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Bratwurst Boy
26 Nov 2021  #8821

I guess you haven't heard about the new 'African variant' of Covid that is resistant to the vaccines.

Funny.....a german media reports today that the vaccines in Germany weren't even updated against the Delta mutation! Meaning people even now get still jabbed against the original variant from Wuhan.

welt.de/wirtschaft/plus235257136/Corona-Impfstoffe-Keine-Anpassung-an-Delta-Warum-wir-noch-gegen-die-Wuhan-Variante-boostern.html

Who cares about that newest mutation from South Africa....

Novichok
26 Nov 2021  #8822

My covid prayer: God, if you let them discover that viral plagues are caused by migrants...I will repent and be yours forever.

Bratwurst Boy
26 Nov 2021  #8823

....aaaaand it's here!

Belgium reports first case of that new african mutation...

bild.de/politik/2021/politik/corona-variante-aus-suedafrika-jetzt-in-europa-belgien-meldet-ersten-fall-78362734.bild.html

My that was fast!

Belgian Health Minister confirms one case of new Covid strain. Person traveled to Belgium from abroad, was unvaccinated and hadn't previously had Covid. Tested positive on Nov. 22nd.

twitter.com/laurnorman/status/1464218631060004901

johnny reb
26 Nov 2021  #8824

They should have a new experimental vaccine out for us to try for them soon so no worry.
Nothing to see here, keep moving.

cms neuf
26 Nov 2021  #8825

But surely some of the 105k people who were tested yesterday either think they might have COVID or have been exposed ?

I don't doubt the govt number is too low and for sure more tests means more cases (though when Trump said that he was mocked). But is the true number really 5x as high ?

If so then it means in 330 days everyone will have had COVID

But I suspect in 330 days we will be talking about booster 5 and a new variant which is the worst ever

johnny reb
26 Nov 2021  #8826

How do you control the Sheep ?
With fear & food.
Baaaaa Baaaaa
Independence Criminalized.

Israel Is on the Verge of a State of Emergency Over Variant
Israeli Prime Minister Bennett speaks at a news conference (1 minute video)

msn.com/en-us/news/world/israel-is-on-the-verge-of-a-state-of-emergency-over-variant-pm-bennett-says/vi-AARatcM?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=U531

All I know is that it sure is taking a toll on the stock markets today ! :-(

jon357
26 Nov 2021  #8827

What surprises me the most about the Mu variant is how quickly the UK government reacted. Normally they drag their heels a bit, however this time they acted within a few hours. This isn't a good sign.

Bratwurst Boy
26 Nov 2021  #8828

Germany is panicking too.....it's the "worst" ever!

jon357
26 Nov 2021  #8829

worst

There's certainly more concern about it than we've seen before.

I just hope it doesn't **** up my travel plans which over the next few weeks are complicated.

Joker
26 Nov 2021  #8830

Mu variant is how quickly the UK government reacted.

Im sure sleepy Joe will live up to his name, thats of course, after he calls it racist.

Once again, I would like to thank the Commie Chinks for destroying everyones lives.

Biden was too chicken to bring it up with his Overlord Xi last week over the phone.

johnny reb
26 Nov 2021  #8831

I just hope it doesn't **** up my travel plans

Headline news in America
BRUSSELS (AP) - A slew of nations moved to stop air travel from southern Africa on Friday, and stocks plunged in Asia and Europe in reaction to news of a new, potentially more transmissible Covid-19 variant.

"The last thing we need is to bring in a new variant that will cause even more problems," said German Health Minister Jens Spahn, amid a massive spike in cases in the 27-nation European Union, which is recommending a ban on flights from Africa".

jon357
26 Nov 2021  #8832

bring in a new varian

It's apparently in Brussels already. Two cases detected only so far.
telegraph.co.uk/global-health/science-and-disease/covid-new-south-african-variant-strain-lockdown-restrictions/

Korvinus
26 Nov 2021  #8833

Sadly nobody ever thinks about "how" theses priest of science discover new "variants".

"They just take a nasal swab and then put it in the sequencing machine".

No.

They just make an educated guess. There's your variant.

mu

jon357
26 Nov 2021  #8834

theses priest of science

Doctors?

educated

This is the key.

mafketis
26 Nov 2021  #8835

For the week November 12-19, in Poland
New cases: 31.8 % fully vaccinated

For the week November 19-26...
New cases: 43.5 % fully vaccinated

Are these 'vaccines' (most of which aren't vaccines in any traditional sense) really something to bet the house on?

Novichok
26 Nov 2021  #8836

which is recommending a ban on flights from Africa".

...except migrants and "refugees".
Aren't migrants and "refugees" fun? Especially when they bring new and even more exciting viruses with them.

jon357
26 Nov 2021  #8837

really something to bet the house on

It isn't 'betting the house' as such. More utilising every possible line of defence. Layers of protection, none of which are on their own a complete answer, all of which together however maximise protection.

These are difficult times, and it's looking now as if it's getting harder. Nobody said it would be easy.

Novichok
26 Nov 2021  #8838

More utilising every possible line of defence.

Bullsh*it! Your Channel shores are wide open, leftist!

Nobody said it would be easy.

Crap again... They told us that if we get vaccinated all restrictions will be lifted. You are lying.

PolAmKrakow
26 Nov 2021  #8839

@mafketis
And how many are dying? The majority about 90% are unvaccinated, and 80% in hospital are unvaccinated. So now the infected numbers really mean nothing. Its hospitalization and dead that matter. So, again, vaccination keeping people from hospital and dying as promised. Looks like its working pretty well if you know how to add, subtract, and multiply while using reading comprehension.

jon357
26 Nov 2021  #8840

"They told us that if we get vaccinated all restrictions will be lifted"
Nobody ever said that. This is about lines of defence against hospitalisations and deaths.

Bullsh*it!

You are lying.

Crap

Learn some manners or stay silent. As the quote goes Milcz, głupi chłopie! Milcz, chamie skończony

mafketis
26 Nov 2021  #8841

And how many are dying?

For the last week 19-26, 29,69 % of deaths were of fully vaccinated people. This could be (probably is) due to the fact that the oldest segment of the population (the most vulnerable) is the most heavily vaccinated too and the deaths might be more related to other factors, but.... who knows?

I don't know about figures of hospitalized vaccinated (though I personally know of a couple of cases).

mafketis
26 Nov 2021  #8842

it's looking now as if it's getting harder

the bad cat is unimpressed:

boriquagato.substack.com/p/botaswana-b11529-variant-histrionics

pay attention to the raw data charts halfway through the article...

summary: "it's simple: SA is coming into season. delta burned itself out there. a new variant is becoming dominant.... we have no proof it's more contagious and good reason to suspect as a base prior that it's milder than delta.

we're not being threatened by a new plague of virus, just the same old plague of incompetent hysterics determined once more to drive the world into a ditch because it gets them power and grant money"

jon357
26 Nov 2021  #8843

That's a very very cynical view, and a link to a questionable source.

Governments would do anything rather than stifle economies, and the only change the Nu variant has brought so far is a flight ban from RSA and surrounding states. Any further restrictions are expected to be science-based and reluctantly imposed.

"The World Health Organisation (WHO) has cautioned countries against hastily imposing travel restrictions linked to the new variant of Covid-19, saying they should take a "risk-based and scientific approach"."

telegraph.co.uk/global-health/science-and-disease/covid-new-south-african-variant-strain-lockdown-restrictions/

johnny reb
26 Nov 2021  #8844

U.S. to restrict travel from South Africa, 7 other countries as new Covid variant emerges.
When Trump did that, they called him a racist.

mafketis
26 Nov 2021  #8845

a questionable source

Sajid Javid?

Bratwurst Boy
26 Nov 2021  #8846

and the only change the Nu variant has brought so far is a flight ban from RSA and surrounding states.

The WHO calls that new mutation now "Omicron".....

who.int/news/item/26-11-2021-classification-of-omicron-(b.1.1.529)-sars-cov-2-variant-of-concern

Classification of Omicron (B.1.1.529): SARS-CoV-2 Variant of Concern

jon357
26 Nov 2021  #8847

@mafketis
One that contains the term "variant histrionics'.

omicron

Omicron? I wonder why they skipped Nu. I read that they've classified it as a variant of concern rather than a variant of interest. This isn't good, and the effect on the stock exchange and on oil prices suggest that it's being taken seriously.

mafketis
26 Nov 2021  #8848

One that contains the term "variant histrionics'.

You mean the one who bases his arguments on official case numbers?

Bratwurst Boy
26 Nov 2021  #8849

Just an example....daily life....at a birthday party in Berlin 21 of 35 guests get infected....ALL have been vaccinated!

plus.tagesspiegel.de/berlin/wenn-2g-versagt-auf-einer-berliner-party-stecken-sich-21-von-35-gasten-an--alle-sind-geimpft-317980.html

So....nice people...smart people....logical people....who all did the right thing and followed the advice from all these experts in the gov and got themselves all the good vaccinations as demanded...and now?

They not only still carried the virus nonetheless they felt so safe that they made party with good conscience and transferred said virus to everybody and their grandmom and made them sick....

WOW! Vaccinations really will save us! And the mean, stupid anti-vaxxer (who wouldn't visit such a party in the first place because he knows he would get infected for sure) is of course to blame if it still doesn't work as advertised! Suuuure....

*takes helmet and leaves*

jon357
26 Nov 2021  #8850

You mean the one who bases his arguments on official case numbers?

No, I mean a polemicist on 'substack'.

Cynicism rarely helps in a developing crisis; and this one is developing. We'll know over the next fortnight if further restrictions are regrettably needed.


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