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Coronavirus in Poland



johnny reb
8 Dec 2021  #9181

Experts in the UK say that an explosion in new heart illnesses in younger patients can be explained by a new condition called "post-pandemic stress disorder."

Glad to see the "experts" got that all figured out with that 'string of words' for the new 'disorder'. :-(

mafketis
8 Dec 2021  #9182

"post-pandemic stress disorder."

how much do the circles 'vaccinated with pfizer' and 'suffering from post-pandemic stress disorder' overlap?

PolAmKrakow
8 Dec 2021  #9183

@mafketis
Honestly I think the disorder could overlap circles and encompass even all the anti vax people. Anyone saying this has not been stressful is probably on social welfare and never leaves the house anyway.

Korvinus
8 Dec 2021  #9184

voluntary

Bratwurst Boy
8 Dec 2021  #9185

Did they shoot them?

johnny reb
8 Dec 2021  #9186

@PolAm
I see it in a different view and never said it wasn't stressful PolAm
It is the social butterflies that don't know how to entertain themselves without going to the Golden Coral every night to slop back fried food and booze are the ones having the meltdowns and stress when locked down.

probably on social welfare and never leaves the house anyway.

"Probably" is your key projection word to belittle and shame.
Take today, after getting 30 centimeters of snow last night, I will go out and wrestle my snowblower around for a couple of hours removing it out of my driveway so getting lots of fresh air and exercise while a social butterfly will pay someone to come plow them out with a truck so they can pay to go to the germ filled gym to exercise and be seen.

Hey PolAm, we got 12" of pow pow last night so the skiing is great.
I am on my way now for a couple of runs after I get the driveway cleaned out. :-)

PolAmKrakow
8 Dec 2021  #9187

@johnny reb
I will be at Nubs in 12 days.

Stressful is running a business and not laying people off when restrictions effect you or your customers. This has been the most stressful 20 months of my career honestly. So I can see how other people who may already have other issues could be deeply affected by this. I am not saying I totally believe in this "disorder" but it could be real, and like others then it would need to be treated. Then again in the Spanish flu days I dont recall reading about stress disorders after it subsided.

jon357
8 Dec 2021  #9188

his has been the most stressful 20 months of my career honestly.

The same. It's had a devastating effect and still has a way to go before it's fixed.

People will be feeling the effects of this for many years. Those covidiots who complain about the precautions taken to mitigate the problems or try to spread fear about the vaccines probably have very stress-free lives and have not experienced the worst of this.

Then again in the Spanish flu days I dont recall reading about stress disorders after it subsided.

Less media, fewer people talking about it. It doesn't mean the problems weren't there though.

Novichok
8 Dec 2021  #9189

Glad to see the "experts" got that all figured out with that 'string of words' for the new 'disorder'.

Since it's all "science", it was predictable and predicted with amazing accuracy. Plus, it took place in a democracy and, thus, with the consent of the people - those with heart problems included.

johnny reb
8 Dec 2021  #9190

It just temporarily confirms that the vaccine is not a factor in the increased problem.
The new condition called "post-pandemic stress disorder" cause will be because of the lockdowns and not because of the forced vaccine in anyway.
I feel safer now knowing the "experts" told us that...... so it has to be true, right ?

Novichok
8 Dec 2021  #9191

Those covidiots who complain about the precautions

OK, cogenius, since Tacitus can't, maybe you can explain why I have to wear a mask for 30 seconds while walking in and can keep it off for the next hour in a restaurant. A link to the source and the scientific basis of this rule would be appreciated.

jon357
8 Dec 2021  #9192

New 'restrictions' for the UK, just announced on TV by the Blond Bombshell. From Monday, people should work at home "if they can" and you need the NHS Covid Pass (or lateral flow test result) for nightclubs or venues with more than 500 people standing up (sounds like racecourses). Plus masks in theatres and cinemas.

Sounds practical enough and shouldn't make things difficult for people.

Bratwurst Boy
8 Dec 2021  #9193

for nightclubs or venues with more than 500 people standing up

No really....who in their right minds would want to? These people deserve all the infections they get.....but hey.....they are probably all vaccinated and hence belong to the "good" people!

mafketis
8 Dec 2021  #9194

New 'restrictions' for the UK

Announced in response to the big, scary variant that has caused no deaths yet?

Tacitus
8 Dec 2021  #9195

since Tacitus can't

I already explained to you that it is for your own protection and those of others. It might not make much of a difference, but everything counts when it can be applied with no cost to your and others.

jon357
8 Dec 2021  #9196

Announced in response to

The new variant which is still being analysed and appears to have a particularly high transmission rate.

who in their right minds would want to?

People enjoy going out. Personally I hate nightclubs and packed bars however economically, it's good that they stay open. If you fancy going out, just show your NHS Covid Pass (or the German version thereof) when you go, or a lateral flow result if that's possible where you are.

I'll be back there in a few days and don't plan to go to any major events, however the local racecourse is always fun. I'd not want to get covid there though; right now, it would stop me flying somewhere and that would truly **** up my career for the foreseeable. If people want to be selfish and think that their own wishes trump disease transmission within the community as a whole, they should remember that actually getting it can cause a huge impact on some people's lives.

Novichok
8 Dec 2021  #9197

Plus masks in theatres and cinemas.

Can I take it off when I am going #2?

scary variant that has caused no deaths yet?

You didn't define "yet". In 100 years, we all will be dead so it's not true what you wrote.

Bratwurst Boy
8 Dec 2021  #9198

People enjoy going out.

....they can do so without forcing others who don't frequent virus-infested places to get vaccinated!

jon357
8 Dec 2021  #9199

@Bratwurst Boy
And they have.

You can just show a lateral flow test if you want to be in a packed nightclub dancing to Boney M or Schlager or Kraftwerk whatever music people from Germany like nowadays.

For myself, I just go to quietish pubs anyway, and in any case am fully vaccinated, healthy and follow whatever guidelines there are.

Novichok
8 Dec 2021  #9200

I am still not sure who I hate more...Covid Gestapos or the obedient...I mean the morons who comply over and above what the Gestapo demands.

Spike31
8 Dec 2021  #9201

"Preliminary laboratory studies demonstrate that three doses of the Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 Vaccine neutralize the Omicron variant"

Prepare your bottoms for the 3rd dose. And all the upcoming doses for "new variants" for the rest of your life.

It's a great business model, and it's risk-free [for pharmaceutical companies] since you're not entitled to any financial compensations from med companies for side effects from jabs.

pfizer.com/news/press-release/press-release-detail/pfizer-and-biontech-provide-update-omicron-variant

Dirk diggler
8 Dec 2021  #9202

And all the upcoming doses for "new variants" for the rest of your life.

Like I said before, at least with the Pfizer club card you get a free toaster after your 12 booster

Covid Gestapos or the obedient

For me its the latter, because it makes it all the more difficult for other people to resist the Covid Gestapo. We may be in the minority, but there's still tens of millions of us in North America and Europe.

your own protection and those of others

1) People can decide for themselves what they want as protection, how to manage their healthcare, etc.

2) Other people really dgaf about me, you or anyone else unless they have a reason to. If someone is saying that they got vaccinated because they care about the community (as opposed to say their own health or because an elderly person lives with them) they're being a self-righteous liar.

jon357
8 Dec 2021  #9203

It's a great business model,

It costs the NHS money. Your vaccinations were free to you.

mafketis
8 Dec 2021  #9204

"Preliminary laboratory studies demonstrate that three doses of the Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 Vaccine neutralize the Omicron variant"

I actually think they're talking about three doses of a new vaccine after you've been 'boosted' with the old, crappy vaccine.

It costs the NHS money. Your vaccinations were free to you.

And where does the NHS get money from? Every pound spent on vaccinations and testing is a pound not spent on other healthcare (unless their budget was massively increased.... was it massively increased?)

jon357
8 Dec 2021  #9205

And where does the NHS get money from?

Everyone. We share it.

a pound not spent on other healthcare

Like ICUs full of ventilated Covid patients?

Korvinus
8 Dec 2021  #9206

By next summer the percentage of unvaxxed in most Western countries will be bigger than now, because people with 2 doses (or 1 J&J) will be considered unvaxxed again.

Out of curiosity, is there any number of lifetime Covid vaccine doses at which you'll say: "OK that's enough, no more jabs for me"? 2, 5, 10? If not, any particular frequency? Every 24 months, 12, 6, 3? Say you are banned from restaurants and flights unless you get 2 jabs per year (antigen test not allowed as an alternative)? OK or not?

Is there any particular moment in time where you think people won't need to keep >3 metres distance from their fellow humans and wear FFP2 masks anymore? In 2 years, 5, 10? Or just whenever the WHO declares the pandemic over?

Novichok
8 Dec 2021  #9207

It might not make much of a difference,

Is there a rule so insane that you would say this rule is insane? Can you name one that is insane? How about not allowing us to play tennis go boating out in the open? Was that rule good, too, because it might help? I have to reduce my life to the house arrest level because some moron bureaucrat pulled something out of his ass. Is this how you see the world?

According to you, I must wear a mask as I am walking to the table, and, once seated, I can take that mask off for the rest of my stay because it mighthelp.

Tell me with a straight face that those 30 masked seconds make a difference. You can't but as a typical obedient follower, you make those crappy statements just to support the "authority".

It might not make much of a difference

There are a thousand things that "might not make much of a difference" and that's why I don't want even to hear about them. Putting that idiotic mask on for those 30 seconds is one of them.

Do you ever say words with "p" as the first letter? Do you know that "p" makes you spit more than any other letter? And that a spit carries the virus that kills? Therefore, your "p's" kill. Consider it next you speak to anyone.

"OK that's enough, no more jabs for me"? 2, 5, 10?

This is exactly my way of thinking and debating: always demand numbers as the best way to flush out bullsh*it and bullsh*itters.

Like why not 7 feet? How about 10?

jon357
8 Dec 2021  #9208

Say you are banned from restaurants and flights unless you get 2 jabs per year (antigen test not allowed as an alternative)? OK or not?

Very OK, since covidiots who won't take precautions to protect the most vulnerable in society have taken a conscious choice not to participate in society. Let them fester at home and read conspiracy theories (how are your 'nanobots' and 'unknown life forms' doing?) , while the rest of us get on with things.

Dirk diggler
8 Dec 2021  #9209

is there any number of lifetime Covid vaccine doses at which you'll say: "OK that's enough, no more jabs for me"? 2, 5, 10?

Probably not. Maybe once a total control grid has been established. This whole covid thing is nothing more than social engineering. No one in government cares whether people are dying let alone healthy. They just pretend. If they really cared about peoples' health then they'd address all the things that kill far more people than covid - heart disease (#1 cause of death in the USA), diabetes, lung cancer, influenza/pneumonia (another top 10 leading cause of death) etc.

We went from 2 shots is all you need for the rest of your life, to 2 shots + 1 booster, to boosters every 6 months, to now increasing that even further - UK is doing booster every 3 months.

Pharma companies are already coming out with covid vaxx pills. It wouldn't surprise me if they're marketed to be taken daily.

Every pound spent on vaccinations and testing is a pound not spent on other healthcare

Facts.

Say you are banned from restaurants and flights unless you get 2 jabs per year (antigen test not allowed as an alternative)

Not everyone is going to abide by it. Some countries are totally ignoring this whole vaxx with infinite boosters/vaxx passport/etc. regime. And strangely enough they have some of the lowest per capita cases/deaths...

Novichok
9 Dec 2021  #9210

Very OK, since covidiots who won't take precautions to protect the most vulnerable

Covidiots are those who tell the passengers - all vaccinated - to put those covidiotic masks on.
Try to explain that...Or this:

And strangely enough they have some of the lowest per capita cases/deaths...



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