooks and conniving liars, it's true. Fauci is so swamp I can smell it. Period.

The only question worth asking is if we are seeing the whole iceberg or just the top 10%. My bet is on the top 10%.

Tacitus
18 Nov 2021  #8600

Out of curiosity, are there any physicians who work with ICU patients publically speaking out about the reality they are facing?

In Germany we had one talking during a popular talk show about his experience... listening to him was brutal and haunting. Having to tell patients on a constant basis that you have to intubate them, with them only having a 50% of waking up afterwards... you have to tell them that they ought to call their loved ones before they are sedated, and you often witness how they say goodbye... Just horrifying... So much needless suffering, pain and sadness because people refuse the vaccine... . He was talking about a patient who was just over 50 and who had a son and wife and was in very good shape before contracting the virus and it is still unclear if he will survive.

Joker
18 Nov 2021  #8601

Hey Rich,
I just went thru a bank drive thru teller in Schaumburg. He opened the drawer, I put my check and ID in the slot and he put on a mask and closed it! Lol Hes behind bulletproof glass and I'm sitting on my truck! Too funny, must be a democrat!😆

johnny reb
18 Nov 2021  #8602

In an interview, Bill Gates said the following: "We didn't have vaccines that block transmission. We got vaccines that help you with your health, but they only slightly reduce the transmission. We need new ways of doing vaccines."

So why is Bill Gates pivoting on existing Covid vaccines ?
Gates has benefited enormously from lockdowns and vaccine mandates, both seeing his former company grow to enormous size and from his stock ownership in vaccine makers.

So yes, his ignorance has been rewarded handsomely.

Novichok
18 Nov 2021  #8603

Too funny, must be a democrat!😆

I see these idiots every day. Yesterday, I was walking down the aisle in Jewel and a woman covered her infant in a buggy for those two seconds I was close. I was just walking by. No sneezing, no coughing, no spitting or vomiting but, to that moron (1) I was a threat, and (2) that cover make me not a threat.

So yes, his ignorance has been rewarded handsomely.

Swamp learned how to fake it to make room for plausible deniability when their cover is blown wide open.

pawian
18 Nov 2021  #8604

to that moron (1) I was a threat,

Try to be more understanding - she relied on her sixth sense. According to it, you were a threat. Simple.

johnny reb
19 Nov 2021  #8605

Try to be more understanding

Absolutely as I wear my muzzle in public to avoid the flu, not covid.
There were over 500 students this week at the U of M come down with the flu.
The flu is running ramped in Michigan right now.
So who knows why the mother did what she did as there could have been a dozen reasons why.
Maybe the baby had covid and the mother didn't want her baby coughing on you.

Novichok
19 Nov 2021  #8606

Michigan is going through the fourth wave that is just as bad as the third one and 60 dead per day. This is serious and proof that the Michigan covid Gestapo and your cute Hitler accomplished nothing with the lockdowns, masks, and that idiotic ban on boating.

johnny reb
19 Nov 2021  #8607

What I don't understand is with the thousands and thousands of people testing positive every day for the last two years and the thousands and thousands that get it that don't get tested or report it.......doesn't it seem like we should have herd immunity by now ?

mafketis
19 Nov 2021  #8608

today's numbers

24.8 percent of 93,721

hospitalized: 16,093

ICU: 1381

daily deaths: 403 (285 with co-morbidities)

7 day average deaths: 210

Tacitus
19 Nov 2021  #8609

we should have herd immunity by now ?

Poland had like 3m cases, which is less than 10% of the entire population. For herd immunity, you need 95% vaccinated, do the math. Not to mention that having suffered through an "original" Covid infection does not necessarily protect you from the new variant, as Brazil has shown.

mafketis
19 Nov 2021  #8610

. For herd immunity, you need 95% vaccinated

When and how was this number determined? Please note that Gibraltar (279 injections per 100 residents) does not have herd immunity...


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