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Coronavirus in Poland



johnny reb
6 Dec 2021  #9151

Remember Rich, the E.U. doesn't have freedom of speech and you can be incarcerated for speaking the wrong way about government.
Besides, Liberals can't debate the facts.
LONDON (AP) - One of the scientists behind the Oxford-AstraZeneca COVID-19 vaccine is warning that the next pandemic may be more contagious and more lethal unless more $ money $ is devoted to research and preparations to fight emerging viral threats.

Read on for the best part......

The scientist who led the development of the Oxford University-AstraZeneca coronavirus vaccine is on course for a payday of £20m through a stock market listing.

Professor Sarah Gilbert owns just over 5% of a company she co-founded in 2016 called Vaccitech.
Now she is fearing mongering for more money to be "devoted to research".
Follow the money because a lot of people are getting rich off covid.

Tacitus
6 Dec 2021  #9152

Looks like Poland's are struggling to accomodate all those new patients, with some of them having to wait for hours until they receive proper care. Which I imagine is terrible for cases like strokes where time is of the essence.

notesfrompoland.com/2021/11/30/patients-wait-hours-for-ambulances-as-polish-hospitals-struggle-amid-covid-surge/

Korvinus
6 Dec 2021  #9153

The "Perfectly Healthy Young Person Dies of Covid" genre is probably my most favorite sub-genre of COVID fear pron, because in 90% of cases, this "perfectly healthy young person" was at least 30 kilos overweight, usually even more, which I guess is "healthy" according to modern medicine. And in the other 10% of cases, the "young healthy person" had some serious underlying chronic disease that the media outlet which is using said person's death to ramp up more fear pron suspiciously failed to disclose. Can't imagine why.

Miloslaw
6 Dec 2021  #9154

@Korvinus

And your point is?

Novichok
6 Dec 2021  #9155

Which I imagine is terrible for cases like strokes where time is of the essence.

If the choice is between stroke and unvaccinated-by-choice, stroke goes first.
I am glad to be in the country where I was on the operating table under anesthesia the day after I busted my little finger in the gym.

Hey, "America", I love you. I really do.

Spike31
7 Dec 2021  #9156

The truth about the "pandemic" in Poland

A hospital in Silesia:

37 total corona patients

18 "vaccinated"
19 unvacinnated

Intensive care:

4 "vaccinated"
2 unvaccinated

Apart from a "huge" number of patients - Silesia, as a whole, has more inhabitants than Warsaw - it also shows how effective are "vaccines"


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Novichok
7 Dec 2021  #9157

First, they tell us to get vaccinated. Then, like a bad mommy that promised ice cream, they tell us that they will treat the vaccinated as unvaccinated.

From thehill.com:

Previously, unvaccinated U.S. citizens had to receive a negative COVID-19 test the day before flights to the United States, while vaccinated citizens could test up to 72 hours prior to departure. Now all citizens, regardless of vaccination status, have to test a day before departure.

Same thing with those stupid dust shields. Vaccinated or not, got to wear 'em...

johnny reb
7 Dec 2021  #9158

I am I wrong or from the first, didn't they imply that if we got vaccinated we couldn't get covid ?

First, they tell us to get vaccinated.

And now they are telling us even if we have tested positive for covid to still get vaccinated.
And don't forget the push to jab healthy little kids that are more likely to drowned in a swimming pool than die from covid. !

Would someone please tell us the truth of just what in hell is going on.
All I can see is $$$$$$$ and control freaks.

mafketis
7 Dec 2021  #9159

today's numbers

20.4 % percent of 95,015 (good reduction for so many tests)

hospitalized :+826 to 23,604 (won't start really falling until percentage falls more)

ICU: + 47 to 2036

daily deaths: 504 (332 with co-morbidities)

7 day average deaths: 377 (no change)

johnny reb
7 Dec 2021  #9160

The Surgeon General Dr. Vivek Murthy declared Sunday that even those who are tripled jabbed will still have to wear masks indoors while around their families at Christmas.

This includes you and PolAm, Rich !
Hardly coming as a surprise in a world where the unvaccinated are now treated as subhuman scum, New York City announced it will require residents to be fully vaccinated to access indoor dining, entertainment and fitness.

And yes, the new rule also means that kids age 5-11 will also be required to have at least one jab to enter restaurants.

Novichok
7 Dec 2021  #9161

The Surgeon General Dr. Vivek Murthy declared ... will still have to wear masks ... around their families at Christmas.

Hey, Vivek, what I wear at home is none of your fu*cking business.

I know that trying to be logical with covid Gestapo is a wasted effort but I will try here.

Being one of the triple-vaccinated, I am (1) a spreader, or (2) I am not.

If (1), my vaccination status is relevant only to those who are affected if I get sick. That excludes airlines and restaurants, for example. They may demand masks, but not vaccinations.

If (2), I don't have to wear a mask.

So which one is it? 1 or 2?

Joker
7 Dec 2021  #9162

Hey, Vivek, what I wear at home is none of your fu*cking business.

He can kiss my dupa too. I see some idiot wearing a mask all alone in a middle of a park yesterday. I still cant understand why ppl drive around by themselves wearing a silly mask that does nothing either. They have to be 100% brainwashed leftards. As you get closer to Chicago you see more and more of them


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Bratwurst Boy
7 Dec 2021  #9163

Well...

Poland closes schools and announces compulsory vaccines for teachers, medics and uniformed services

notesfrompoland.com/2021/12/07/poland-closes-schools-and-announces-compulsory-vaccines-for-teachers-medics-and-uniformed-services/

Poland's government has announced new measures in response to a surge in coronavirus infections. Schools will return to remote learning, further restrictions will be placed on entry to certain venues, travellers from outside Schengen will have new testing requirements, and some professions will be obliged to vaccinate against COVID-19.

"Due to the worrying COVID-19 situation, we have decided to take decisive action," said health minister Adam Niedzielski this afternoon. Less than two weeks ago, Niedzielski dismissed the idea of introducing new restrictions, saying they are "not a very effective means of limiting the pandemic".....


Tacitus
7 Dec 2021  #9164

Schools will return to remote learning,

Kindergartens, schools and universities should be the last thing to be closed, but I am willing to bet that churches remain open, right?

mafketis
7 Dec 2021  #9165

in response to a surge in coronavirus infections

cases are not surging, the 7 day average of new cases has peaked and has plateaued for about a week now...

Kindergartens, schools and universities should be the last thing to be closed,

schools will be closed for a few days from dec 20 until january 9 (most of that time is vacation) universities are not affected...

the measures are pretty puny actually (and good)

PolAmKrakow
7 Dec 2021  #9166

@johnny reb
I will be wearing my mask as a thong when I get there JR. Still not going to gaf about the "rules" unless I am on plane or in airport. Poland introducing new restrictions starting the 15th on all indoor venues and testing now for when I return even though vaccinated. So if PiS is making these rules are they "right" or "left" now?

Bratwurst Boy
7 Dec 2021  #9167

Now that is interesting....(google translate)

focus.de/politik/deutschland/resolution-des-europarats-impfpflicht-rechtswidrig-gegner-berufen-sich-jetzt-auf-brisantes-papier_id_24491411.html

....Most citizens can imagine something under the European Parliament or the European Commission. But there is a European institution that is more of a shadowy existence. The Council of Europe. This body has existed since 1949. 47 European states belong to it, including all EU states. It describes itself as "Europe's leading human rights organization". Among other things, its parliamentary assembly adopts resolutions and makes legally non-binding demands on the member states.

One of these resolutions of January 27, 2021 has a rather sober title. "Covid-19 Vaccines: Ethical, Legal and Practical Considerations, Resolution 2361 (2021)" But the seven-page text about how to deal with the corona pandemic contains a sentence that is politically explosive. Paragraph 7.3.1 states that the Assembly "strongly" calls on the Member States and the European Union to "ensure that citizens are informed that vaccination is not mandatory and that no one is under political, social or other pressure, to be vaccinated if they do not wish to be".....


Novichok
7 Dec 2021  #9168

Well, on second thought, I'd rather not know.

You are a very wise man. If you change your mind, I will be happy to explain how AIDS can be transmitted in a restaurant - blow by blow and in living colors.

Back to covid. Would you like to explain why I have to wear a mask as I am walking in - only to take it off a minute later and keep it off while I am:

1. Talking
2. Sneezing
3. Coughing
4. Eating
...and put it back on on the way to the restroom and, later, on the way out.

I am sure you have "science" on your side so don't be shy and enlighten me, please.

Tacitus
7 Dec 2021  #9169

I will be happy to explain how AIDS can be transmitted in a restaurant

No explanation necessary. But having sex or exchanging blood is hardly something someone with a sound mind would do in a restaurant, thus it is hardly a risk in need of regulation.

why I have to wear a mask

In order to protect yourself and others? It may not be much, but every bit counts.

mafketis
7 Dec 2021  #9170

In order to protect yourself and others?

twitter.com/schraderism/status/1468213581384667144

Novichok
7 Dec 2021  #9171

@Tacitus
Did you read my post or are you just knee-jerk reacting to the word "mask"?

Being a person of unlimited patience, let me rephrase the question...

In the entire in-out restaurant cycle of one hour, I am required to wear a mask for a total of 30 seconds as I walk in. For the remaining 59 minutes and 30 seconds, I am not required.

1. Do you know why?
2. If you answered "yes" to the above, go to Step 3.
3. Why?

Tacitus
7 Dec 2021  #9172

Why?

I don't know why you developed the habit of asking questions that make you look as if you were unable to understand simple causalities. If you want to look like Socrates, you'll have to do better than this.

In order to protect yourself and others. Sure it would be more effective if one was required to wear a mask while being seated and waiting for food, but in the absence of this, it is still better than nothing. We are living in a pandemic in case you have not noticed.

mafketis
7 Dec 2021  #9173

unable to understand simple causalities

If masks are so effective... then how come they haven't worked anywhere?

Bratwurst Boy
7 Dec 2021  #9174

They are working....with me....I am the living proof!

I think you really need a good one....those with a ventil for example....I still didn't catch the virus till now...but then I don't feel the need to eat maskless in restaurants or something!

Tacitus
7 Dec 2021  #9175

They are also working on a greater scale, which has been pointed out numerous times in this thread alone.

mafketis
7 Dec 2021  #9176

also working on a greater scale

then why didn't they work in Germany?

Cojestdocholery
7 Dec 2021  #9177

I, for one, would rather get beheaded then vaxxed.

Doubt it is about vaccination.

If masks are so effective.

Mask are not the problem here. Is not a big deal if you talk only about masks. Even better, all that droplets from Sneezing and Coughing are somewhat contained.

Novichok
7 Dec 2021  #9178

Even better, all that droplets from Sneezing and Coughing are somewhat contained.

Why then when I am not a source of those deadly droplets am I required to wear it? In the last 24 months, I didn't sneeze or cough even once in a public place. Did you?

I don't know why you developed the habit

...of not reading my posts and playing stupid...

I am required to wear a mask for a total of 30 seconds as I walk in.

Why?

Korvinus
8 Dec 2021  #9179

And your point is?

Imagine thinking that COVID is what killed 5 million people and not ventilators, gun shots, the flu and all the other "comorbidities" that bumped up the tally.

Just got through hearing about another grieving widow whose husband got ventilatored as soon as he got to the hospital and died shortly thereafter.
Meanwhile, my elderly friends who either rejected the vent or didn't go to the hospital are all fine.

Let's ignore that even according according to courts

americasfrontlinedoctors.org/2/frontlinenews/lisbon-court-rules-only-0-9-of-verified-cases-died-of-covid-numbering-152-not-17000-claimed/

only about 1% of the "covid deaths" actually died from covid, that mortality is much higher this year with the vaxxes than last year ("pandemic!!") without the vaxxes, the claims by media that increased heart attacks are caused by "post-pandemic stress" or climate change, the constant collapses and even deaths of athletes, or that half of the vaccinated worldwide got the Chinese vaccine.

And congratulations on your Pfizer subscription for the rest of your life. I actually don't think that it will kill everyone, but who knows after the 5th, 6th or 7th dose of a mystery cocktail whose ingredients will stay secret for 55 years and that has been shown to suppress the immune system against other diseases.

mafketis
8 Dec 2021  #9180

today's numbers

24.8 % percent of 115,051 (most tests done in one day.... ever and still the percentage is under 25 % still peaking )

hospitalized :-151 to 23,453 (won't start really falling until percentage falls more)

ICU: -10 to 2026

daily deaths: 592 (404 with co-morbidities)

7 day average deaths: -2 to 375


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