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Coronavirus in Poland



Korvinus
27 Nov 2021  #8881

But the lockdown wont happen here in Poland.

As log as PiS is in charge. PO though, through it's mouthpiece, a TVN, is pressing them for lockdowns, vaxxc passports, vax mandates, and whatnot.

PolAmKrakow
27 Nov 2021  #8882

@Korvinus
PO wont be in charge any time soon. PiS, doing things right with COVID the fifth time around. Really good election slogan.

Novichok
27 Nov 2021  #8883

5 more months to beach weather and the less stranded whales the better.

The first decent size post I wouldn't change a letter in. That's exactly how I feel: you ass, your problem, your vaccine, your mask, and your HAZMAT suit if it makes you feel better. You is editorial.

Hey, PAK, you do realize that you gave Tacitus a heart attack just now?

johnny reb
27 Nov 2021  #8884

So yes, it is about me

I know, that's why I said self-serving adulterated human beings.
That's why I call it the church of Me-ism because the people who attend are self-serving to worldly goods and desires.
You can only serve one Master.
Same with the Vaccine, it's all about choice so let's leave it there with our snide remarks.

Cargo pants
27 Nov 2021  #8885

I have tried for any info on Covid among the refugees on Belarus/Poland border,and not even 1 case reported.Now how is that possible?lol maybe lukeshenko is vaccinating them on arrival ar airport LOL.

mafketis
28 Nov 2021  #8886

today's numbers

28.7 % percent of 71,569 tests, higher percentage of positives or a function of less testing?

hospitalized: 20,067

ICU: 1816

daily deaths: 51 (45 with co-morbidities)

7 day average deaths: 315

Korvinus
28 Nov 2021  #8887

So far Omicron is only causing muscle pains and tiredness for 2 days:

sputniknews.com/20211127/south-african-medical-association-says-omicron-variant-causes-mild-disease-1091062923.html

No loss of smell or taste. It's not uncommon for viruses to get less lethal as they become more infectious. It seems that happens here.

But the fear mongering is getting out of hand in some places.
"Corona variant omicron: the horror becomes reality - new variant - the deadly corona scenario"
"Omicron variant: first corona case of the dangerous super-mutant in bavaria"
t-online.de/nachrichten/ausland/id_91217634/corona-variante-omikron-der-horror-wird-realitaet.html
infranken.de/ratgeber/gesundheit/coronavirus/corona-variante-b11529-omikron-variante-super-mutante-erster-fall-deutschland-art-5342802

If you read their ****** texts, there's _zero_ actual information about how dangerous / deadly the variant is. But hey, who gives a fu*ck.

Not every outlet writes shi*tty headlines like that, but even the mild ones contribute to absolutely unnecessary panic.

Bratwurst Boy
28 Nov 2021  #8888

But hey, who gives a fu*ck.

Not the "experts":

World Doctors chief Montgomery: 'Virus variant as dangerous as Ebola'! Shock statement of the top expert

androidkosmos.de/en/world-doctors-chief-montgomery-virus-variant-as-dangerous-as-ebola-shock-statement-of-the-top-expert/#

In case you ask....Montgomery is a German.....he became infamous already for saying anti-vaxxers need to feel the "whip" now!

The great fear of the new South African virus variant "Omikron" is here! Germany already stops flights abroad, the stock exchanges have fallen massively for fear of the virus. Now even world medical chief Montgomery shocks with this statement: "Virus variant as dangerous as Ebola!" ....

When you want to put a face onto that mishandled pandemia in Germany, take his! I'm not sure how many people will not take vaccinations only to show that horrible, arrogant man the finger, but it should be a lot, heh:)

johnny reb
28 Nov 2021  #8889

Follow the money..........
They pushed the first and second vaccine down our throats
Then came the booster
Now comes the next one

Pfizer said it can update its COVID-19 vaccine if the Omicron variant is found to be resistant to its current vaccine.
The company said it can update its current vaccine within 100 days. $$$$$$$$$$$
Pfizer expects to know within two weeks whether the variant is resistant
Step right up for your fourth "EXPERIMENTAL" vaccine within a year
Donate your body to Pfizer to collect data on you for free you guinea pigs
Nothing to see here
Baaaaa Baaaaa

cms neuf
28 Nov 2021  #8890

Well Britain already has its answer to the new variant - boosters for people aged 20-39 will be brought forward. Amazing how they got there so quickly with 48 hours of research.

mafketis
28 Nov 2021  #8891

Isn't it just a weird coincidence that they come up with this variant at the same time they start pushing more injections for more people?

It's a good thing no other healthcare is really needed now...

Novichok
28 Nov 2021  #8892

Hey, guys, I see you are turning into suspicious cynics like me. That's good. The thing is that it is not enough and you have to be able to justify it.

The jab yellow brick road would be simple to follow if we, the people, were forced to buy those jabs. But we are not - they are free to us. This means that the four jab-making companies conspired with some 100+ governments to get rich by forcing us to get jabbed or else. That conspiracy must include bribes the jab makers give the parasites (I mean government employees) to keep the jab scam going - along with masks and restrictions.

Add to this the fact that, as fake as they are, "democracies" still have "free" elections and that by now people have had it and they are not very happy - if the European riots are any indicator.

Bottom line: as much as hate the gov parasites, I don't see any money for them in this jabbing mess.

mafketis
28 Nov 2021  #8893

gov parasites, I don't see any money for them in this jabbing mess

you think they're diverting all that money to big Pharma..... for nothing?

western governments have gone all in on neoliberalism, which is about shutting down traditional government services (healthcare, education, security) and transferring public goods to the private sector (using any convenient talking points available).

one term I've seen for this new emerging model is the bio-security state (replacing the old nation state). now governments aren't interested in cultivating our labor (the reason for supplying services) they're interested in harvesting our bodies and managing us physically through drugging us up in various ways...

finding ever new reasons for more and more people to get injected is part of that.

it's not pretty but there's no competing explanation that fits the facts as well....

Bratwurst Boy
28 Nov 2021  #8894

If it's a big conspiracy it's not working well....or Germany (and assorted) wouldn't had such vaccine-problems....either getting them, jabbing the willing and especially convincing the unwilling.

That pandemia has shown how deep once super efficient Germany has fallen....we are more like a non-functional third world country by now.....one series of bumbling errors and misjudgements.

If it would be a REAL deep conspiracy everything would run much more smoother...we wouldn't even know about it!

Proof? Even if they would make the vaccine mandatory tomorrow who should take that seriously? Germany hasn't anymore the means to enforce that...it's a joke!

Novichok
28 Nov 2021  #8895

I still see the traditional model of corruption as the only one that makes any sense. It's based on three basic urges: for power, money, and sex - in that exact order. None of the above have even been suggested here as the driving force.

What you are saying would require worldwide conspiracy and planning with no chance of tell-all exposure. I am not saying that you are wrong. I just didn't reach that point as it requires the kind of brains and secrecy the top scum everywhere is not capable of.

you think they're diverting all that money to big Pharma..... for nothing?

No. There must be a reason. In my ultimate cynicism, I am still willing to accept that the fear of covid and being accused of "doing nothing while people die" is the driving force behind throwing billions at them in hope of producing the vaccine. The lockdowns and masks rules can be explained easily by the desire to show proactivity as bragging points before the next elections and raw power - the ultimate aphrodisiac.

Like I said, inside every top dog, there is a little Hitler looking for a window.

If it would be a REAL deep conspiracy everything would run much more smoother...

BB, I like your post.

Bratwurst Boy
28 Nov 2021  #8896

More than 25.000 people on the streets in Graz right now...even more across Austria....protesting the announced vaccine mandate starting in February.

It will be interesting to watch how Austria is handling the nay-sayers....if that government has any way to enforce it!

johnny reb
28 Nov 2021  #8897

...protesting the announced vaccine mandate starting in February.

Protesting the 'Mark of the Beast'.

cms neuf
28 Nov 2021  #8898

Yes, I don't believe in a conspiracy but there is a lot of old fashioned corruption - the huge legal margins on masks, tests etc and the amounts of taxpayers cash swilling around meant this was always going to be a great opportunity. In the west that will be "party funding" and in less developed countries it will be straightforward brown envelopes.

there are handful of industries that got so big that they could corrupt governments - finance in the Clinton years, Oil in the Bush years, Big Tech in the Obama era and now Big Vaccine will join them. They are not going to give up this scale of profits without a fight, and the same goes for the Covid industrial complex of testing, zoom and Skype, Amazon etc.

In an interesting side effect I read today in the FT that the world is running out of vodka bottles - as well as the sharp increase in at home alcohol use it seems the glass is being bought up by vial manufacturers !

mafketis
28 Nov 2021  #8899

If it's a big conspiracy

Not really a conspiracy... an agenda, that they're fairly open about....

More than 25.000 people on the streets in Graz right now.

Was there a couple of months ago.... nice to see them stand up!

how Austria is handling the nay-sayers...

...like the government?

twitter.com/MichaelPSenger/status/1464633526746112006

Novichok
28 Nov 2021  #8900

finance in the Clinton years, Oil in the Bush years, Big Tech in the Obama era and now Big Vaccine will join them.

True and so simple: that's how the American version of "democracy" works; our "elections" need plenty of cash.

European corruption may be different, though.

johnny reb
28 Nov 2021  #8901

On Saturday, Frank Ulrich Montgomery, chairman of the global physicians' society of the World Medical Association (WMA), told German reporters that he believes Omicron could become as dangerous as the Ebola virus.

Lockdowns are now starting again.

Novichok
28 Nov 2021  #8902

Why is it that the worst viral crap comes either from China or Africa? It must be those superior races, I guess.

mafketis
28 Nov 2021  #8903

I told y'all.... they'll come up with scaaaarrrryyyy new variants and obtuse excuses for vaccine failures for years. This is a new model that governing elites are very committed to.

jon357
28 Nov 2021  #8904

they'll come up

Viruses come up with variants. It's in their nature.

This is a new model that governing elites are very committed to.

Cheaper to make a tin foil hat.

mafketis
28 Nov 2021  #8905

It's in their nature.

It's not in their nature for so many in government to freak out so extremely about so minor a development as omicron.... unless the freaking out is the point.

Cheaper to make a tin foil hat.

What evidence do you have (that's not based on outdated 30 year old ideas) that they're not committed to keeping the lockdowns going?

jon357
28 Nov 2021  #8906

to freak out so extremely

To require a PCR test two days after arrival in the country?

to keeping the lockdowns going?

Do you have evidence that governments are committed to that? I see yours, mine and Poland's all trying very hard to avoid it.

mafketis
28 Nov 2021  #8907

Do you have evidence that governments are committed to that?

It's a hypothesis and the evidence doesn't especially contradict it. Not all governments are equally on board (Sweden especially, later maybe also Poland) but on the other hand hasn't the UK just introduced masking in school because of mighty omicron?

What's really interesting is not how the true believers have fallen in line and clamored for more lockdowns but how many people saw through the omicron BS so quickly. Early on the choice was made to treat covid as a moral panic... which cannot be maintained for more than about 18 months (give or take a few).

Miloslaw
28 Nov 2021  #8908

omicron

An anagram of moronic........ you just can't make this stuff up LOL!

mafketis
28 Nov 2021  #8909

An anagram of moronic.

I can't decide at this point if they ever really expected anyone (apart from governments) to take this seriously or not? They really sh@t the bed with this one. Could it be the the misstep that brings the whole edifice down on their unworthy heads?

jon357
28 Nov 2021  #8910

hasn't the UK just introduced masking in school

I hope so. Viruses and bacterial infections spread like wildfire in schools. Always have.

a moral panic...

Those develop on their own all too easily. Look at the Savile panic (clue: Sir Jimmy didn't do 99.9% of what he was posthumously accused of, but the lumpenproletariat need their demons and there are people of ill will ready to fuel the fire, especially online). If a moral panic has developed, it's to do with human paranoia, not a public health response to a crisis.


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