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Coronavirus in Poland



Dirk diggler
9 Dec 2021  #9211

@Novichok

It doesn't fit their narrative so they ignore it. Look at Japan for example - they have the same amount of cases today when 70% of the population is vaxxed as early 2020 when there were no vaccines on the market yet. And even the 30% that isn't unvaxxed their total cases are in the low hundreds with a single death occuring daily or every other day. Plus, Japan is a very densely populated country.

It's a similar situation in sub-Saharan Africa - vaxx rates remain low as do covid cases.. Botswana - 20% of the people vaxxed yet they'll have caseloads in the low hundreds or even less, some days they don't report any new cases. In Congo, less than 1% is fully vaccinated and again cases are super low - having 300 new cases is considered a spike. This is a country with 90 million people and one of the poorest thus poor sanitation, medical care, etc... Somalia has under 4% of the population vaccinated... no new cases over the past few days and they peaked a few months ago with 260 cases out of 15 million people.

But of course that's never talked about...

Novichok
9 Dec 2021  #9212

But of course that's never talked about...

I was the only one that brought this weirdness up here earlier.
There is some form of natural justice in the fact that the biggest as*holes - the Western "democracies" - suffered the same covid deaths rates as the more primitive countries like the Baltics. All that money, advanced medical care, lockdowns, and "awareness" didn't buy the US, Belgium, and Italy much.

My best explanation is that we don't inhale nature air. We inhale what some machines in the airtight building circulate through ducts full of crap that crawls with the things we don't want to see.

Dirk diggler
9 Dec 2021  #9213

All that money, advanced medical care, lockdowns, and "awareness"

And meanwhile covid has barely touched Africa... There's no talk every minute of the day about masks, vaccines, vaccine mandates/passports, etc.

I found out today that some countries in Europe won't allow you to fly in if you're not vaxxed specifically Germany and Switzerland but I'm sure there's more (there is an exemption though for EU residents). I wonder if they scrutinize the migrants flooding in like they do people coming from the USA.

Thankfully, Poland isn't among them. They're actually quite lax in terms of people coming in but if you're not vaxxed you have to quarantine for 7 days... no big deal..

Novichok
9 Dec 2021  #9214

And meanwhile covid has barely touched Africa...

Shunning Africa is racist. Bad virus.

won't allow you to fly in if you're not vaxxed

...but they still demand that you wear that stupid mask.
Since this forum has some covid sheep, I am patiently waiting for an explanation why.
Hey, sheep, if you decide to enlighten me, please make sure it's based on science, not you WAGs, fear, or what they preach in the Church of Safetism.

Dirk diggler
9 Dec 2021  #9215

I am patiently waiting for an explanation why.

Because it turns out that the vaccine isn't nearly as effective (or safe) as marketed and promoted hence all the precautions, constant boosters, etc.

Example - reddit.com/r/CoronavirusOC/comments/lhqzz7/2nd_dose_of_moderna_how_are_you_feeling/

Some guys ended up in the ER...

"why didn't they told us these side effects on the TV news. I should've known about these, before taking those vaccines. thats why you can't blame those antivaxer's fears."

My coworker ended up with bell's palsy. He was holding his lips just to barely talk. It took him months to get over.

Like I said, you gotta be your own advocate in healthcare. There's nothing wrong with being selfish at times.

Braveheart16
9 Dec 2021  #9216

Dirk diggler - Thankfully, Poland isn't among them. They're actually quite lax in terms of people coming in....

I agree with you on this....a friend recently travelled to France from Poland and at the airport the Polish security didn't have any scanners/failed to use their phones to scan the Covid QR code to check their status....all they did was to look at the date on the back of the paper certificate and waved my friend through.....whereas in France they had strict procedures using equipment to scan QR codes etc (the same procedure applies to entering restaurants etc)

If this is common practice at Polish airports then this is clearly a weak point and anyone could deceive them with fake certificates etc.....On their return my friend experienced the same lax treatment....not a great way to prevent the spreading of Covid.

PolAmKrakow
9 Dec 2021  #9217

@Braveheart16
Flying within the EU is pretty loose everywhere. Spain, Czech, Slovakia, all pretty loose with checking documents. If you got your jab in USA almost nothing they can do. Cant be scanned or uploaded anywhere for verification, same with jabs from Canada. Definitely not an air tight system.

mafketis
9 Dec 2021  #9218

today's numbers

24.6 % percent of 111,604 (the percentage is under 25 % still peaking )

hospitalized :-20 to 23,433 (first two day decline in a while)

ICU: +27 to 2053

daily deaths: 562 (397 with co-morbidities)

7 day average deaths: +2 to 377

Novichok
9 Dec 2021  #9219

There's nothing wrong with being selfish at times.

Not only it is not wrong but it is the first thing in survival. That's why they tell you to put your mask on first and before your kid when the plane is in distress.

johnny reb
9 Dec 2021  #9220

Because it turns out that the vaccine isn't nearly as effective (or safe) as marketed and promoted

The Food and Drug Administration is asking a judge to give it 75 years to produce data concerning the Pfizer and BioNTech vaccine, up 20 years from a previous request. (Until 2096 !)

The agency, known as the FDA, told the court it can't work faster than its previously proposed 500-pages-per-month-rate. lol
But it also said there are over 59,000 more pages than mentioned in an earlier filing.
75 years to determine the after effects of the Pfizer shots or a total life time of every individual who has been used as Guinee pigs at free of charge to Pfizer.

If you find that difficult to believe, that is because the sheep live in a place where people lead dehumanized and often fearful lives for the government to give Pfizer billions, mandate Americans to take its product, prohibit Americans from suing for harms, but yet refuse to let Americans see the data underlying its licensure

Nothing to see here.........Baaaa Baaaa Baaaa !

Novichok
9 Dec 2021  #9221

Nothing to see here.........Baaaa Baaaa Baaaa !

Do you do realize how upsetting that post is to the PF wooly herd? I mean, how can you be so cruel and present them with undeniable facts?

johnny reb
9 Dec 2021  #9222

I learned it from you, Rich. :-)
Where did they all go ?
Here's one for your Brit Buddies.....
A major morning television show in the UK deleted a Twitter poll asking if vaccines should be made mandatory after the results showed that 89% of respondents oppose compulsory shots.

Yes, really joun.
Good Morning Britain, which often tries to set the news agenda, posted the poll which asked the public, "With Omicron cases doubling every two days, is it time to make vaccines mandatory ?"

The last screenshots Twitter users were able to obtain before the poll was wiped off showed 89% oppose mandatory vaccinations, with just 11% in favor after a total of over 42,000 votes.

Nothing to see here....literally. lol

jon357
9 Dec 2021  #9223

and at the airport the Polish security didn't have any scanners/failed to use their phones to scan the Covid QR code to check their status

They didn't scan mine either; they just looked at it.

jon357
9 Dec 2021  #9224

Aga MikoĊ‚aj (a very well-known Polish opera singer) has just died from Covid. She was only 50.

Aga Mikolaj, Polish soprano noted for her energy and vitality - obituary

telegraph.co.uk/obituaries/2021/12/08/aga-mikolaj-polish-soprano-noted-energy-vitality-obituary/

Novichok
9 Dec 2021  #9225

89% oppose mandatory vaccinations, with just 11% in favor

And the PF posts copy the same ratio of the baaa's to the GFY's.

From: metro.co.uk/2021/12/09/600000-rsvp-for-downing-street-rave-after-christmas-party-scandal-15743292/

There is widespread public anger at Boris Johnson after further evidence emerged that gatherings took place at a time when the government was imposing lockdown restrictions on people.

OK, boys and girls, let me tell you something about communism, the privileged class, and their special stores...

And now something more current: It's the US Constitution and how we, Americans, feel about it as expressed by a reader of the above:

I live in the free state of Florida (Miami Beach) USA. We have our freedoms through God, our constitution, and the next President of the US Governor Ron DeSantis. Stand up and no longer be sheep!

Cojestdocholery
9 Dec 2021  #9226

it seems our rules are going towards coercive vaaccinations like in Austria. Good people are rebelling there.

jon357
9 Dec 2021  #9227

It looks like the new U.K. measures may not go through parliament. Quite a few members of the ruling party are opposed and it will depend on support from the opposition.

In Poland, as far as I k ow they don't need to g9 through the Sejm, and we can expect some changes over the next few weeks.

Novichok
9 Dec 2021  #9228

It looks like the new U.K. measures may not go through parliament.

We have the BBC to supply this information. Please, don't try to be a reporter. There is plenty of them out there already.
From you, we would like to get your opinion.

johnny reb
9 Dec 2021  #9229

Israeli Health Official tells public to prepare for endless boosters.
Health Ministry vaccination advisory committee member and deputy chief of Israel's biggest hospital Professor Arnon Afek is telling the public to prepare not only to take their fourth "booster" shot but also their fifth, sixth and seventh.

It just doesn't stop with the innocent being used by Pfizer like lab rats.
The Vietnamese province of Thanh Hoa has suspended the use of a Pfizer Covid-19 vaccine batch after over 120 students were hospitalized following their inoculation.
Today Bill gates came out and said that covid will end in 2022.
No Bill, as long as your cronies are raking in the $$$$ it will never end.
I can only imagine what you bastards are going to turn loose next to depopulate with.

Novichok
9 Dec 2021  #9230

Israeli Health Official tells public to prepare for endless boosters.

There goes my bubble: if in doubt check with the Israelis.

No Bill, as long as your cronies are raking in the $$$$ it will never end.

Are you trying to out cynic me? Got to crank it up...

jon357
9 Dec 2021  #9231

And now a 2.5 day doubling time for infections, a million cases expected in the UK and doubtless similar here in Poland though less transparent figures.

mafketis
9 Dec 2021  #9232

now a 2.5 day doubling time for infections

I hope so.... they've been promising exponential growth for almost two years.... and what? simple waves....

In other great news over 90% of those hospitalized with omicron in SAfrica were.... not. They were in with something else and also tested positive.

But let's not let that stop governments from acting like salesmen on commission with an MLM scheme.... pusing more and more injections of...... what exactly?

uspended the use of a Pfizer Covid-19 vaccine batch after over 120 students were hospitalized

I halfway think that most of the vaccines are just placebos and some batches are various kinds of experimental things that they track... I wonder what the experiment behind that batch was....

jon357
9 Dec 2021  #9233

they

Always 'they'.

When the reality is that elected officials and their SPADs can barely keep up with change at the best of times, and scientists have to do it the rigorous way, burning midnight oil in the lab, one issue at a time.

various kinds of experimental thing

Maybe they injected you with an alien life form, scraped off a tissue found in the video room of a crashed UFO.

mafketis
9 Dec 2021  #9234

Maybe they injected you with an alien life form

That would explain.... so much.... so very much....

Meanwhile you should check out this guy, a welcome break from media hysteria (cautious at times but never hysterical in any direction)

youtube.com/watch?v=5E6gpPJwYIY

especially look at around 9.00.....

And if the timing weren't so off (beginning shortly after the 11th of november) I'd almost think my case was omicron (no trouble breathing, no consistent cough, headaches and muscle aches for a couple of days) but then no real fatigue either.... so....

Novichok
9 Dec 2021  #9235

I hope so.... they've been promising exponential growth for almost two years...

...to scare the crap out of us while hoping we will never get there to be able to exhale...finally...

The covid swamp and their apologists everywhere have this problem with "cases": Low numbers = hey, nothing to it, and likely it won't be me. High numbers = that's it? The scary boogie man is not that as scary as we were told. Time to party!

That's why the panic peddlers love "case" numbers to be in between. Not too low and not too high, either.

jon357
9 Dec 2021  #9236

watch?v=5E6gpPJwYIY

Interesting video. The guy has my accent!

At least he thinks the UK gov't and other gov'ts actions are currently justified. And that the tests are working. I googled him, and am pleased to see he's described the AstraZeneca vaccine as safe.

Novichok
9 Dec 2021  #9237

At least he thinks the UK gov't and other gov'ts actions are currently justified.

Can you name a covid gov't action that was not or is not justified?

jon357
9 Dec 2021  #9238

I'd almost think my case was omicron

There are supposedly no cases yet here in PL, however there obviously are some. The rate it spreads is a surprise however yes, the symptoms of this variant do seem mild.

Novichok
10 Dec 2021  #9239

If the symptoms are mild, why would anybody care how fast it spreads?

jon357
10 Dec 2021  #9240

Isn't it obvious to you? It is to everybody else.

Viruses mutate. The more they spread, the more hosts there are for the virus. The more hosts, the more mutations appear. The more mutations, the greater the likelihood that one will be very far from mild.

Now stop asking pointless and stupid questions for the sake of it that you could have just googled.


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