Coronavirus in Poland

Brilliant. The first person you don't trust is yourself before others will make you look like a fool.

Let's add "93% of the scientists agree" to pseudoscience.

I don't have "Religion", I have a "Relationship" with Jesus Christ, big difference.


As I pointed out in post #9295 the lies we have been told by the scientists and their science concerning Covid.
I even gave you sources that quoted them lying.


And I don't trust all the scientists about their science on Covid especially how they have admitted to lying about many things about it.

I provided those source in post #9295 also.
No one is denying that opinions are not science, but you are denying that we were made to believe by scientists and their science that the vaccine would prevent us from getting Covid.

You keep shying away from that fact.

Of course, now your scientists have moved the goal posts.

@johnny reb
You really dont get it. When I read a scientific data sheet, the science and numbers are what I read. I dont care about anything else. I am smart enough to figure things out on my own. I dont need anyone's opinion on what is or is not a lie. Truths are what we find as individuals without the opinions of others. What you find as truth I do not see as truth based on what I read independently. You find truth in the bible, I do not find truths but I do find great reading with interesting stories based on real life characters that lived in the past. Other than that I find nothing miraculous or divine in a book. People can be miraculous or divine without being holy. Yes, I know that offends some, and again I dont care.

What I get is that you said, "Nobody said the vaccine would stop you from getting Covid".
I proved you wrong and now you want to do a re-direct about science, religion and about how you don't care.
Well I don't care that you refuse to get that. :-)

@johnny reb
No. You used preliminary opinion before final results were in to try to prove a statement. When the application for emergency use was made, the statement was that this was not a cure but would reduce hospitalizations and deaths. That is what happened when the science was done. Not before the science was complete. There is consistency in the science and in the facts, not in the opinions of people who did not participate in the science.

B.S. PolAm,
You stated that no one ever said the vaccine would prevent Covid.
I showed you several examples where people most certainly DID say it would prevented Covid.
You were wrong, the Reb was right.
Now go down to the Golden Coral and have one on me.

today's numbers

22.7 % percent of 50,202 (back to a lower rate...)

hospitalized : +407 to 24,051

ICU: +10 to 2152

daily deaths: 29 (28 with co-morbidities)

7 day average deaths: +2 to 400

This book is food for thought for the sheep.
"The Real Fauci: Bill Gates, Big Pharma, and the Global War on Democracy and Public Health", by RFK Jr. who has made it very clear that he will not allow Orwell's 1984 totalitarian boot to stamp on his face.

He is not pulling his punches with language as he accuses the political-intelligence-media-money-medical-corporate-pharmaceutical conspirators of executing "the controlled demolition of American constitutional democracy."
For anyone who doubts that the Covid-19 crisis is an intelligence run operation controlled by spooks working with medical technocrats like Anthony Fauci, billionaires such as Bill Gates, the military, media, Big Pharma, the World Economic Forum, etc., a close reading of this book with its 2,194 references will enlighten the sheep.

Nearly 590,089 people over 65 have died from COVID-19 since the start of the pandemic, CDC data shows.
The data shows that about 1 in every 100 Americans over 65 have died from COVID-19.
They are slowly getting rid of us old useless people that pay very little in taxes to them and drain the healthcare system.

A report from the United Kingdom of the first patient to die from an infection of the Omicron variant.

Giving no information on state of health (or what precise role, if any omicron played in his death) or age.... clear ploy to make people afraid.

This twitter feed exposes a lot of ..... purposeful falsehoods being spread in the UK media.... worth following.

twitter.com/statsjamie

There were questions in Parliament today about that, so no 'cover up'.

And at least they're taking the booster seriously I'll get mine in a couple of weeks when I'm back.


He mentions breakfast TV which is just noise really. The real stats are completely transparent.

Were there answers? And what were they?


And not especially alarming...

Alarming enough to worry the hospitals which are (countrywide) 89% full according to your stats guy.

Would you take the pandemic less seriously?

Have you had your booster yet?

How full are they usually at this time of year?


Not planning on it. I've recovered from covid and I'm not a vaccine junkie.

Nothing like as full.


You may well need it for the covid pass, and of course the booster does provide added protection.

two shots = crap but then the booster of the same ineffective shot protects you? And you believe this? how gullible are you?

omicron so far looks like a failed advertising campaign


now wer'e getting to the whole point of these silly games - to impose a level of intrusive surveillance on the population.... forever (or have they announced plans to dump the surveillance once the pandemic is over?

Yes, it boosts immunity.

And so far I'm happy to have avoided Covid.


Isn't that the last thing the NHS want to do?

Your belief is... almost charming.

Now.... considering that Pfizer doses cost less than a pound to make and are sold to the British government for over 20 pounds.... what motivation do they have to shorten the pandemic or declare that their 3 - vaccine isn't that effective?

Omicron certainly seems to be a milder variant of the virus and far less likely to land you in hospital regardless of existing state of health.

today's numbers

18.6 % percent of 93,798 (significant drop in percentage with a lot of tests, the peak is over and the fall is starting)

hospitalized : +491 to 24,542 (hosptialization will fall only after the percentage peak gets going)

ICU: -20 to 2132 (same with ICU)

daily deaths: 537 (386 with co-morbidities)

7 day average deaths: +1 to 401

Shares of Arena Pharmaceuticals have doubled in price in premarket trading after Pfizer announced that it had struck a deal to acquire its smaller rival for $100/share in a deal that values the San Deigo-based Arena at $6.7 billion. Pfizer believes it can finance the deal with cash on hand, and thanks to covid, it sure can.

Follow the money. :-(

Kroger will stop paid emergency leave for unvaccinated workers.
It said in a memo those workers will no longer get two weeks paid leave if infected with COVID-19.
What about those who have been jabbed get infected ?
Do they get paid double ?
It is also adding a $50-per-month charge to some unvaccinated employees' health plans.
Discrimination at it's finest.

Part of why they're so weirdly and creepily insistent on injecting people....

"UK government has bought 650 million vaccines. ..... Vaccines are a product that need to be sold.Governments are the salesmen"

source: if anyone has different information on how many doses were purchased, please let me know.

twitter.com/danfrankcar

@mafketis
Are the "customers" those getting the jab having to pay the government? Not in Poland. So please tell me how the government benefits other than by keeping more people alive an paying taxes while keeping hospitals from over flowing?

ever hear of a little thing called.... taxes?


Pfizer's donating all those doses to Poland? Who knew?


Neoliberalism is not about lassez faire, it's about the government actively interfering in the market to benefit some private actors (see Mirowski). More and more governments are about servicing the private sector and disregarding the needs of the citizenry (written about by a whole bunch of people)

They're making big pharma happy and that's what really counts...

@mafketis
Mare taxes are paid by the people not dying than by the corporations. Sure they profit. They will always profit and there will always be a new medicine. timing was just right and panic spread by the press was perfect after they learned how to spread it dealing with Trump.

Poland is printing money, but the jabs are bought by the EU aren't they? All those VAT payments going to the corporations. And I still don't care. This is about me and my family, not politics or big pharma. If I could find a way to profit on this I would. Anyone with half a brain would try to.

Trump was the one that got the vaccine developed at warp speed to calm the panic.
And also remember who paid for all the research and development of the covid vaccine.
Problem is now that America doesn't have a president.

The total mortality rate for covid has never been above 3%... (mostly among the very old who no longer contribute to the economy anyway).

The capital class no longer wants labor from the working class they want us as.... raw biological material.


How many people would you kill for one million dollars? How many children's lives would you ruin through lockdowns?

@johnny reb
And why isn't Trump blamed for all the microchips, nanobots, life forms and DNA altering vaccines? Its all really comical to look at really. The mass paranoia is amazing.

@mafketis
No one needs to kill for a million dollars. That's not much money in todays world and wouldn't motivate me to do anything.

The real problem is people who love pumping this bullshit that some call news, and the people that watch it or pay attention to it. All of this overreaction is completely out of proportion. And every single bit of it goes back to governments not being prepared around the world. Period, nothing more.

If this were a military operation it would be a lot more efficient even if from the bumbling idiots in Afghanistan. The extremism on both sides is really pitiful honestly.

Then why aren't they looking for an off ramp? There have been several times when they could declare victory and stop the whole farce, instead they keep pushing it in more and more absurd ways. Why do you think that is?

Trouble is, the vaccine is not safe. And whether you can get through a vaccination with minimum damage depends on a plethora of factors (mostly luck because even healthy young people aren't safe). Some get through it without even having noticed it, others die a horrible death. Point is, you never know how it affects you. Refusing the vaccine is the only way out of that uncertainty.

Two years without any vaxx in this deadly pandemic, and definitely in contact with the unwashed covid infected masses. (And without a mask).
Oh how am I still alive in this deadly global pandemic?
Did I mention it is deadly?